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TWENTY NINTH DIALOGUE

January 26, 1999


Peter: Would it be appropriate this morning to ask You to expand, if possible, on the topic of the Twenty Eighth Dialog — its last paragraph — which deals with several options of how the ending of the negative state and typical human life might occur?

The Lord Jesus Christ: Only to a certain point. However, before going into that topic, let us address some issues raised by Dan in your telephone conversation. First of all, we’ll address the issue of, how dangerous is it for you to work with the pseudo-creators, specifically with the far right group and what is its status at the present time? The group in question has a considerable number. They are still bent on domination and taking over everything everywhere, including the positive state. However, some changes in their agenda have occurred. They are beginning to realize that the destruction of the positive state is not feasible or possible and therefore, to direct all energies in that direction is a waste. Due to that, the major goal of their effort was redefined. Instead of concentrating on this destruction, they redirected their energies on desperately trying to prove that the good and positive life is possible without The Lord Jesus Christ and His/Her Spiritual Principles — parallel to the life of the positive state. In order to do that, as you know, Peter, they are in the process of trying to fabricate creatures comparable to the sentient entities residing in the positive state with whom, they hope, they can accomplish their goal. So far, although several different types of creatures were fabricated and placed in their new pseudo-universe for the purpose of testing their hypothesis, none of them have come even close to anyone in the positive state.

So, they are trying. However, as you were previously informed by Me, their effort is tremendously hampered by the civil war with the renegades. All their efforts and resources, at the present time, are going into defeating and locking up the renegades. Because of that, their experimentation in this respect was put on hold. The sooner they are able to succeed in their struggle with the renegades, the sooner they may resume their experiments.

Your role in this process is to help them, through your participation in the Great Alliance, with defeating and locking up the renegades. It is to your advantage likewise, if they are able to resume their experimentation as soon as possible. The sooner they complete it, the sooner they will come to the realization that life of the positive nature is truly not possible without The Lord Jesus Christ and His/Her True Spiritual Principles. No matter what you do, how much effort you put into it, how many varieties and numbers of creatures you fabricate, without Me and My Spiritual Principles, you end up exactly in the same situation and predicament as with humans on planet Zero — although this time the outcome would be much worse and much more devastating than with humans proper because of the use of different genetic material extracted from the former agents of the positive state.

So, as you see from this situation, in order to accelerate the time needed for this purpose, it is crucial and vital to help them in this respect, so that this important realization comes to them as soon as possible and that, subsequently, the elimination of the negative state can be successfully completed.

Knowing that your cooperation and support in this effort is very important, this group of the pseudo-creators will not interfere with your other activities of a positive nature because it is clear to them that it is also to your advantage to get the final and decisive answers to their existential question. After all, the sooner they get their answers, the sooner the negative state can be eliminated. To repeat again, it is impossible to eliminate the negative state until such final answers are obtained and established once and for all.

Therefore, because of this factor, and because you are working closely with the members of the New Universe under My auspices, charge, presiding and guidance, you are in no danger by working with them on this important task. In fact, you have been working with them all along for some time now without your being consciously aware that this is the case (on the human conscious level).

The second issue, raised by Dan, relates to the practices you were advised to do in the past. This advice was recorded in Corollaries... (in the conclusion of Update 20). It relates to the need for retransmuting the negative energies, following your purification and cleansing from them, into positive ones and reapportioning them back to the positive state from which they were originally stolen. The principle which is being referred to here, and which is one of the most important principles in the totality of My New Revelation, is the law of continuous progression, change, growth, modification, updates, upgrades, adjustments, removal and similar factors inherent and embedded in the very structure and nature of the positive state. In other words, to what degree are you still advised to continue doing so, if everything has changed and nothing is the same?

There are two aspects to this issue. One relates to your different positioning and role as My representatives. The other relates to your still being in the human skin and being influenced by the artificial human nature. In the first instance, being that you are positioned in the midst of the positive state, you no longer need to make an all-out conscious effort to undertake the process of retransmutation and reapportionment because it happens automatically by itself, by virtue of the fact that you are in the positive state. Anything that you bring with you from your human nature, is being taken care of by surrounding you with the lights of My positive state and by My engulfing you with My New Nature specifically for that purpose. This process in itself, and how it is being done, cannot be revealed to you or comprehended by you as long as you are in your human skin.

In the second instance, being in your human skin and having that artificial human nature, subjects you to a continuous bombardment by various thoughts, feelings, emotions, behavior, etc., which are of the negative nature and inconsistent with anything of the positive nature. Don’t forget that your human nature was fabricated from the ideas of evils, falsities and all kinds of distortions. Because of that, it attracts evil and negative spirits who feed on it. The process of that feeding is experienced by you as fear, anxiety, doubt, uncertainty, confusion, guilt, depression, heaviness, tiredness, helplessness, hopelessness, misery, irritability, anger, hostility, and many other similar negative states and conditions. Whenever you are experiencing these types of states of mind and life, you can be assured that these negative and evil spirits are feeding on your human nature.

