To read aloud
THIRTY SECOND DIALOGUE
January 29, 1999
Peter: I don’t have any specific questions or concerns this morning.
However, I would like to humbly ask if You have anything to convey to
us?
The Lord Jesus Christ: Thank you, Peter, for asking. Yes, I do have
something that I would like to discuss. Most of it will be in the form of a
reminder and restatement. However, I don’t want you to feel as though I
am repeating Myself. Any such restatement has some important
significance, primarily on the other levels and not only on the human
level due to humans’ fragile, unreliable and forgetful memory.
Let’s begin with the issue of the importance of anything that is said
during our dialogs. Sometimes, at first glance from your human
perspective, certain statements could seem to be of minor importance to
you. A good example of such perspective is the first impression that
anyone could have after reading the Thirty First Dialog. Of course, after
carefully rereading its content, as Dan pointed out so aptly, you realize
what a profound, revolutionary meaning it has.
However, let’s assume for a moment that from your human perspective,
some statements in these Dialogs are of minor importance or of no
importance at all. Only humans can conceive them to be that way. Why?
Because, as mentioned many times before, their perspective is grossly
limited in the scope of what they are able to discern, to see, to hear or to
sense. They are limited to perceive only what their external sensory
organs are allowing them to perceive and/or receive. Anything above and
beyond them, completely eludes humans. So, humans are deprived of
perceiving and receiving things that happen elsewhere in other
dimensions.
Consider this: When I, The Lord Jesus Christ, communicate, speak, or
converse with you, Peter, in the process of our dialogs, due to your
position, role and assignment as the transmitter of My New Revelation,
all dimensions in the multiverse, as well as all their respective worlds,
are involved in listening to what I say. Whatever I say, no matter how it
is perceived by your human external mind — whether of minor
importance or of no importance at all — to the perception and scope of
understanding of other non-humans, every single word, every single dot
and every single tittle has tremendous importance and significance. They
look at it not as humans do in their singular ability, limited to their own
external world, but in a multiversal, multilevel and multistructural way.
However, there is another very important point to this issue. It relates to
one extremely important aspect of the currently occurring shift. What is
the impact of these dialogs in particular and the entirety of My New
Revelation in general on the inhabitants of the Zone of Displacement and
on all their respective pseudo-worlds and Hells? This also relates to the
issue of the need for restatements and repetitions.
As you know, Peter, our dialogs are going on in a conversational manner,
like two people sitting down and quietly talking to each other, discussing
various topics of common interest. This is something new not only for
everyone in My Creation and its Multiverse but also for the members of
the negative state in its entirety. Although some elements of this type of
conversation appeared for the first time in the Corollaries..., the
uniqueness of our dialogs is in the fact that no external mediator is used
in this process. I am not using anyone’s vocal cords, mouth or speech to
talk with you as the case was in the Corollaries..., at least in some of
their Updates (Third, Fifteenth, Twentieth and two Private
Conversations). At this time, it all happens in your mind. Even as you
are recording this conversation right now, you can clearly hear Me in
your mind talking to you.
What is the significance of this type or manner of conversing without
directly involving anyone in its process or as it is happening? It is only
Me and you. Everyone else is carefully listening without interruption or
interference. On the other hand, such conversation eludes the members
of the negative state as it happens in the here-and-now. However, as you
carefully reread each Dialog several times, or as Dan of New York very
carefully rereads them several times for the purpose of editing; in that
process, the content of these Dialogs becomes likewise available to them.
However, because of the conversational form of these Dialogs, as you are
rereading them once again, My voice clearly sounds in your mind as
though it is happening here-and-now. This factor is very important, more
important that any of you can imagine. What happens when you are re-
reading them and the totality of all members of the negative state is
hearing the read material? My voice, which they now fully recognize as
the voice of The Lord Jesus Christ, sounds directly in their minds
likewise. It is not as though you are reading it, Peter, or Dan, or any
other reader is reading them, or as though they are reading them in book
form, but it is a direct mind to mind communication in My personal
voice. Because of this monumental factor, no one in the Hells or
elsewhere in the Zone of Displacement, is able to interfere with this
process or impose any distortions on whatever they hear.
