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February 5, 1999
Peter: This morning I feel somewhat frustrated because I still have not
received the edited Thirty Second and Thirty Third Dialogs from Dan. Of
course, one never knows if it is something with the Internet or with E-
mail problems which would cause some delays and the Dialogs might be
lost somewhere in cyberspace. Talking about dependencies, what do You
think about my dependency on Dan for editing, for example, or on anyone
or anything else in this or in any other matter? Then there is the
question about some comments in the Dialogs being possibly incongruous
with the topic addressed. This leads me to the second, more troubling
question: Is there anything at all in any of the Dialogs, when You are
allegedly responding, that is not from You but either from someone else
or from my own imagination, myself putting forth my words or ideas or
concepts or whatever, claiming them to be Yours? It was indicated to me
by one of the readers of the Dialogs that certain words or claims or
behaviors didn’t sound like You.
The Lord Jesus Christ: As you know, Peter, nothing is happening by
sheer accident. Whatever you are experiencing, or whatever others are
experiencing during their reading of these Dialogs, has some important
significance and meaning. It points out some issues that need to be
discussed or brought to your mutual attention. Again, the timeliness
factor is involved; meaning that it is time to address whatever is
troubling you personally or whatever is on other readers’ minds.
Let us begin with your question of being dependent on someone, in this
particular case, on Dan, for editing these Dialogs, and your subsequent
frustration if you don’t receive them on the designated time. First of all,
from a typical human standpoint, this is only an illustration and
confirmation of the fact that a typical human life is vested in mutual
interdependencies. No matter which way you look, there is always
something in your human life that depends on some external factors,
seemingly beyond your control. This is the way it is, and this is what you
agreed to experience when you incarnated into human life. As mentioned
in the previous Dialogs, this is the typical setup of the negative state.
However, as mentioned above, this is the typical human view on this
issue. A totally different connotation exists if you look at it from a typical
spiritual view, or from the view of the positive state. How is the term
‘dependence’ defined in the positive state and, of course, in the negative
state, respectively? What is the meaning of this term in both
conceptualizations? In the negative state, as well as in human life, the
term ‘dependence’ has an entirely different meaning than in the positive
state. In the negative state, this term always denotes that the true life
can be derived only from the external factors which determine all
conditions for such a life to be manifested and actualized. Thus, to be
dependent means to live. And vice versa, to live is to be always
dependent on someone or something outside of you. No other
conceptualization of life, or what life is all about, exists within the frame
of understanding in the negative state and in human life.
On the other hand, in the positive state the term ‘dependence’ is used in
the connotation of being dependent on the Absolute Source of Life — Me,
The Lord Jesus Christ, with the understanding that one cannot be alive
or be in being and existence without My being the Absolute Life and
being Absolutely Alive. Due to the fact that life in everyone is from Me,
and, most importantly, due to the fact that because it is My Life, I am
present in everyone’s life, sustaining that life within them on a
continuous basis. Thus, I am within everyone. This assertion leads to the
inevitable logical conclusion that in the positive state everyone is
dependent only and only on their own unique within where I am always
present with My life, sharing it with each individual. No dependency on
the external factors is conceivable in the positive state.
This statement leads us directly to the positive state’s concept of
‘sharing.’ In the positive state, instead of mutual interdependency for
whatever needs one has, there is a delightful, uplifting, joyous and happy
sharing of everything one is and has without any impositions, demands,
expectations, projections or indebtedness. So, in essence, in the positive
state, the term ‘dependency’ doesn’t exist in the typical human
connotation and understanding. Instead, here you have mutual sharing
whenever it is needed and desirable.
Your frustration, Peter, about the delays, for whatever reasons, enabled
us to discuss this important issue in order to show a clear distinction
between the concept of dependency as conceived in the negative state and
human life, and as conceived and understood by everyone in the positive
state.
Due to the fact that as My true representatives you are now functioning
from the position of the positive state, it is very crucial to recognize this
factor and look upon your situation not as dependency but as a mutual
opportunity to share your responsibilities related to My New Revelation
in general and these Dialogs in particular. At the same time, recognizing
the fact that the forces of the negative state will utilize any of your
physical and/or mental conditions in order to delay or to impede your
important work, as well as to make you feel frustrated and impatient.
So, these states of yours, Peter, are by impositions of the negative state
playing on the human side of your nature in the same manner as they
were playing on Dan’s medical condition. However, as you see from our
conversation about the issues of dependency and sharing, their effort in
this instance was completely nullified by turning it into something useful
and positive. This is a very good illustration of how everything negative
and human in nature, in the lives of My representatives, can be turned
into something very useful and positive. These things will work out just
fine, Peter. Moreover, as mentioned above, your collaborative effort with
Dan gives both of you the opportunity to share your responsibilities in
this respect.
Peter: At this very moment, as we have just finished this discussion
about differences in the conceptualization of the term ‘dependence’ and
‘sharing,’ as it exists in the positive state versus in the negative state, my
telephone rang and surprisingly, Dan was on the phone, letting me know
that he has just E-mailed me both the Thirty Second and Thirty Third
Dialogs. I was very much surprised to hear from him because at this time
of the day, he usually is in deep sleep. He told me that he worked most of
the night on editing. How do you like this so-called coincidence?
