ELEVENTH DIALOGUE

January 5, 1999

Peter: I have a confession to make. As you know, I didn’t record anything that occurred yesterday during our early morning dialog. It feels very funny to me, as though I didn’t do anything useful but was wasting my time on all kinds of typical human errands and similar things.

The Lord Jesus Christ: It is understandable, Peter. However, you shouldn’t feel that way because you do have a responsibility and duty to also take care of your most external and typical human affairs. Don’t be surprised if having such times out happens more frequently than you would like. Sometimes, it will be days, or weeks or even months when you won’t be recording anything. Should anything like that happen, it will only mean that some other type of work, as important as recording our dialogs, needs to be taken care of, either in your typical external human life or on some other levels of being and existence or pseudo-being and pseudo-existence. Also, don’t forget that you will need to travel in order to visit My people on planet Zero, both in the United States and abroad. Don’t underestimate the face to face contact with them. Being who you are and what you represent from Me on planet Zero, such face to face contact may trigger something important in them. Because of that, by your presence with them, they will be able to come up with questions for which you will help them get proper and correct answers without violating their freedom of choice. Again, don’t underestimate the important process of asking questions and enabling them, by your face to face presence, to get their own answers. On the other hand, their questions could very well have a multiversal significance that needs to be answered through dialoging with Me and subsequently recorded by you for the benefit of all everywhere. The potency and power of face to face contact can be very pronounced and significant. You don’t get such an all- inclusive impact from letters or telephone conversations as with face to face contact because they are too impersonal, remote and cold. This is one of the reasons why you have so much aversion toward talking with people on the phone. Believe Me, it is not the same as talking with them face to face. So, prepare yourself for such possibilities in the near future.

Peter: I understand; and I am humbly asking You to help me to avoid such funny feelings when the recording of our dialogs does not occur for a longer period of time. Also, as to the issue of the financial needs related to these travels. As You know, I have retired and My personal income has dropped by more than 50%. And yet, the expenses of living here are the same.

The Lord Jesus Christ: I can assure you, Peter, that these things will be taken care of. As you know, My people in the Czech and Slovak Republics are already thinking of paying your airplane tickets for your important visits with them. And in the past, Lyudmila and her family in Moscow, Russia did the same thing either partially or completely.

Peter: I very much hope that it will never come to that point and that some other means are provided to take care of this issue. The last thing I want in my life is to be a financial burden on someone else.

The Lord Jesus Christ: However, Peter, if it were to come to that, it would only mean that it is spiritually appropriate for that to happen. Don’t take the opportunity from My people to also serve Me in this manner. It could have some important spiritual significance for them, as well as for everyone else as well, — to do that.

Peter: I understand. But I still hope that it will not happen that way. However, forgive me for bringing up this kind of personal matter to Your attention.

The Lord Jesus Christ: It is very appropriate for you, as well as for anyone else, to bring such things to My attention. Again, don’t forget that even things like that have some important spiritual correspondences. Therefore, it is never by coincidence that you feel like bringing them to My attention. As you know so well, everything, without any exceptions or exclusions, always has spiritual roots.

Peter: In that case, let me bring my first question to Your attention. As you know, one of the members of my spiritual family represents the important spiritual fact that You, my beloved Lord Jesus Christ, manifest Yourself to Your Creation and to the Zone of Displacement in infinite varieties, manners and ways. How does this important factor take into consideration Your human body and its nature, which You acquired on planet Zero and took with You after Your resurrection and which became a major catalyst in Your acquiring Your absolutely New Absolute Nature?

The Lord Jesus Christ: As you know, Peter, the human body and human nature represent something that doesn’t exist anywhere in My Creation or even in the Zone of Displacement. Their spiritual correspondence, among many other things, is tangibility and solidity, so- to-speak. In other words, it provided Me with the ability to experience life as humans do. However, the most important factor in this respect is that it makes it possible for relative beings to have a very private, personal and intimate relationship with Me. Through that body and the human nature, I can be touched, felt, hugged, held, kissed, etc. I am no longer a remote, incomprehensible, unapproachable, non-understandable and non-tangible Being who resides somewhere out there where not one living and breathing being can enter. I am able to come to your level, to the level of all, and communicate with everyone on an equal footing, to use your figure of speech.

