To read aloud
TWELFTH DIALOGUE
January 6, 1999
Peter: You know, it is interesting to notice how things work. Yesterday
evening I received an E-mail letter from one of our people in Slovakia
who raises some of his concerns about the alleged behavior of some other
person from the Slovak group of the readers and practitioners of Your
New Revelation; and who is also asking for clarification on the use of
homeopathic means in treating physical problems; and on the use of
similar, non-traditional alternative (alternative to traditional medicine)
approaches to healing. Then, early this morning, when I fired up my
computer and checked my E-mail, I found our Rosemarie’s message,
asking the same type of question. She responded to the reading of our
Eleventh Dialog. In the Slovak letter, the issue is also raised about the
possible spiritual danger of practicing numerology, palm reading,
astrology and similar methods so widely practiced and believed by many
humans on this planet. Can You offer us some clarifications and
comments on these two issues?
The Lord Jesus Christ: Gladly, Peter. Let us take them one by one.
First, we will discuss the issue of homeopathy and other alternative
means for the cure of your physical ills and problems (such as
acupuncture, hypnosis, chiropractic, herbs, vitamins and minerals, etc.)
and then we’ll address the more spiritually dangerous issue of utilizing
psychic readings by whatever means or methods.
In a general sense, any treatment, alternative to the traditional medical
treatment is neutral from the spiritual standpoint. It is neither positive
nor negative. The neutrality of its condition is nullified by the purpose
for which it is being prescribed and utilized; and by the attitude of the
individual who seeks out such alternative treatment. The problem only
begins with the attempt to generalize its utilization, claiming that it is
either a cure for all ills, or applicable for all to utilize without
discrimination. A more dangerous problem behind such methods is in
their pseudo-spiritual background. We shall speak about it in a moment.
In a general sense, there is no difference between the traditional medical
approach and the alternative medical approach. Both approaches
prescribe a certain type of treatment either by some kinds of medications
or other procedures. Both of them are from the externals to the externals.
They either work or they don’t. And no one knows why, in some cases,
they work, and in others, they don’t. And in some cases their application
and/or taking may kill you. Take for example, the very common and
useful treatment by antibiotics. For some people it can be a physical life-
saving means. For others, allergic to it, it can cause severe reactions that
may lead to physical death. The same things can and may happen with
homeopathic prescriptions or with taking herbs, vitamins and minerals.
In some cases they work beautifully, in some, they don’t do anything,
they are harmless; and in other cases they can be harmful.
So, as you see from these facts, there is no simple conclusion that would
make us comfortable proclaiming that one method is better than the
other, or that some methods can be used indiscriminately by all, because
it would accomplish or give them exactly the same results. What does
this conclusion tell you? The simple answer to this question is in the
spiritual fact that whatever is proper, right, useful and beneficial for one
individual, may or may not be necessarily proper, right, useful and
beneficial for another; and in some cases, that which can be a life-saving
means for one person, can be deadly for another.
Why is this so? And here comes the most important spiritual factor that
none of these methods are taking into consideration — the personal,
individualized and unique choices that each individual made in this
respect, either before entering the pseudo-life on this planet or in the
process of their choice-making decisions while living here. How much do
you or can you know about all those myriad reasons why anyone is in the
situation that he/she is in, at each fraction of a moment in time? What is
it that predisposes each individual to experience this or that and to
respond so well to one approach and totally fail, or even get killed, by
some other?
The answers to all such questions tie-in with each individual’s purpose
and assignment for participating in human life on planet Zero. As you
know, such purpose and assignment is known only to Me and, to some
extent, to the individual’s Spiritual Mind. Because of this important
spiritual factor, there can never be anything in human life, or anywhere
else for that matter, that could be effectively applicable and utilizable by
all for resolving any of their problems, no matter what they might be.