The Lord Jesus Christ: Well, Peter, as you know, there are no
coincidences. It was very important for you to address the issue of
dependence and your frustration about it in order to address the
discussed differences. If early in the morning, when you fired up your
computer, and checked your E-mail, you had found the edited Dialogs as
expected by you, you would have never asked Me your question about
this issue. In that case, this discussion would have been bypassed and
you would have gone into something else when choosing the topic of our
conversation. At this point in time, from the spiritual standpoint and the
timeliness in question, it was very important that the above clarification
about the discussed terms be offered right now, this morning. The
spiritual atmosphere in the spiritual world and elsewhere and the nature
of the currently occurring shift, urgently required that this clarification
be given for the benefit of all.
Due to the fact that the presently existing spiritual requirement is such
that it requires a different approach in taking a stand on various
spiritual concepts and terms, and in order to avoid any imposition on My
part, or anyone else’s, it was vital to set up a condition that would give
you an opportunity to ask this particular question and receive this
particular answer directly from Me. If at any time I were to impose My
clarifications on you about anything, and not only about this particular
issue, without your asking Me first to do so by your own free will and
choice, it would be instantly utilized by the forces of the negative state
for the purpose of attacking the conceptualization of the nature of the
positive state.
Please don’t forget, and I am repeating Myself again, that now you are
functioning from the position of the positive state. It signifies that only
positive means are being utilized to convey to you any information about
anything. In the positive state everything is now being offered in a
conversational manner — as far as any explanation or clarification of any
concepts, ideas and terms is concerned. You ask your questions first and
then you get your answers as required and needed. This is the reason
that from your position on planet Zero, being that at the same time you
are spiritually positioned in the positive state, you have to ask your
questions first in order to get any answers from Me. Or if you or any
respective reader don’t have any specific questions, you always ask if I
have anything to add, convey or to share with you at any particular time.
In this respect, your request allows Me to proceed and to clarify or add or
convey to you anything that is needed and timely for the benefit of all.
Due to the fact that it is your, or any respective reader’s request, offered
to Me by your own freedom of choice and free will, My response, even in a
situation like that, doesn’t violate your free will and choice and therefore,
it is in no way by imposition. Otherwise, it would be concluded by the
members of the negative state that no difference exists between them
and the members of the positive state because I am utilizing their
methodology, the methodology of the negative state, by imposing My
answers on you without being asked to do so by you, by any respective
reader or by the members of My positive state.
This is the reason why for some time now, since you had recorded the
Updates in the Corollaries..., you were being prepared very diligently
and with great emphasis to learn to ask your own questions and to get
your own answers. You see, Peter, by learning and doing that, you are
approximating how things are in the positive state, establishing a
foundation on planet Zero from which it can be reunited, once again, with
the positive planet Earth when the time is ripe, becoming its integral
reflection as it used to be before it was separated and moved to a
different dimension.
What is being conveyed to you here as a result of your questions and
concerns, Peter, is extremely important beyond your present grasp of
why it is so. This is the reason why sometimes it is allowed for you to feel
frustrated, doubting, uncertain, anxious and discouraged during the
recording of these Dialogs. These states of mind are being effectively
utilized to lead you toward asking all these questions so that you can get
answers that have tremendously important multiversal significance and
implication. I know very well that these states of mind are not too
pleasant for you to experience but they are the means by which
something very useful can be accomplished for the benefit of all. So, be
patient and endure to the end.
Peter: I’ll do my best. What about the mentioned possible incongruities
in some statements and the possibility that in some cases it is not You
who are talking with me but someone else or that it is my own fantasy?
The Lord Jesus Christ: Of course, this is a very serious allegation. In
some ways it relates to the above discussed issue of how some words,
ideas or concepts are perceived, understood and behaviorally expressed
in the positive state on one side, and in the negative state and human life
on the other side. As you noticed from the above explanation, the same
word or expression can have a totally different meaning if looked upon
from the view of the positive state or from the view of the negative state
or from the typical human view and understanding.
In response to your concerns, as well as the possible concerns of others,
whether it is I Who is always speaking with you at each particular
instance, I can assure you that it is always I, no matter how it may sound
as if it is not I. Of course, as always, it is everyone’s prerogative to accept
it as true or not true. Also, as always, it is each reader’s personal
responsibility to verify this fact through their own intuition, logic,
reasoning process and intellect, or whatever mode is available for them
to accomplish this important task of verification.
Let Me remind you, as well as every reader of these Dialogs, about what
was conveyed to all of you in this respect in the Introduction to The New
Revelation of The Lord Jesus Christ. For very important reasons, I
chose to transmit My New Revelation, Peter, by the modes, manners and
means of your specific thinking, ideas, words, concepts, understanding,
behavior, attitude, lifestyle, and everything else. Because of that, Peter,
the way you think, talk, express yourself, convey your ideas, write or
whatever, is being utilized by Me to the fullest possible extent during our
conversation at the present or during your transmission of My New
Revelation in the past.
