To read aloud
TWENTY FIRST DIALOGUE
January 17, 1999
Peter: Today, I don’t have any specific questions. Rosemarie has a
general question regarding pets and animals and Dr. Ardyth Norem has
a question regarding energy shifts in general and their impact on human
bodies/minds and on the agents of the positive state. I believe Dr.
Norem’s question was answered to some extent in the Sixteenth Dialog.
But, before answering these questions, would You like to comment on
anything else or have more clarification on any issues that we have
discussed so far?
The Lord Jesus Christ: Well, Peter, don’t you think that first we
should address some other concerns raised by the author of the letter,
whose content we discussed yesterday?
Peter: In that case, let me spell them out. The author of that letter
mentions something about the author’s manuscript Cosmic Sea and
Holy See. From the letter it is obvious that it is assumed that I have
read or am familiar with that manuscript. To tell You the truth, I don’t
have the foggiest idea what the author of that letter is talking about. It is
the first time I have heard about it. The only manuscript that I read was
the first one, which the author wrote several years ago and which talked
about a Texas preacher and how he converted to the positive state under
the influence of Your New Revelation. But to go back to the other issues
raised in that letter. The first question relates to the possible sexual
intercourse with a negative entity that assaults one sexually in a dream
or a vision or similar setup. Could it become an enjoyable experience
which may lead that negative entity to convert to the positive state? The
issue relates to the terms used in Demonology — ‘incubus and succubus.’
Incubus refers to an evil spirit who supposedly descends upon sleeping
women and has sexual intercourse with them. On the other hand, a
succubus allegedly is a demon in female form, said to have sexual
intercourse with sleeping men.
The second issue relates to the term ‘common people.’ The author of that
letter doesn’t know in what connotation it is being used. The author
assumes that the word ‘common’ carries some tinges of prejudice with it.
The third issue or question relates to the Marian dogma. The author asks
what Marian dogma is. And finally, since we call someone ‘psychic,’ what
do You call them? I hope I have covered all the issues raised in that
letter. So, the floor is Yours, if I may say so.
The Lord Jesus Christ: You may, Peter, you certainly may. Well, let us
begin with the sexual issue and then proceed to other concerns.
Following that, we’ll address Rosemarie’s and Ardyth’s questions.
As you know, Peter, sexual issues are one of the most sensitive,
misunderstood, misconceived, misinterpreted, misinformed and most
inappropriately practiced issues in human history and in the history of
the Zone of Displacement. To use your figure of speech: It is a loaded
gun, a barrel full of powder ready to explode at any minute. No matter
how much you explain or interpret the issue of sexuality, it will never
satisfy everyone. It will always stir bad blood within many, so-to-speak,
rage and many other negative emotions — should your interpretation
and offered explanation of sexuality contradict their own understanding
accepted under the influence of whatever belief system they cling to or
believe in.
It is almost futile to discuss this issue because the same thing that can
please one person, can turn off someone else. And such a turn off can
even happen to the point that such respective person rejects the entirety
of My New Revelation — as the case has been in the past on several
occasions. But let’s get to the point. Do such evil spirits or demons as
incubus and succubus really exist as independent entities specializing in
the sexual seduction of men and women while they are asleep? Are such
things possible? And if by any chance you perceive that such a sexual
assault is taking place in your dreams, should you succumb to that
experience, making it an enjoyable one which might help that entity
convert to the positive state? There are no such specific entities per se as
incubus and succubus.
However, don’t forget one important thing. Sexuality is one of the most
cherished and utilized tools in the hands of the forces of the negative
state to influence, seduce, corrupt, mislead, confuse, pervert, block and
destroy humans, and everyone else in their domain, and their proper
conceptualization and practice of sexuality and proper understanding of
spirituality and everything related to life in general and in specific. For
that reason, there is a contingent of evil spirits and/or demons that
specializes in sexual matters in order to impose on humans and others
the acceptance of the life and nature of the negative state. This
contingent may be called incubus and succubus — if you wish.