Because of this factor, it is extremely spiritually inappropriate and even
dangerous to go around trying to convince other people to take
homeopathic medications, or undergo some other type of treatment
method (such as for example, acupuncture, chiropractic, hypnosis,
biofeedback, herbs, vitamins and minerals, or any other traditional
medication and/or procedure, etc.) only because it works for you or
someone else, as the alleged behavior of that Slovak gentleman indicates.
To do that is spiritual arrogance. By doing that, you are setting yourself
up to become a target for the forces of the negative state. Of course,
before making any final conclusions about whether the allegation about
that gentleman in Slovakia has any objective merit, it would be prudent
to hear his side of the story. However, such things can happen even
amongst you. For that reason, we are treating this issue in the
framework of — what if it happens?
In this respect, it is the responsibility of each individual to determine,
through his/her intuition or personal feelings, which method of treatment
would be the best to utilize for each particular problem that he/she might
have. For you, as agents of My positive state, it is advisable to go inward,
by whatever means or ways that are available to you, or simply rely on
your intuition, to determine from Me in you, if any of these methods
would be applicable, effective and useful for you personally. Don’t be
surprised however, if in some cases it is indicated to you that none of
those methods, either traditional or alternative, would work. In that
case, some other spiritual factors are involved that require you to go
through the entire process of experiencing your condition until it runs its
course — without any outside intervention.
Peter: What about the spiritual means for healing? Or what they call
the ‘mind over matter’ type of healing?
The Lord Jesus Christ: I am glad you asked this question, Peter. At
one point in time, such methods were feasible and appropriate. However,
as you know, with all those shifts in the spiritual climate that have been
going on to this date, everything has changed. Don’t forget for a minute
what you were told some time ago; (Update 3 in the Corollaries...) that
all the methods and practices of humans had been totally and completely
subsumed by the forces of the negative state. There is an important
reason why this takeover was permitted by Me. Let Me illustrate this
situation on an example from your own experience, Peter. As you know,
several years ago, in the process of developing the principles of spiritual
hypnosis, and later on, the principles of spiritual self-hypnosis, as
reflected in your books, you were able to apply this method on yourself
very effectively. During many years of practicing your mind control, you
were able to instantly stop any bleeding from your cuts; remove within a
few minutes any symptoms of a cold or flu setting in; to prevent yourself
from any skin burns when you were sunbathing in temperatures
exceeding 100 degrees Fahrenheit; and you were able to utilize it for
many other similar conditions. For many years you would never get
physically or mentally ill. But, at one point in time, in the process of
transmitting The New Revelation of The Lord Jesus Christ, you
suddenly noticed that your methods of control were no longer working.
For a long period of time, you couldn’t figure out why this was happening
to you. Initially, you didn’t discern that the gradual process of the
takeover by the forces of the negative state of all methods and practices
was taking place on planet Zero, and because of that, this would have
resulted in the danger that the transmitted New Revelation could be
corrupted.
So, at that point, you were advised to switch to the typical external
means of dealing with these types of problems, specifically to taking
vitamins and minerals. You even tried all kinds of herbs but, in your
case, they didn’t work. This advice and the need to follow it, reflected the
shift on your planet from the inner, spiritual means to the more external
physical means. Or, on a higher level of understanding, it reflected the
process of shifting the battle from the spiritual and intermediate realm,
to planet Zero and the Zone of Displacement. In other words, everything
was shifted to the externals. For this reason, it became proper and right
to utilize external means to deal with external problems. Under these
conditions, the spiritual means could not work any longer, especially for
you and for some other agents of the positive state.
It is a different story with the agents of the negative state and humans
proper. Due to the fact that all methods and practices in this respect
were taken over by the forces of the negative state, at the present time,
such methods and practices are being utilized by them to corrupt,
mislead and influence people on this planet. And here comes the spiritual
danger of using these methods, as well as the alternative medicine
approach in healing, especially for the agents of My positive state and
also for everyone else on your planet. The forces of the negative state are
utilizing these methods and practices in such a manner so as to attach
various pseudo-spiritualistic philosophies, ideas and practices to them
which they attempt, in many instances very successfully, to impose on all
those who utilize such means for a cure. The rationale behind that is as
follows: If those methods and practices are working, if homeopathic
medicine, vitamins, minerals, chiropractic, hypnosis, acupuncture,
acupressure, yoga, and all other similar methods are working so well,
then, what they proclaim in their philosophy or religion or spiritual
claims must also be correct and right. Otherwise, their suggested
methods of cure would not be working.