Peter: But couldn’t You have acquired such a tangible body and its nature somewhere else in the physical universe that would have given You the same types of possibilities as You describe above, and more?

The Lord Jesus Christ: Of course I could have. But consider this: What would happen if I had acquired such a body and its nature somewhere else? First of all, with that type of body, I would not be able to enter human life because of the position, placement and correspondence that the typical human life has. Taking into consideration the gross perceptual limitations of the human sensory organs, as well as their human nature, I could not be visible or heard by humans. In that case, My approach to other beings would be limited to only those worlds where spiritual correspondence is established, which makes it possible for their inhabitants to physically see Me, hear Me, touch Me, hug Me, kiss Me and relate to Me in general. If this were to happen, humans would be excluded from this vital and important experiential mode of interacting with Me. Should such things as that happen, not only could humans not be saved from their accursed position, but, in an ultimate sense, the negative state could not be eliminated to eternity either. Don’t forget please, that, as mentioned in My New Revelation, transmitted through you, Peter, human life was the end product of the activation of the negative state by the pseudo-creators. Unless you do something with the end product, which is the foundation on which the entire negative state is manifested, that product assures, gives or provides a continuous opportunity for the negative state to be in its pseudo-being and pseudo- existence.

But there is another point to this: As you know, Peter, human life is the representation and embodiment of the most external of the most external. This factor gives it the ability, if put into the proper perspective and position, to be an all-inclusive factor of all and everything. Correspondentially speaking, if you are a skin or a container that holds everything together or in one place, in order for you to be such an effective container, you will potentially contain within you all the elements of everything else in being and existence and in pseudo-being and pseudo-existence.

As you noticed, I said ‘potentially.’ The reason for this is in the fact that human life is a manifestation and exemplification of a perverted, screwed up (excuse Me for that expression!) and inverted order of life. Nothing is normal in and about human life. However, in order for Me to be able to manifest Myself to My Creation and elsewhere in infinite varieties, manners and ways, it was necessary and vital for Me to acquire a very unusual and specific nature which has all the prerequisites of having something in its structure and dynamics that would be able to contain all the necessary elements from everything, everyone and everywhere. Such possibilities can only be found in something that occupies the most external of the most external because it is the end product of the creative or pseudo-creative effort. Its nature can be actualized and realized only, and only by the inclusion of all elements representing everyone and everything from everywhere. This is how it is built.

For your information, there is no other physical place, or any other, which would have this ability except human life and what it represents, and planet Zero. The reasons for this situation are in the fact that human life and human nature were fabricated, as you remember, from three contradictory elements: perverted and distorted elements from the life of the positive state and all its aspects; from perverted and distorted animal elements; and from perverted and distorted ideas of the physical elements. Because of this factor, human nature contains, in the ultimate conglomeration of these elements — in a perverted and distorted manner — the potential to represent everything and everyone in the most external of the most external manifestation.

In order to utilize these potentials of human nature and its life, it was necessary, and even absolutely vital, for Me to incarnate into the human life, become a human, experience life as humans do, and by the process of a special procedure, impossible for your human mind to comprehend, to revert it within Me, keep it from being perverted and distorted and make it proper, natural and orderly so that it could be utilized by Me for the purpose for which I acquired it.

So, how does all this relate to your question of My manifesting Myself to My Creation and elsewhere in infinite varieties, manners and ways?

Having this type of human body and the human nature relevant to it, in their purified and freed condition, process and state, it enables Me to appear in a physical and tangible mode, way and manner, which is relevant to each and every level of My Creation and elsewhere. Such an appearance comes from the position of that element contained in that body, which was extracted from the respective world and its inhabitants.