The question, of course, is what should you do if one of the members of
that contingent comes to you in your dreams and tries to sexually assault
you — as it happened to the author of that letter. The procedure the
author described is a good one. You instantly call upon Me, pouring out
My and your love, compassion, mercy and forgiveness and, at the same
time, ask that entity the purpose and reason for which it approached you.
Is it for a negative purpose, as described above? Is it a trap to get you
into the negative state under the pretense of great pleasure from having
sexual intercourse? Or is it being utilized to give that entity an
opportunity to convert to the positive state? Don’t forget that some
members of that contingent do want to convert to the positive state
under the general call for conversion provided in the Hells by My
outposts. You have to understand that because these members function
only through sexuality — it is their only tool — they don’t know any
other way to approach you for that purpose but by imposing sexual
intercourse on you during your vivid dreams while you are asleep. So, it
would be your duty and responsibility to determine what factor is in
place during such an event.
However, if such an approach is for the purpose of destroying you and
impeding your services for Me and for My positive state in general, your
duty in this respect is to get rid of that entity in My Name. However,
before you do that, you are to read that entity the rights and privileges it
has from Me and offer it the option to convert to the positive state. If the
entity agrees to convert, it is then sent to the appropriate region where it
will be taken care of. If not, then you send it back from where it came.
Remember, no entity, no matter how powerful it seems to be, has any
hold over you or can impose anything on you unless you allow it to do so
by your wrong attitude, inappropriate behavior, negative desire or by
some other factor stemming from your selfish needs. Only such negative
characteristics are able to open the doors to the influence of the negative
state, through which such evil entities may enter you, causing you all
kinds of problems or sexually assaulting you.
So, you are advised to always explore your state of mind and your
desires, behavior, attitude or whatever, in order to determine the reasons
for potentially or actually having such experiences. Talking about
sexuality, let’s touch upon a question not asked by the author of that
letter. Its author did ask about humans who have no possibility of having
sexual intercourse in the obvious manner — penis in a vagina — for
whatever reasons and/or problems. But what about humans who choose
not to have, ever, any sexual experiences? Take for example, priests,
monks and nuns in the Catholic and other religions who are prohibited
from having any sex by the dogmas of their respective religions. Or
people who specifically and consciously have made some kind of solemn
promise or vow to avoid sexual experiences for the rest of their human
life. These humans, by their own free will and choice, consciously
volunteered to enter such a restrictive type of life. They have their own
private and personal reasons why they made such a choice. Sometimes
such a choice is made for positive and good reasons — in their view, to
help the world and humanity by spending all their lives in meditations
and prayers. In view of the previously described usefulness of such
prayers, they are useless and futile, leading nowhere. What a waste of
positive and productive energy which could be used for much better
causes! Others enter such a condition because they believe that sex is a
sinful, dirty, filthy, ungodly and disgusting act tolerated only for
procreation and only within the marital bonds. And because, in their
view, a life without sex much more readily leads to admission into the
bliss of Heaven after physical death, they think that by entering such a
sexless lifestyle, they will be eligible to receive a ticket that will place
them in a much higher position in the heavenly hierarchy than anyone
else. This is spiritual arrogance, of course.
So, what do you think will happen to humans like that upon arriving in
the spiritual world? As you know, because of their sacrifice in this
respect, they expect to be rewarded with some very unusual and elevated
position in Heaven. To their greatest surprise, they find themselves in a
very peculiar position. By choosing a sexless life while living on planet
Zero, they repudiated from their spirit and soul any tolerance of anything
even remotely related to sexuality. So, when they experience the
heavenly atmosphere, they find it absolutely unbearable and suffocating
for the simple reason that the heavenly atmosphere is charged with
purely positive sexual energy. By their adopted attitude and lifestyle,
such atmosphere becomes poisonous for them.