Based on this factor, many humans on your planet converted to their
pseudo-spiritual cause and became their ardent followers. Thus, they fell
into the trap of the forces of the negative state, set for them in such a
convenient and convincing manner. Is there any better way to convince
someone of the rightness of their pseudo-spiritual cause than by giving
them a means for effectively dealing with their physical problems? For
the agents of My positive state, the use of such methods and practices —
if not careful, and if their use is not corroborated and endorsed by Me
through their intuitive discernment — may very well open the doors to
the forces of the negative state and cause many serious spiritual and
other types of problems. It is not easy to avoid falling into their trap if
you have such convincing proof that their approach may be working so
well.
Don’t forget please, that the forces of the negative state took over the
methods and practices that were utilized by the positive state. This is the
reason why they are working. On the other hand, because of this factor,
the positive state, likewise, had to change its own procedures in this
respect by switching to a purely individualized and personalized
approach which is totally and completely outside the reach of the forces
of the negative state. This is the reason why it was emphasized above
that it is up to each individual to determine, by his/her intuitive
discernment, which method or practice would be beneficial for him/her.
This is the proper spiritual way for all of you, My agents.
For that reason, going around and trying to convince others, or even
impose on them, to use something that is working so well for you, but
may or may not be proper and useful for others, is an extremely
dangerous thing to do. If you were to do that, as the alleged behavior of
the gentleman in Slovakia indicates, you would be playing into the hands
of the negative state. The consequences of such behavior could be very
unpleasant. You could easily become a propagator of the methods and
practices of the forces of the negative state. In that case, you would
become their slaves, receding from the principles of My New Revelation.
Be aware and beware of this extreme danger!
However, there is another point to the fact of why the spiritual means
are not working any longer for some of My agents when applied to the
treatment of physical ills and/or problems; or why some of you are unable
to experience a formal state of inwardness and be aware of My presence
within you and the presence of the members of your spiritual family.
This factor relates to the illustration and demonstration of your personal
life in your position as My agents.
The present spiritual climate and state of affairs, as related to the
current shift, requires your total and complete independence from any
imposing factors, either from within or from without. Especially the
imposing factor is the problem — in the view of the negative state. It is
easy to believe in anything which is contained in My New Revelation, in
its Updates, and now in these Dialogs, if you can see Me, hear Me,
communicate with Me and/or the members of your spiritual family; and if
you could accomplish many things in your life, based on your experiences
with such methods.
The forces of the negative state are saying: “Why don’t You cut off all the
ability of some of Your agents to go inward or to communicate with You
or to effectively utilize any of Your methods for dealing with their
problems, whatever they may be? Let us see, if only by reading and
applying the principles of Your New Revelation — without any backing
by Your visual or any other type of input, or without any effective
response during the application of Your spiritual methods, they continue
to be Your loyal and faithful servants — we’ll see whether they will stick
it out with Your New Revelation and whatever is written in it.” At the
same time, the forces of the negative state are providing you with their
own methods and practices that could be very effective in dealing with
whatever it is that you need to deal with. And they say, “Now we shall
see what or who is more effective — the reading and practicing of Your
New Revelation without any apparent impact and visible and immediate
response or support from You and Your positive state; or applying our
methods and practices which can have an immediate effect and result on
their lives. We shall see how long their loyalties to You and to Your New
Revelation will last under these conditions.”