This process, Peter, how it happens and how the human body and its nature are being utilized in this process, is extremely difficult for the limited human mind to grasp or comprehend. No more can be said about it at this particular time.

Peter: I understand. Intuitively however, I can grasp this process quite well. Now, my second question: It relates to something I heard at the beginning of December, 1998. As You know, at that time, I was mandated to take some seminars required by law for the purpose of renewing my professional license in the State of California. The topic of that seminar was “How to integrate spirituality into psychotherapy” or from our standpoint “pseudo-spirituality.” Most of it related to yoga practices and similar methods of the Indian pseudo-spirituality and to what they teach. The presenters mentioned Christian and Islamic pseudo-spirituality only marginally. At one point during the seminar, one of the presenters mentioned with great elation that a conference was being organized in San Francisco in which the representatives of all existing religions on planet Zero will participate. The purpose of that conference is to disregard all existing differences amongst them, and instead, to find, establish and promote the common ideas, concepts and denominators that exist in all of them. In other words, to unify the purpose and goal for which they were established. Any comment about this particular event?

The Lord Jesus Christ: I am glad, Peter, that you asked this question. It is not by coincidence that this type of conference is being organized at this particular time. It is keyed into the shift that is in the process of occurring. As you know so well, any time that a shift is initiated from the position of the positive state (and for your information, only and only from the position of the positive state such shifts can be initiated — the negative state doesn’t want to change anything), the members of the negative state have to come up with some type of countermeasure in order to protect themselves from the positive influence which that shift imparts upon them. Of course, as you know, Peter, such an influence is not experienced by them as positive but as a very painful and troubling event.

Due to the fact that the negative state’s pseudo-philosophy and pseudo- spirituality are based on differences, contradictions and opposites, and due to the fact that whenever a shift occurs in the positive state and brings its impact into the negative state, exposing this adverse state of affairs in the negative state, its members must come up with something that could successfully block them from the influence of that shift. Finally, at this point in time, they realized that the problem they have in this respect lies in their differences, oppositions and irreconcilable views, opinions, dogmas and principles, upon which, their lifestyle and pseudo- spirituality are founded. So, for the first time, they very clearly recognize that the only way to fight the impact of these shifts, the positive state and its agents in general, is by coming together and doing something about the structure and dynamics of their setup.

On your planet, this state of affairs is reflected in the attempt of all existing religious and spiritualistic trends to forge some kind of unification of their respective systems through their commonalities, rather than differences. This effort has been in motion on their part and on your planet for some time. It is assumed that by accomplishing this, they would be able to win their case against the positive state more successfully. And because the issue here is purely spiritual, it is the religions and their respective sects, as well as various pseudo-spiritual movements, that they are utilizing for this purpose. I can assure you, Peter, and all who read these words, that this is one of the most important means for the negative state to completely pseudo-win on your planet.

So, what is going to happen or is already happening? First of all, in order to establish some common ground for all these religions for the purpose of their pseudo-unification, they will need — and they already do — to redefine the conceptualization of My True Nature and any of My Words in My Old, as well as, in My New Revelation. As you know, Peter, the major stumbling block for most of those religions is Me and Who I truly am. Not many of them, or not even all of them, acknowledge My Divinity. They have problems accepting the fact that I am either the true and only God or the only begotten Son of God — as the majority of Christians believe (although nowadays not all of them believe this to be so). Because of that, they need to come up with a compromise about this issue, proclaiming that, yes, I did exist but I was either a common, enlightened man or a prophet comparable to Mohammed in the Islamic religion. Now, you can build a real unification on this kind of compromise. But at the same time, this compromise totally destroys any semblance of anything truly spiritual, because it is totally and completely false. If you build something on falsities, you establish a purely negative lifestyle, that doesn’t contain even one grain of anything from the positive state. By establishing such a compromise, a total pseudo-victory is accomplished on your planet.