This vital and crucial factor builds a final foundation to introduce
everyone in the negative state to the true nature of the positive state
and, most importantly, to My True New Nature. As you know, the
members of the negative state have been kept in thick darkness
regarding My Nature and the nature of My positive state. Yes, they had
My New Revelation and its Updates available to them; but their true
undistorted and non-falsified content was hidden from the common folks
in their domain by the leaders of their respective Hells. Instead, a
rewritten version in which every word was turned into pure falsities and
distortions was presented to them. So, they didn’t have any direct access
to the genuine content of My New Revelation. At that time, whatever
was being transmitted in My New Revelation didn’t sound in their minds
in the form of My Divine Voice. As you know, at that time, the
information contained in My New Revelation needed to be made
available to, and read by the members of My positive state first. In the
meantime, the members of the negative state were kept in darkness
about anything happening anywhere.
However, with the current shift, My positive state is being positioned
directly in the midst of the negative state in a very different mode than it
has been since the time when My outposts were set up in the Hells. This
new mode of positioning is being accomplished by means of these Dialogs
which enable the members of the negative state to hear Me right in their
minds without any interference. Due to this factor, when something in
these Dialogs is being repeated, restated or reiterated, it is done so not
only for your benefit, but primarily and most importantly, for their
benefit. Different regions, different groups and different societies of their
domain are involved in this process at different times. The word ‘times’ is
a very poor approximation of what I am talking about in this respect.
Their different state and positioning allow them to be plugged-in to this
process at a very different level. When you transpose that level to your
human level, at your level it is manifested as a difference in time. Hence
the need to repeat, restate or reiterate from your human level.
The former tendency of the rulers of the Hells to hide from their
followers anything that came from the positive state, subsequently
distorting and falsifying everything they presented to them, has an
analogy to the Catholic Church on your planet. As you know, for many
centuries the Catholic Church prohibited its members from reading the
Bible, under the penalty of expulsion or even a death sentence by fire.
Whenever a priest read anything from the Bible, it was read in Latin so
that the common folks would have no understanding of the read
material. Instead, they were given the Catechism, which contained
nothing but distortions and falsities about My Nature and about
everything else related to the positive state. That was the way the
Catholic Church kept its followers in darkness. No other translations of
the Bible but Latin and Cyrillic were available for a long period of time,
both out of the reach of common folks.
It was not until Luther initiated the Reformation Movement that the
Bible also became available to others and not only to priests. It was
Luther who for the first time translated the Bible into German.
Following his example, gradually, a plethora of translations of the Bible
appeared in other languages. However, even now, the Catholic Church
only grudgingly allows saying mass in their churches in an
understandable language with the reading of the Bible’s verses in the
language of the land. On the other hand, the Pope still says his masses in
Latin. So, as you see, it tells you very clearly who is in charge of the
Catholic Church.
In other non-Catholic denominations of the Christian Churches, the
negative state had to take a totally different approach. Due to the fact
that the forces of the negative state were no longer able to keep humans
and others from reading the Bible in their own language, they
circumvented this problem very effectively and successfully by inducing
humans and others to perceive everything contained in the Bible and
similar so-called Holy Books in an external literal sense. That way,
everything related to the true nature of the negative state, as well as to
the true nature of the positive state and My true Nature, continued to be
hidden from them. As you know, from the spiritual standpoint, the literal
sense has no sense at all. Thus, in the perspective of the forces of the
negative state, no harm was done by allowing various translations of the
Bible to take place. In actuality, they realized the tremendous potentials
which such translations were giving them. The contradictory statements
of the Bible and other similar books were utilized to further dissect, split
and fractionalize all religious systems existing on planet Zero.
