To read aloud
SECOND DIALOGUE
December 25, 1998
Peter: Today, I would like to continue in our discussion about the
individual differences in all the agents of the positive state and their
position, as related to You and to Your New Revelation and its Updates. I
am humbly asking You to further elaborate on this issue, as well as on
my role, position and assignment in this respect.
The Lord Jesus Christ: First of all, let us reiterate what was said
about it in the Corollaries… . As you remember, it was indicated there
that no one person in your group, or in a broader sense, none of the
agents of the positive state situated on planet Zero — or anywhere else
for that matter — are on the same level of understanding, acceptance,
application or practice of My New Revelation, as well as how they
perceive, recognize, understand, accept and relate to My Nature or to Me
personally. Why is this so? First of all, My Absolute Nature — and this is
a reminder of what was said before — cannot be manifested in its
fullness in any relative or created entity/being. So, My Nature releases
an idea of a certain element in Me which is subsequently imparted on the
prospective sentient entity, by which idea, that entity becomes a living,
thriving, productive, creative, functional, independent and unique
personality or “I am” relative to My Absolute “I AM.”
Secondly, once any idea of that one element is released and imparted on
the prospective individual, it becomes relative only to that area of My
Nature from which it was released. Because of the conditionality and
relativity of the subject to the object of its source, in this case to Me — by
its very nature, reflecting the portion of that Nature from which it
originated — that individual is capable to relate only to that aspect and
level of My Nature from which it was born. Thirdly, it is impossible and
totally inconceivable to repeatedly release the same idea of the same
element into being and existence because it already has its place,
condition and life. If it were possible to do so, it would require the
annihilation of the already existing individual who occupies his/her own
unique place, state and condition.
What you have to understand in this case, if you can, is that the idea of
the element in question may be projected only into the state, condition,
place and position which is already occupied by someone else. After all, it
is the same idea and therefore, it requires its own state, condition,
position and place. But because there is someone else in that situation
already, the same idea, repeatedly released, would violently force out
that someone else from his/her position, state, condition and/or place.
Due to the fact that the idea in question cannot occupy some other state,
condition, position and/or place, (after all, it always has its own position,
state, condition and/or place), it would have to be annihilated, yielding to
the same repeatedly released idea. Fourthly, being that the idea in
question comes from an element in My Nature that is entirely unique
and different from any other elements, it gives the respective individual
a unique nature which is different from anyone and anything else in the
entire being and existence. Fifthly, there is a corresponding factor to the
placement of that individual into the world or dimension which
comprises or, to use a better word, reflects in its totality, that aspect of
My Nature in which the element — which was used to project its idea
into that individual — resides, and from which, it was released.
Now, because of these factors, any individual can relate to Me or to My
Nature — as well as to anything conveyed by Me in The New
Revelation of The Lord Jesus Christ and its Updates — only from the
position of his/her placement, state, condition and/or place. From this
stems the reason why no one can relate to Me or to My Word, or have the
same understanding of My Nature or My Word, as any other individual.
So, to summarize, due to this factor, every individual has his/her own
assignment, role, life and character which is uniquely different from
anyone else’s. There is always an alignment of this role and assignment
with the area or level of Creation, in which and from which, that
individual initially originated. Thus, he/she carries within her/his
nature, in a unique conglomeration and manifestation, all traits of the
character and nature of the world from which he/she was incarnated on
planet Zero, or from anywhere or anywhen else. Because of this setup,
that individual is responsible and accountable, first of all, to Me, or to be
precise, to the idea of that element of My Nature which became the
source of life and manifestation of that individual; and secondly, that
particular individual is responsible and accountable to the world or
dimension where he/she was situated in permanent residence and, in the
case of the agents of the positive state who incarnated on planet Zero,
from where they came.
As you see from this description, it would be extremely dangerous for
anyone to try to imitate or duplicate anybody’s nature, role, position
and/or assignment. This would equal the denial and even destruction of
everything related to the uniqueness of one’s personality and
assignment. So, whenever any individual had agreed to accept an
assignment from Me which required him/her to incarnate on planet Zero,
that individual also explicitly agreed to do so solely from the position of
his/her unique nature, from the world he/she came from and, most
importantly, from the nature, character and traits of the idea of the
specific element which I released from an area of My Absolute Nature
and imparted on that individual, giving him/her, by that factor, unique
life.