So, what do you do with humans like that? As you know, Peter,
Swedenborg was the first one who noticed this situation with such
humans. In his time, for those priests, monks and nuns, and similar
humans who entered that state — because in the purity of their heart
they believed in the truthfulness of the doctrines of their respective
religion or churches; and who had no other hidden agenda or ulterior
motivation in this respect, — a special region was created, separated
from the positive and the negative state, respectively, and a special
atmosphere was induced in that region in which they could breathe
without any difficulties. Others, with hidden agendas and negative
ulterior motivation and intention, when they learned that Heaven is
charged with purely sexual energy, they became so furious and enraged
that they cursed God and chose to go to one the Hells where similarly
minded creatures resided.
Of course, as you know, Peter, many changes have occurred in the
spiritual world since the time of Swedenborg. The region in question was
abolished. Instead, a special division in the New School was established
which specializes in the affairs of these types of humans who entered a
sexless life with positive and good intent, and for no other ulterior
reasons. You have absolutely no idea, Peter, the kind of efforts,
insurmountable difficulties, complex and lengthy procedures, spiritual
genetic restructuring and similar means that need to be utilized in their
case, in order to reverse their accursed condition. Others, who refuse to
enter the New School, choose to go to one of the Hells where they are
gradually and slowly introduced into some semblance of a sexual life,
albeit a negative one. In some ways, it is better to be sexually involved in
whatever mode and by whatever means, as long as it does not hurt
anyone, than to have a totally sexless life by one’s own choice and desire.
To conclude this issue, let Me tell you or remind you that there is nothing
more individualized and personalized than sexuality and how it is
practiced in your own private and intimate life. In your case, as My
agents, it is even more so. Therefore, it is ultimately between Me and
you. So, you are advised to approach Me personally and ask Me how
sexual life should be practiced, experienced and manifested in your own
private life. No general rules can be given in this respect that would be
applicable to all in a blanket manner. For that reason, I would prefer it if
questions about sexuality are no longer asked in a general sense but are
directed to Me directly during your own private and intimate
communication with Me or through your own intuition, or any other
mode available to you, in case you don’t have a sense or perception of
such communication.
Peter: Thank You very much for this explanation. I hope that the author
of that letter, as well as anyone reading this, will do so.
The Lord Jesus Christ: I hope so too. However, don’t count on it. It is
like opening a can of worms, as you say it; or as opening Pandora’s box.
And now, let’s proceed with the other concerns raised in that letter.
The term ‘common people’ is not used in the same sense as the author of
that letter perceives it. To use the word ‘prejudice’ as applied to Me is to
misconstrue the character of My Absolute Nature which doesn’t contain
any negative human types of emotions or attitudes. The author is
projecting the typical human understanding of this term unto Me.
Common people are those on planet Zero and elsewhere in the Zone of
Displacement who have very little interest in deeper spiritual and life
issues, or similar issues, and who go about their everyday business and
activities without considering any causative factors for anything going on
in their everyday life. It simply doesn’t enter their mind. They don’t
concern themselves with any such questions or issues. They simply
bypass their awareness. And if they listen to something like that in their
church, or in any other place, whatever they hear in this respect enters
in one ear and goes out the other without triggering any interest or
desire to ponder about it any further. If you look around, you will find
that the majority of humans fall into this commonality. Hence, common
people. They are differentiated from those who are outside of this
commonality. Such as, for example, My agents and some others
interested in such issues.
The term ‘Marian dogma’ was coined by the Catholic Church. It is a
pseudo-spiritual concept which requires Mary to be placed on an equal
footing, if not higher, with Me, her alleged Son. It means that Mary
should also be considered a redeemer, savior and mediator for
humankind, together with Me, to My God-the-Father. It is an
abomination of the Catholic Church. The term ‘psychic’ is used by
humans. In the conceptualization of the positive state, this term doesn’t
have any merit because it assumes seeing or feeling something by one’s
intuition or insight into one’s own universal consciousness, triggered by
the presence of someone or something else and, in most instances, under
the influence of the negative state. For that reason this term has a
negative connotation. Because of that, it cannot be used in the positive
state. Instead, they are called humans who are sensitive to the inputs
from the emotions, desires, wishes, expectations and projections of others
or their possessions and objects, and who attempt to derive from them
the past, present and future events as related to any particular person
consulting such a sensitive human. The need to know these events stems
also from the negative state.