In this case, you have to take responsibility to actively and consciously differentiate what is happening in you by the process of the mentioned feeding, from that which is My endowment in you — your true nature. Do you retransmute and reapportion anything of that nature? Although originally, the energies that were utilized in the process of activating the negative state came from the positive state, once the pseudo-life of the negative state was established, it started to produce its own energies apart from anything contained in the original energies of the positive state. Thus, the pseudo-life of the negative state, by the process of its pseudo-being and pseudo-existence, discharges its own energies, utilized to produce the adverse states mentioned above. The original energies of the positive state, transmuted into negative ones and apportioned to the negative state, are now being taken care of by Me personally, as you are positioned in the midst of My positive state. The other energies, which we may call pseudo-energies, are not usable for anything positive because they are the result of a secondary production and derivation for the purpose of maintaining and perpetuating the negative state’s pseudo- life. They are to be discarded into the cesspool of the negative state until that time when the negative state is eliminated. Because these pseudo- energies are integral to the nature of the negative state, they have only temporary pseudo-value which will disappear with the disappearance of the negative state.

So, whenever you become aware within your mind and your human psyche of these negative emotions, thoughts, feelings, or whatever, utilize My Light to engulf you, and push them back into the above mentioned cesspool where they belong. Actively and consciously pronounce that they are not yours, that they are pure impositions and that you will not allow any negative or evil spirits to feed on them only because of having this artificial human nature. ‘That nature,’ you may say, ‘is unreal and has no life in itself and by itself and therefore, it is an illusion to even think that anything can be derived from it that would have any semblance of true life and able to maintain and perpetuate the pseudo-life of the negative state in any form or shape.’

Following that, very strongly reaffirm, reconfigure and reestablish your identity as My true representatives and your commitment to be embedded in your genuine and original nature which stems directly from Me.

In this process you will be assisted by the members of My New Universe, who are very well-versed in doing this type of work effectively and successfully. It is in their nature to do so. One of the reasons why they were assigned to you is to help you in this process. The problem here is that when you are in the midst of experiencing the impact of their feeding on your artificial human nature, it is difficult to be aware of anything else but what you experience — which is negative. During times like that, you tend to lose the perspective of who you really are, and there is a strong identification with your human nature and not with your true nature. After all, when you have such strong negative emotions, how can you even consider that you are someone else but what you experience at that moment?

This is how the negative state gets to you. It tells you something like this, ‘you fool, how can you even consider that you are not one of us, if you are so pronouncedly and painfully having such typical human experiences?’ These are the times when you have to be on guard and bring to your conscious awareness that you are in My Light, in the light of the positive state and, specifically and particularly, in the light of the New Universe, radiated into you through its members who are assigned to you for that purpose. This is also the answer to the third issue raised by Dan, regarding your involvement with the members of the New Universe to help you be true and genuine humans without the negative connotation of the typical human nature. In other words, to be like them as much as possible because they reflect My Absolute Nature in their condition which includes the human nature in its positive connotation as well.

The difference between the old ways and the new ways is in the fact that, whereas in the old ways you had to pray for this to happen, or ask for help so that it would happen on a continuous basis; in the new ways, you need to shift your conscious awareness to Me, My positive state, the members of My New Universe and to your true nature; and to the fact that you are now positioned in the midst of the positive state. By doing it in this new way, you reaffirm the fact that you are My true representatives.

During your former roles as agents of My positive state, being that you were positioned in the midst of the negative state, and embedded in your artificial human nature, it was necessary for you to actively ask Me for help and protection by your own free will and choice. Because of the nature of that position and role, anything that would be given to you without asking, would be by imposition and not by freedom of choice. As you know, the negative state is rooted in no freedom of choice and impositions. In your case, as agents of the positive state, you needed to illustrate a lifestyle which is by freedom of choice without any impositional factors. Otherwise, in the view of the negative state, if you didn’t ask for it, but it was imposed on you, then what is the difference between the positive state and the negative state, respectively? After all, they both function on the principles of impositions! Do you see the fundamental difference?

Peter: Very clearly.

The Lord Jesus Christ: On the other hand, once you are positioned in the midst of the positive state, by its very nature, being that the positive state is the state of the very freedom, independence and choice in itself and by itself, by virtue of that fact, you no longer need to ask for anything but simply be aware that you are right in the midst of it. Being in the midst of the positive state, constitutes an automatic response to anything that you need in any respect, and it is provided for you whenever you need it and if you need it. Here is the factor of total and unconditional reliance on Me and My provisions for you of everything you need in all aspects of your life. Once you establish such a reliance within your mind, you no longer need to ask anyone or anything for any help because it is constantly there available to you at any time you shift your awareness to it.

Peter: Thank You very much for this clear and concise explanation.