From what was said so far, it is clear why no one can ever be on the same
level of understanding, acceptance or relatedness to Me or to My Word.
Remember, this is the way it is supposed to be.
Peter: What about my role, position, place, etc., in all of this?
The Lord Jesus Christ: As you remember from the information
relating to your own position, contained in Update 13, which you were so
reluctant to accept, your nature was created from an idea of an all-
inclusive area of My Nature that contains, in a relative condition, as
related to you, all the elements that were needed in order for you to
become the sole transmitter of My Word. The need for such a wide-
spread inclusion stems from the fact that My Word, whenever it is being
released or conveyed, cannot be limited only to one area or region of My
Creation or to any other place, state or condition. Don’t forget that My
Word, in this case My New Revelation, always originates from the
Absolute Condition and for that reason, it has the most vital and
significant relevance to all in the entire being and existence, and pseudo-
being and pseudo-existence. So, to limit you or your nature to some single
idea, stemming from some isolated specific element of My Nature, would
be to limit My Word or The New Revelation only to that one world or
area in which you originated and where you were placed. In that case,
My Word would become relative and limiting, having very little or no
impact on the rest of My Creation. Do you see the problem with this
situation?
Peter: Yes, very clearly. But what about the possibility of a specific
revelation, relevant only to one specific world or even to one specific
individual?
The Lord Jesus Christ: Well, as you know, Peter, and as it was so
nicely revealed in the First Chapter of the book, Major Ideas of The
New Revelation, such revelations, as well as numerous pseudo-
revelations, occur on a continuous basis. However, as it is obvious from
what was said above, they do not have multiversal significance in the
same way as the ones that come through you, Peter. This factor has to be
continuously emphasized in order to avoid the dangerous spiritual trend
to pronounce something that doesn’t have that meaning and which is
relevant only to that one region or to that one individual. In most
instances, as they occur on planet Zero with some agents of the positive
state, such revelations have a very private and personal connotation and
are applicable only to that single individual.
A good example of such private and intimate revelations, or in this
particular case, conversations with Me, would be the prolific and
beautiful Writings by Dr. Pieter Noomen. Dr. Noomen produced two
volumes of his Writings, in which he recorded many conversations that
he has had with Me. As you noticed while reading them, it was clearly
indicated to him by Me that someone else would have a different
perception, understanding and mode of communication from what he has
experienced. However, it was left to him to decide whether he wanted to
share his Writings with selected friends and individuals. Obviously, the
danger of such sharing — as well as any sharing of experiences that you
all have, is in the fact that some of you who are not blessed with that
kind of ability (after all, before incarnating on planet Zero, for some very
important spiritual reasons, you agreed not to have it!), being that you
are in the human skin — could create a desire on your part to have the
same type of experience and mode of communication that Dr. Noomen
has, or Peter Francuch has, or Lyudmila Savelieva has or some others
have. Because you cannot have the same type of experiences or mode of
communication (this would violate the principle of your origin as
described above), you would have the tendency to be resentful, envious
and/or jealous. In that case, you would completely shut off any ability to
communicate with Me in your own unique manner or to properly
represent the nature of the world from which you incarnated on planet
Zero, the character and nature of which you are supposed to manifest;
and to which you are supposed to translate everything that is happening
on your planet. To end up like that would mean spiritual death for you.
In that case, you would miserably fail in your mission and you would end
up rejecting your true nature, subsequently rejecting My Absolute
Nature, from which, your relative nature had derived. Do you see the
tremendous danger of this situation?
Peter: Most definitely. I have to confess to you that, in the past, I fell
into the same predicament very often — being envious of some of my
friends who were able to visualize and to hear You and talk to You in a
typical human fashion. Please, forgive me for being so arrogant and
inconsiderate in this, or any other respect. Also, may I ask you to further
elaborate on the reasons why this was always the case with me?