Another compromise which is being reached by these religions and all their respective sects and pseudo-spiritual trends, is to admit or accept the pseudo-fact that whatever is written in the Gospels, for example, or in The New Revelation, was — in the majority of that written material — not from Me, but added by My disciples, or in the case of My New Revelation, by its current transmitter — Peter. Oh, yes, of course, in their effort to compromise, they will admit that I did say some of it but that most of it, I didn’t say. Did you notice how this concept was propagated not that long ago in an article in Time magazine? They put the words that I allegedly didn’t say in parenthesis and those that I allegedly did say, outside parenthesis. If you carefully analyze and compare the words that, according to them, I said, with those that I didn’t, you will notice that the most important and spiritually impactual words are put in parenthesis, and those that are the least important and almost insignificant, are outside of them. So, what is it that I actually said? Nothing of great revolutionary importance or significance. Doesn’t it prove that I am not God or the only begotten Son of God? And they will compromise in many other similar issues so they can accomplish their goal in this respect.

Do you see from this explanation how the negative state is being condensed and is concentrating on its pseudo-victory on this planet? It is almost there.

Peter: Yes, clearly. How do the pseudo-creators and their minions, and the renegades and their minions fit into all of these pseudo-endeavors?

The Lord Jesus Christ: In essence, it is the renegades and their minions that are the most intensely involved in this effort. Besides what was said about it just above, there is another point to this effort. It relates to the renegades’ takeover of some regions on planet Zero (as indicated to you in one of the previous Dialogs). Their pseudo-unification in this respect is not only for the purpose of bringing about their pseudo- spiritual victory, but to also destroy the power of the pseudo-creators and take over from them not only this planet, but the entire Zone of Displacement and all the Hells. Because one of the major strongholds of the pseudo-creators has always been the religions and their widespread pseudo-diversity, the renegades are targeting these religions by trying to eliminate this pseudo-diversity through the process of pseudo-unification and a compromise in their major dogmas.

The pseudo-creators have no interest in this process per se, because, first of all, in their opinion, it is the best possible way to keep people in darkness regarding the truth; and secondly, they need to scientifically experiment with all modes of diverse, irreconcilable religious views, dogmas, ideas and philosophies, in order to see whether there is any specific religion or sect or spiritual trend that could give them the right answers to their most fundamental question; and whether a lifestyle could be established, based on such a religion, or whatever, in this respect, that would lead to the acceptance of the statistical Null- Hypothesis, claiming that there is no Absolute Truth and that, therefore, everything is relative and transient, making life possible without The Lord Jesus Christ and His/Her True Spiritual Principles or with false gods — them, and their pseudo-spiritual principles.

If the renegades could succeed in their effort in this respect, they would undermine one of the most potent tools of the pseudo-creators for accomplishing their goal. In that case, they could never get the right answers, or any answers, to their inquiry. They would become totally impotent, an easy subject for takeover by the renegades. If this were to happen, then the negative state could not be eliminated because the answers to those vital questions could never be received. And of course, Peter, this is exactly the goal of the renegades — to assure the existence of the negative state, under their domain and rule, to eternity.

You see, Peter, at the time of My First Coming on your planet, the pseudo-creators had already experimented with and established a pseudo-unified spiritual movement, for the purpose of studying its development in order to ascertain whether the answers to their questions could be derived from such an effort. As you know, at that time only two major religious trends existed. One was the so-called gentile/pagan type of pseudo-spirituality reflected in all those nations that existed at that time in many clusters and communities; the other was found among the Jewish nation, rooted in Moses’ Laws.

However, if you carefully analyze the dogmas of these religions, you will see clearly that they all were based on one unifying principle — the well- defined rituals and sacrifices of animals and, sometimes, even humans. So, after studying these established pseudo-unified procedures for a while, it became obvious to the pseudo-creators that from the standpoint of their scientific and logical approach, whatever outcome they offered, it became circular, leading nowhere. The Null-Hypothesis, based on them, could be neither accepted nor rejected.