This is a crucial issue for all of you, My agents connected to My New
Revelation. Agreeing to illustrate and demonstrate to the forces of the
negative state your ability, willingness, determination and resolve, by
your own free will, choice and decision, not to succumb to the great
temptation and charms of the negative state, no matter what; no matter
whether you have or don’t have any contact or input from Me in your
state of inwardness, by whatever means or modes; and that you are
totally content, happy and joyous to simply rely on the logic and beauty
of that which is contained in My New Revelation, its Updates and these
Dialogs; and your determination and willingness to live in accordance
with its principles, regardless of any external benefits and/or rewards;
doing so or being so, solely for the sake of the principles themselves,
because it is the right and proper thing to do. By doing all that and by
being that way, you are building the most beautiful, most permanent and
most solid foundation, on which, will be accomplished the conversion —
to the positive state and to My cause — of all agents and followers of the
negative state. This is the most beautiful and elating thing to do.
Peter: What about the allegations that the person in question has
reverted to his old practices of numerology and reading people’s palms?
This brings us to the question of any possible spiritual values in such
practices.
The Lord Jesus Christ: First of all, from the onset of the answer to this
question: No true spiritual values exist in such practices. They are of the
negative state’s nature. Not only that no spiritual values exist in them,
but they can become very dangerous. To read people’s palms, to make
conclusions about their nature, character, personality and/or about their
future; to cast horoscopes; to read the cards or tarots for them; to practice
numerology; or any other similar methods, so admired and revered by
the forces of the negative state and many humans, is to interfere with
My Divine Providence; with their free will and choice; with their destiny,
assignment and mission; and to impose on them something that was not
meant for them to know, or to have, or to be. These methods are one of
the favorite tools in the hands of the forces of the negative state for the
purpose of trying to alter or change the destiny of the humans who are
seeking such readings; for imposing their own plan on them of how the
life of such a person should proceed from then on, thus, ultimately
making him/her their own slave, who carries out their bidding.
What happens in cases like that is that the forces of the negative state
are able, in some instances, to catch such a person in their trap by
arranging things to happen exactly the way they were predicted. They
are also able to read out such person’s past events, impressing him/her to
the point that he/she starts to believe in everything that is indicated to
him/her in such readings. Once he/she starts to believe them, his/her
future actions are determined, not by his/her own freedom of choice, or
the original agreement, but by predicted, and therefore, expected events.
He/she becomes his/her own self-fulfilling prophecy. Because of these
facts, if there is any truth in what is being related to you, Peter, from
Slovakia; or if any one of you, anywhere, still practices these types of
methods; or lets others do readings for them; then he/she completely and
totally misunderstood the principles of My New Revelation. In that case,
you would not be led by My Divine Providence, or from your own within,
or by your own freedom of choice and free will, but by someone or
something else from the externals in the manner and way of inevitability
and fate. In that case, you have succumbed to the negative state. You
have lost your trust and confidence in Me and in My ability to lead you
by freedom of choice and by the events of our mutual agreement.
Of course, before the availability of The New Revelation of The Lord
Jesus Christ in general (in all its sources), the situation was somewhat
different. Such methods and practices were tolerated and permitted to
flourish. At that time, it gave some humans a little bit of awareness of
the existence of a spiritual reality that was lacking in their mind. Thus,
it provided an assurance for them that life is not limited only to that
which is presented to them by science or the blind faith of their
respective religious systems, but that a tangible proof exists for
something that transcends anything offered to them by the conventional
sources of knowledge. This is the reason, Peter, that you were allowed to
study those methods and use them very effectively and successfully.
However, once My New Revelation became available to you and to all, it
became obvious to you very quickly that such methods and practices
were no longer tenable because they had become the dangerous domain
of the negative state, through which, it interferes with the workings of
My Divine Providence. At that very moment, you threw them out of your
life, never returning back to them. They served their purpose and
fulfilled their use.
Peter: Again, I thank You very much for Your input and explanation of
these issues.
Source: DIALOGUES WITH THE LORD JESUS CHRIST PART 1.