The Lord Jesus Christ: Gladly, Peter. And I gladly forgive you. But
you also have to forgive yourself. Now, the reasons: As you remember
from the First Private Conversation recorded in the Corollaries..., it
was stated there that your mode of communicating, transmitting,
understanding and interpreting anything coming from Me, parallels that
of the pseudo-creators. It is a scientific mode — through logic, reasoning
and classification, and similar modes, so inherent in the external
approach of any scientific investigation. Such an approach doesn’t allow
any impositions from an internal or subjective source. Let Me elaborate
on this issue a little further. As you know, Peter, the pseudo-creators are
in search for the Absolute Truth. What is the Absolute Truth? The most
fundamental and most obvious truth in this respect — which at the same
time is very simple and uncomplicated, as well as very clear — is that
the only Absolute Truth is The Lord Jesus Christ, from Whom all life and
everything else originated. This is the spiritual factor of any life. Without
the being and existence of The Lord Jesus Christ, as The Only Absolute
Being, no other beings or existences are possible. This Absolute Truth
will always be absolutely true. No change in this respect is ever
conceivable, to eternity. If you derive all other conclusions from this
indisputable fact, your knowledge and understanding of the structure
and dynamics of life and everything related to it, will be proper and
correct.
However, for the pseudo-creators this was not sufficiently convincing
because it was too simple, obvious and axiomatic. They needed some kind
of objective proof that this was so. Then, how do you go about verifying
the validity that it is so? You develop a methodology of investigation that
will totally differ from anything which had been available up to that
point. You come up with an idea that, in order to verify the truthfulness
of that fundamental premise of life — any life, you need to develop
something that would allow you to discover in an oblique way, what is
not the Absolute Truth. In order to do that, the pseudo-creators
developed a so-called scientific method of verification, based on objective
observation and statistical probabilities; rooted in the quantification of
gathered objective experiences. This method is known in the statistical
language as — rejection of the Null-Hypothesis. In our particular case, it
begins with the statement that there is no Absolute Truth. Once this
statement is made, you need to prove that either it is so, or it is not so.
Consequently, you begin gathering all kinds of information that is not
true or correct. As you are analyzing it, you come to the conclusion that it
is not the Absolute Truth because it is false.
At one point in time, when you have exhausted all possibilities that exist
in this respect, you have no choice, based on your developed methodology
of verification, but to reject your statement that there is no such thing as
Absolute Truth. At this junction of your reasoning process, you will
inevitably come to the conclusion that the original axiomatic, simple and
clear assertion about what the real Absolute Truth is, must be true in an
absolute sense.
Now, Peter, your method of coming to the right conclusions about this
issue parallels this methodology in that you didn’t have any obvious
visual and/or auditory input from anyone, anywhere. You had to rely
solely on your reasoning abilities, logical conclusions and intuition. They
helped you recognize what the truth was not. Only after, but not before,
you established this factor, the verification of your conclusions could be
made from your own within, directly by input from Me. You have to
understand very clearly why this was the case: The pseudo-creators
arrogantly assumed that no one originally fabricated by them, and
especially no human being, could come to the right conclusions about
these issues whatsoever, and discover what was really behind all of the
events surrounding the activation and placing the negative state in
dominance, and the fabrication of the human species with all of their
consequences, outcomes and results.