However, the current situation is entirely different. The currently
occurring shift allows a totally different approach to all issues of life and
especially to spiritual issues. Because of the form in which these Dialogs
are occurring — the conversational form — even though they are still
being written down for the sake of humans and some others (who the
others are was explained in one of the previous Dialogs), their content,
ideas and whatever they say, sound in My voice directly in everyone’s
mind, without apparent mediation from anyone. As you, Peter, hear Me
responding and talking to you directly in your mind, so is everyone else
in the positive state and in the negative state. And it happens
simultaneously and synchronously with everyone in the positive state at
the very moment we are talking; and in the negative state as you are in
the process of rereading them when My voice sounds in your mind again.
This important phenomenon will also be experienced by every
prospective reader on this planet. Any time you read My responses,
statements, clarifications or elaboration to any questions posed to Me
either by you, Peter, or through you by anyone else, they will sound in
your mind, in My voice, accommodated to the personal, unique and
individualized structure of your mind. Whenever you experience such a
mode of conveyance, at the very same time, everyone present with you
from the region or sphere of the negative state’s influence, will be
hearing it in My voice in their own mind.
The importance of rereading these Dialogs, and subsequently rereading
The New Revelation of The Lord Jesus Christ and its Corollaries...,
over and over, and again and again, is in the fact that every time you do
so, a different group of the members of the negative state will be
attached to you, enabling them to hear what is being said in their own
mind in My voice. The combined reading of all three sources of My New
Revelation is crucial at this point in time. Before this time, no foundation
was laid for undertaking this reading in this mode. Although during your
prior readings of The New Revelation of The Lord Jesus Christ and
its Corollaries..., members of certain groups of the negative state were
also present with you, they read it with you and through you, and in the
process, they didn’t hear My voice in their mind. Because of this factor,
they could interpret the read material either from the position of your
understanding, or from the position of imposition by the hellish
translators who turned it into pure falsities and distortions.
However, at the present time, because of this totally new factor, from
your position of reading these three sources of My New Revelation as My
true representatives, this will enable you to discern My voice in your
mind, so that it is not the read material which is telling you these things,
but it is directly I who is saying them to you in the midst of your own
mind. At the same time, My voice will very clearly reverberate in the
minds of all negative spirits who will be attached to you for that purpose
at each time of your reading. Thus, they will be hearing Me and not you
or anyone else from their domain. Can you see the tremendous
importance of the nature of this shift in this respect? Gradually and
slowly, the members of the negative state in their totality will no longer
be receiving only falsities and distortions — as the case has been up to
this point, but for the very first time they will be receiving the pure
Truth in its undistorted and non-falsified condition. This will be a
monumental accomplishment. As you see from this fact, it will lay the
foundation on which the possibility and potential of everyone’s
conversion in the negative state and the eternal elimination of the
negative state itself, will become an actualized reality.
From this discourse you will also be able to deduce the difference
between your being My agents in the past and being My representatives
in the present. As long as you functioned as My agents from the position
of planet Zero and the negative state in general, it was necessary to
provide the negative state with all pertinent information about any
significant spiritual occurrences by the mode of your external behavior
and input, without My direct tangible involvement, and only in a
peripheral sense. At that time, this was a necessary condition because
your primary function was to provide important information about life in
the negative state and in the human life to the members of the positive
state. At this time however, your role is reversed. Now, as My true
representatives, you are providing information about the nature of the
positive state and My True Nature to the members of the negative state.
For that reason, your reading of the three sources of My New Revelation,
as My representatives, has a totally different significance, meaning and
connotation than at the time you were reading them as My agents. At
this time, this will provide a direct input of its content, ideas and
principles directly into the minds of all members of the negative state in
My personal voice, accommodated to their perceptive and receptive
abilities. Thus, this new condition will completely bypass any possibility
of anyone in the negative state interfering, for the purpose of blocking
anyone’s proper understanding of what they hear and their need to
accept it and apply it. Due to this factor, for the first time, the members
of the negative state will be able to compare the life and the meaning of
the positive state with their own life and with the meaning of the
negative state, which has no meaning. And you know very well, Peter,
where such a comparison will lead. I don’t need to tell you.