Peter: I think we’ve exhausted responding to the issues raised in that
letter. What a letter!
The Lord Jesus Christ: Yes, Peter. However, don’t forget, and I am
repeating this, that one of the important functions of these Dialogs is to
trigger in their readers the need to ask questions that may have
multiversal significance. The reason for this need can be found in the
factor of timeliness mentioned previously, and in the fact that any
knowledge about anything which derives from the Absolute Source —
Me, can be conveyed to you only in certain well-defined increments. Also,
don’t forget the factor of each respective individual’s position. From their
position, questions are being asked which can be asked only and only
from their position and from the position of that area of the multiverse —
their spiritual home base — from which they incarnated on planet Zero.
This factor is very important and needs to be taken into consideration —
if you wonder why so many questions.
Peter: Yes, I see Your point clearly. Should we now proceed with
answering questions raised by Rosemarie and Ardyth?
The Lord Jesus Christ: Yes, Peter, we may proceed with them. Let’s
take briefly the issue of pets and domesticated animals and the feelings
of love and compassion they evoke in people. The issues of compassion
and love can be applied to pets in a similar fashion as with abandoned
children. This is one positive function of such pets. However, there is
more to it than that. As you know, most pets, although not all, such as,
for example, cats and dogs, are negative spiritual correspondences. They
represent the fact that in order for the negative state to exist and to
flourish, someone has to love it and take care of it. Otherwise, the
negative state could have never come to its adverse fruition. So, humans
who love and care for their pets represent this factor. As you see from
this fact, it’s a mixture of a positive and a negative connotation, so
typical for human nature. The problem with having pets is not in having
them, but in some humans’ unreasonable and damaging attachments
that they establish with their pets, even to the point that they make
them the sole inheritors of their estate. In this sense, the pets become
idols and rule their life force in which they vest the meaning of their life.
In this case, your entire life revolves around your pets as though nothing
is more important in life than that. Once you arrive at this point, you fall
into the clutches of the negative state. Because of this danger, you have
to be very careful for what purpose, reasons or why you keep pets in your
home. Again, as always, ask Me whether it would be a good idea to have
such pets in your particular case. Even in questions like that, it is a
matter of personalization and individualization without any generalities.
And finally, in answer to Ardyth’s question: As you know, the nature of
the current shift, among many other significant things, represents a
significant distribution of energy which goes into the ultimate
condensation of the negative state, especially on planet Zero. For the
agents of My positive state, situated on planet Zero, it may feel as a
depletion of their personal positive energy, which they agreed to share or
to release to the negative state for that purpose — but ultimately to the
positive state, because the more condensed the negative state becomes,
the closer it is to its end and elimination. Some sensitive individuals
among My agents, especially those who chose to reflect various
occurrences by their bodily and/or mind functions, feel that this process
weakens their physical, mental and mind functions. The result of this
condition is their temporary state of physical and mental tiredness —
even despair in some cases. In order to prevent this from setting in for
too long, they would be advised to concentrate on My presence in them
and replenish their lost energies from the Absolute Energy that radiates
from Me unceasingly. All they need to do is ask. It is constantly
available. The issue here is again the same as was indicated in the
Sixteenth Dialog. If you are too much or for too long preoccupied with the
negative state, it increases its negative influence on you and you feel its
presence in a much greater degree than otherwise would be the case. To
avoid such a potential, concentrate instead on Me and on the positive
aspects of your mission, which you have from Me.
Peter: Thank You so much for giving us these explanations and
clarifications. Is there anything else today?
The Lord Jesus Christ: As always, you are welcome, Peter. And no,
this should be all for today. Have a pleasant afternoon.
Source: DIALOGUES WITH THE LORD JESUS CHRIST PART 1.