Because of the circularity of their conclusions, the pseudo-creators found themselves at a dead end. At this point, they needed something new and different. As you remember from My New Revelation, it was at that point of their experimentation that they conceived the idea of going backward in time before My Creation was created in order to approach the whole subject and object of their inquiry from an entirely different angle. From the standpoint of the spiritual and physical laws, such travel could not have been permitted by Me because it would have entailed such havoc in the time-space and condition-state continuum that it would have nullified all possibilities for any type of creative effort to take place — forever to eternity. For the sake of all of those who were already created, as well as for the sake of the pseudo-creators themselves and their possible salvation, it was necessary to prevent this travel from happening.

My birth on planet Zero was a preventive measure from this ever happening. The reason why it was on this planet and into human life was because only from that position could I accomplish My goal without annihilating anyone or anything in the process, due to My Absolute State and Condition. Human life gave Me the possibility to do that from the relative condition, the condition in which all experimentation has been taking place by the pseudo-creators and in the condition that the pseudo- creators were themselves. As you remember, a valid, effective and lasting change in such a condition can only take place from its own state. Any other state would have no impact on it. It would simply fail.

So, the pseudo-creators were locked up for a very long time from the standpoint of your planetary time. In the meantime, the rulers of the Hells who succeeded the pseudo-creators, and who are now called renegades, continued in their effort to establish the dominance of the negative state on planet Zero and elsewhere. One such effort led to further diversions, schisms, divisions and factions within the various religious systems on planet Zero and elsewhere in the Zone of Displacement. As you know, Peter, following My departure from your planet, My disciples, and especially Paul, established the so-called Christian religion; in addition to the existing ones (especially Buddhism and Hinduism). Later on, the Islamic religion was established. However, shortly after they were established, the negative state succeeded in perverting them in such a manner that anything positive and good in them gradually eroded so that at the present time nothing of that remains in them.

When the pseudo-creators were released from their lockup, they were almost shocked out of their wits, so-to-speak, to discover how many new religions, sects and various spiritualistic trends had appeared on planet Zero. They were even more shocked to realize that My New Revelation was in the process of being transmitted, which revealed all these facts for the first time in human history; as well as the secret of their own work and what they did with humans. So, they decided to observe and watch these two parallels very carefully. One, they decided to follow the development of all those numerous religions and their various sects and trends in order to see whether they will be able to establish a lifestyle, based on any of them, that would lead toward the answers to their questions; two, after they discovered the existence of My New Revelation, its Updates, and now these Dialogs, and the life of those who read them and follow their principles, and who differ so much from anyone else, they decided to find out whether or not they represent the true answers to their questions.

These present efforts of the pseudo-creators will lead them to the indisputable conclusions that none of the observed and studied religious systems will be able to answer their questions properly because their methods and conclusions, and the lifestyle they lead, are circular, leading nowhere; and, on the other hand, studying, observing and working together with those who read and practice My New Revelation, its Updates and what is so far contained and will be offered in the upcoming days, months and maybe even years in these Dialogs, will lead them to the inevitable conclusions that they contain all the answers to their questions in an absolute sense. Thus, to their scientific mind, the Null- Hypothesis will be rejected by them. They will wholeheartedly accept the fact that the only Absolute Truth is The Lord Jesus Christ and His/Her Spiritual Principles from Whom all life derives and is made possible.

In the meantime, they will be dealing with the renegades, placing them into the position of recognizing the foolishness of their endeavors and efforts and gradually convincing them to relinquish their position and join the pseudo-creators in building the bridge for converting to the positive state. At that time, the end of the negative state will become eternal reality.

Peter: Thank You very much for this profound explanation. I think I will postpone asking my third question to the Twelfth Dialog.

The Lord Jesus Christ: It is a wise decision. Go and rest now, Peter. Thank you for your effort in recording these dialogs and disseminating them to those who ask for them or who are eager to get them.

Source: DIALOGUES WITH THE LORD JESUS ​​CHRIST PART 1.

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