Peter: What a beautiful revelation! Thank You so much for it! I am
always surprised to learn how much more exists to be revealed than I
thought existed. Every time I start these Dialogs, I think, ‘this is it.
Nothing more exists that can be revealed’. I am so glad that this is not
the case. My foolish limited human mind always expects some kind of
ending.
The Lord Jesus Christ: This is a good example, Peter, of how things
will be in the positive state, after its full activation. There will never
exist a condition or state in it during which you could come to the
conclusion that, ‘this will be it, and there could be nothing more’! End of
story! Such things are totally inconceivable in My positive state.
I would like to offer, if I may, a few more brief clarifications. One of them
relates to the important issue of change, as related to My Own Nature.
The possibility of the foolish assumption that I am unable to change My
mind or decision, is propagated by the negative state itself, in order to
keep its members forever in its domain. If this assumption were true, no
states, no conditions, no changes, no modifications and nothing else could
ever take place. Everyone and everything would be locked in one
condition, state and situation forever without being able to come out of it
or to modify it. In that case, you may as well commit existential suicide
because there is no hope in changing anything no matter what you do or
don’t do. Do you see the foolishness of this assumption? If I am unable to
change My mind, or whatever, no one else would be able to do it. After
all, from where would anyone be endowed with the ability to choose and
to change if not from Me? From some other source? That would assume
the existence of some other Absolute Being. In that case, the Absolute
State would be nullified. If I don’t have something, how can I give it to
anyone created by Me? After all, I created My sentient entities from
Myself and by Myself. I gave them, into their relative condition, only that
which I contain in My Absolute Nature. If they are able to change their
minds, modify their behaviors and reverse their decisions, that ability is
coming directly from Me, reflecting My Absolute Ability to do so
whenever I deem it appropriate. Do I need to remind you of the story of
Jonah and the big fish?
And finally for today, I would like to remind you of something that was
indicated to you in My New Revelation and was somehow forgotten when
the issue of a possible contradiction between what was said in one of the
previous Dialogs and Chapter 7 of The New Revelation of The Lord
Jesus Christ was raised. It relates to the issue of predictions and their
validity. At the beginning of Chapter One of the same book, at the very
end of page 8 and in pages 9-10, in point 2, as it compares the differences
between the Old Revelation and The New Revelation, it is stated there,
and I quote, ‘The Old Revelation, in its symbolisms and correspondences,
was foretelling the future development of the step initiated by The Lord
Jesus Christ... . On the other hand, The New Revelation deals with the
future only in the sense of the consequences and outcomes of activating the
negative state. They are foreseen only as possibilities that may or may not
materialize themselves.’ It would be a good idea to reread the entire point
No. 2 of that chapter to refresh everyone’s memory. That statement was
made right at the onset of the transmission of My New Revelation
contained in the Big Book, in order to warn every prospective reader not
to fall into a trap or into the habit of expecting everything to happen as it
is being described in the form of various scenarios. They are always given
only as possibilities and not as an immutable absolute necessity for them
to happen that way. Remember this important factor.
In conclusion of this Dialog and in response to some readers’ worries and
guilt that they have stopped reading the Big Book, The New Revelation
of The Lord Jesus Christ and its Corollaries..., because all their time
is presently taken up by reading these Dialogs, I would like to assure
them that reading these Dialogs constitutes reading My New Revelation.
They are My New Revelation likewise. At this point in time, it is a good
idea to concentrate on reading them in order to be totally familiarized
with their content and to set up a condition to implement their ideas in
their personal lives and give the opportunity for the members of the
negative state to hear My voice in their minds while you are doing your
reading and hearing My voice in your mind. Once you are firmly
embedded in the meaning and content of these Dialogs, the reading of
the three sources of My New Revelation should be resumed. The reason
for this need was outlined above. So, this is all I have to say today. Have
a nice day everyone.
Peter: Thank You very much for Your input in all these matters.
Source: DIALOGUES WITH THE LORD JESUS CHRIST PART 1.