I want you to imagine, Peter, what would really happen if I were to
appear to you in all My Glory, with pomp and circumstance, so-to-speak,
and begin to proclaim all these things, and what was revealed in
The New Revelation of The Lord Jesus Christ, in a very authoritative
voice. First of all, you would have to accept everything I would tell you on
face value without any possibility to verify it by your own reasoning
process and logic. You wouldn’t even dare try to do that because, after
all, — who are you to quarrel with Me or to dictate to Me the manner in
which I should talk to you or inspire you, or whatever? If I say
something, it must have an absolute validity. Such an approach would be
in gross violation of your freedom of choice and would constitute a
terrible imposition. You would become a slave of the necessity to blindly
believe in something that is not possible or allowed to be verified by any
other mode of verification. What a terrible thing would happen, as the
history of blind faith on your planet so vividly testifies, with all your
ridiculous religious systems! Do I need to remind you of what happened
to Apostle Paul on the road to Damascus, on which he was planning to
persecute and murder My disciples, in his zeal to preserve his own belief
system based on the ritualistic laws of Moses? His so-called miraculous
experience on that road ultimately lead to the betrayal of Christianity
and the reversion to his old self upon his return to the spiritual world, as
it was so nicely described in the third chapter of The New Revelation of
The Lord Jesus Christ. Well, in that case the pseudo-creators would
say, — “Aha, this is too easy; you see, we told you so, he is not able to
discover the real truth on his own as we predicted, because, after all, we
fabricated his human nature and we know he cannot do it. He needs a
potent revelation from You, God Lord Jesus Christ, with all that glory,
pomp and circumstance and unusual experience. How ridiculous! It
doesn’t prove anything. It only proves that we are right and therefore,
really, no such thing as Absolute Truth exists. No human being
fabricated by us would ever be able to discover it by the methods we
developed for that purpose. This is the way we made them to be so that,
really, humans would never be able to discover the real truth.”
Peter: Is there any other aspect to this issue in addition the one related
to the pseudo-creators?
The Lord Jesus Christ: Yes, there is. It relates to the issue that we
talked about earlier this morning — no one is on the same level of
spiritual awareness, understanding, acceptance, application or
implementation of My Word and/or My Nature. The mode and the way
you received the information contained in the books of My New
Revelation are unique and unusual. The most important reason why you
are unable to see and hear on the other levels, as some of you do, relates
to the factor of all-inclusiveness. Remember please, you are in the human
skin. As such, if I were to appear to you in the visual and auditory mode,
it would have to be at your human level because otherwise your human
self could not survive My other type of appearance for a fraction of a
second. Sure, I could do so to please your human ego (or your stinky
human ego, as you like to say it, Peter) but in that case, whatever you
would experience, see or ascertain in that condition would be only at your
human level and not on an all-inclusive multiversal level. And not only
that, but if you were to try to apply anything that I say to you on that
level towards the multiversal level — and such a tendency would be very
strong in your case — you would be conveying only distortions and
falsities to people because, after all, that experience and that statement
were not meant for anyone or anything else and are not applicable to
anyone or anything else. Can you see, Peter, from this explanation, how
dangerous and inappropriate in any respect it would be for anyone, other
than you, to assume the role of transmitter of anything at all coming
from Me, things which are individualized and personalized in their own
way in an all-inclusive multiversal manner?
Peter: Yes, but I am afraid that many individuals will not like it. It will
place me in the role of being self-exclusive, self-righteous and infallible. I
will be most certainly accused of spiritual arrogance and of similar
things.
The Lord Jesus Christ: Your position, role and assignment, Peter, are
to always be a transmitter for Me in an all-inclusive multiversal manner.
This is the way you were created by Me and this is the reason you were
created from Me. However, as pointed out many times before, it doesn’t
mean at all that others with different roles, assignments and positions,
are less valuable, less needed or less useful. They are as equally needed,
useful and valuable as you are. They are needed in their own position, for
their own world and for their own contribution to the cache of knowledge
that they are gathering and translating to the positive state and vice
versa. All of you have to simply accept the fact that you do have a
different role, assignment and position. And if anyone would start to
spread rumors about you or anyone else for that matter, that you are
arrogant, self-righteous, etc., then, of course, that person is laboring
under the influence of the negative state. Don’t be taken in by any of
that. Continue in your valuable mission and in My services.
Now, it would be a good idea to take a break and to continue either later
this afternoon or tomorrow morning with the Third Dialog.
Peter: Thank You very much for this great opportunity to dialog with
You.
The Lord Jesus Christ: You are welcome. It is always a pleasure,
Peter, to dialog with you. You may go to sunbathe now.
Source: DIALOGUES WITH THE LORD JESUS CHRIST PART 1.