The Lord Jesus Christ: You are welcome, Peter. Let us now address your question, Peter, expanding on the possible scenarios and options that exist for ending the negative state.

One possible scenario and option was not mentioned yesterday. It entails that neither the pseudo-creators nor the renegades would physically appear on this planet, as expected by all of you. The consequence of this option would be that a very peaceful, painless, kind and gentle transition to the positive state of all involved in the negative would be accomplished. In that case, no physical need would exist for such an appearance. The Zone of Displacement would become the Zone of Placement within the true Creation without any outward turmoil or holocaust.

One alternative to this possible option exists and could be chosen. Neither the pseudo-creators nor the renegades would physically appear on planet Zero but the turmoil, holocaust and Great Tribulation would take place in other dimensions, especially within their domain in the Hells, in other regions of the Zone of Displacement and in their new pseudo-universe, and the new quasi-new universe of the renegades. From that position they would be able to impact the events on planet Zero and in the human life in such a manner so that the winning of the negative state on your planet would happen by a direct pseudo-spiritual influence into the humans’ minds without the need for their physical appearance. The factor of their physical appearance would be a secondary consideration in this scenario if they could take control of all human affairs from their own level. In some way, they would prefer doing it this way.

Let us look now on the possible alternative that entails that both the pseudo-creators and the renegades would appear on your planet physically, or in some other tangible and perceptible form. What would happen then? The renegades, let us say, would appear in Russia, for example, and in the lands of its faithful allies, such as for example, Iraq, Serbia and some other Arabic and non-Arabic nations and in the former Republics of the defunct Soviet Union. On the other hand, let us say that the pseudo-creators would appear in the USA and in the lands of its faithful allies in Europe and elsewhere. Now, because they fiercely fight each other in their own civil war, they would immediately engage those countries in their cause. In that case, a devastating war would plague this planet with such an unimaginable outcome that it is quite possible that no one would survive it. This is one way how the negative state would win on this planet — by total destruction and doom. After all, it is in its very nature to be that way. Some sensitive individuals on your planet who are able to plug into some aspects of the events happening elsewhere, have been reading into this possible scenario and outcome, and are predicting this to happen. Having this information from the negative state, they are able to predict only disasters and a doomsday. They don’t see anything else. Hence, the prediction that a Third World War would start on July 4, 1999, with Russia, Iran, Iraq and others on one side, and the USA and its allies on the other side.

The other scenario which is being considered is the appearance of only the pseudo-creators in a physical mode, or visible by human physical eyes. As mentioned yesterday, such an appearance would denote that the renegades were taken care of and that the pseudo-creators are now in full control of all regions in their domain. In case this scenario is chosen, the appearing pseudo-creators would come as gods and creators of humanity, refuting the existence of any spirituality or God or The Lord Jesus Christ or any other supernatural being or deity. In fact, from their own ranks they would produce fakes of these divine personages. By accomplishing this, and by convincing humans of the truthfulness of their claims, the negative state would win on planet Zero.

Still, another scenario could be chosen in which only the renegades would appear physically, or in any other visible or tangible form. If this option would be chosen, it could mean two things: The pseudo-creators had lost and are confined back in their respective Hells — an extremely remote possibility! Or that they all converted to the positive state and let the renegades complete the cycle of the negative state’s pseudo-being and pseudo-existence and the final manifestation of its ugliest, most putrid and most despicable face — a somewhat likely scenario.

In this case, with the renegades in full control here, all aspects of the content and meaning of the Great Tribulation of apocalyptic proportions would be fully triggered and manifested on planet Zero. They would rule this planet and humans in the most brutal, dictatorial and bloody way you could imagine or actually, you couldn’t imagine it at all — that’s how terrible it would be. The only thing I can tell you about this scenario or option, is that, pray that it would never happen or be chosen.

And finally, the most mysterious, secret and hidden scenario and option, I keep in My personal reserves, so-to-speak. As mentioned yesterday in the Twenty Eighth Dialog, this scenario can’t be revealed because it is of an Absolute Nature. Because of that, even if it were possible to describe some of its minor aspects, your mind, or the mind of any relative sentient being, could not comprehend or apprehend any of it, no matter how hard it would try. However, if this option were to be chosen, in the process of its manifestation, once it is in place, you would begin to understand its nature and why it was necessary and vital to choose it. The best thing about this option would be that it is of such a wonderful nature, that nothing exists in anyone’s mind that would even remotely approximate what it is and how it would look. So, let us finish at that.

Peter: Thank You so much for this explanation. Should we continue or should we finish for today?

The Lord Jesus Christ: I would recommend to finish for today and resume, if needed and feasible, tomorrow with the Thirtieth Dialog. In the meantime, have a very nice rest of the day.

TWENTY NINTH DIALOGUE

Source: DIALOGUES WITH THE LORD JESUS ​​CHRIST PART 1.


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