On the other hand, very often, as indicated above, the way some of the
readers understand certain concepts or the content of the words — and in
what connotation they are being utilized, or what they really mean — is
totally different from the way they are conceptualized and understood in
the positive state.
Take for example, the word ‘laughter,’ the one that raised so much
concern and led one reader to assume that it didn’t sound like Me
talking. What kind of meaning do humans put into that word? It has
many connotations. It can be simple laughter as the result of hearing
some jokes. It can be the laughter of ridiculing someone or something. It
can be the laughter to hide one’s own embarrassment about someone or
something. It can be an expression of one’s good mood or
accomplishment. It can be the result of having some kind of fun and
many other reasons. So, as you see from these few examples, laughter
can have either a positive or a negative connotation, respectively.
In the positive state, the term ‘laughter’ signifies a state of inner
disposition which gives an opportunity to rejoice about something or
someone. This is the reason that whenever in the Dialogs, or in My New
Revelation in general, this word is used, it signifies a tremendous
delight, pleasure, joy and elation that certain events, behaviors or
explanations are taking place which contribute to the happiness and
learning of everyone involved, at their level.
So, when joyous laughter is being expressed by the members of the
positive state about My statement, which I made in a humanly joking
manner, which said, ‘who would want to agree to become a human?,’ it
gives them a sense of tremendous gratitude, joy, happiness, satisfaction,
delight and elation that someone would really agree to incarnate into
human life for the purpose of providing very important feedback to them
about life in the negative state and on planet Zero. No other connotation
to the term ‘laughter’ exists in the positive state, especially and
particularly in the above mentioned passage.
However, there is another point or two to this issue. If I am using Peter’s
mode of conveyance, expression, language, behavior and everything else
he has, to express My ideas or what I am talking about or how I am
saying what I am saying or how I am behaving; then in that case, to the
outside observer or reader it would naturally sound like Peter is talking,
behaving, etc., wouldn’t it? After all, don’t ever forget that these Dialogs
are taking place in a homely atmosphere, as one member of the family
talks to another one and as when two people are sitting down and having
a good, meaningful, relaxing and quiet conversation about issues of
mutual interest. So, although it would sound to you as though Peter is
the one who is talking and behaving in his manner of behavior; in
actuality, whenever a response to your question is offered, it is I Who
does so in Peter and through Peter.
Why do you think I acquired human nature and incorporated and fused
it into My Absolute Nature, making it Divine, — Divine Human and
Human Divine? Among many other things, for the purpose of being able
to come down to your level, accommodate Myself to be like one of you so
that I could speak with you on an equal footing, so-to-speak, as one equal
individual to another equal individual, using your own language, your
own expressions, your own mode of thinking and perception; and
anything else that you have in this respect; and not as someone remote
out there who is totally incomprehensible, unapproachable and far above
you, with whom you wouldn’t have any hope of being able to establish
any meaningful communication.
At the same time, this mode of communication, as well as being so much
as you are, on your own human level (of course, without any negative
connotation of a typical human nature), establishes an important
foundation, on which your own perception, understanding and
acceptance of My true Nature is not only being built but, at the very
same time, it gives you an opportunity to correct your own prejudices,
biases and expectations about Me and What My true Nature is. When I
speak like you, in this case, like Peter, it may trigger in you your old,
inappropriate, distorted and even false perceptions of My Nature as
derived from your religious, or any other human upbringing. Based on
them, or on your own expectations and projections, you determine and
project your own subjective expectations of how God, I, The Lord Jesus
Christ, should be, how I should behave, what kind of words or
expressions I should use or what kind of entity I am. If My
communication with you, or in this case, with Peter, doesn’t fit within
your own frame of projected expectations, you tend to make the
conclusion that it is impossible that it is I who is speaking because, after
all, The Lord Jesus Christ, Me, would never use such words or
expressions, laughter, behavior or whatever you have.
It is time that as My true representatives on planet Zero, you get rid of
this spiritually dangerous notion about Me or about how I should relate
to you, talk to you, appear to you, etc. The danger of clinging to your own
notion in this respect because it is inappropriate, and in some instances
can even be totally false, gives an opportunity to the forces of the
negative state, especially to the renegades and their minions, to target
you by supporting your notion as correct, so that you would not be able to
establish a proper relationship with the true Me.
What happens here is that by this type of attitude, you open the door to
them in the negative state, and they may be able to convince you that
these Dialogs, and consequently My entire New Revelation, are not from
Me, and that I would never speak like that because, after all, I am an
Almighty God Who could never lower Himself (I am purposefully
omitting ‘Herself’) to the level of the stinky human perception or
understanding and Who could never be able to accommodate Himself to
the human level of life.
So, in some ways, you could end up like some of My so-called disciples on
planet Zero during My incarnation there, who were not able to stand
hearing Me talk about eating My flesh and drinking My blood. Taking it
literally, they concluded that I was some kind of crazy guy and not the
true Son of God, as I was claiming to be. For that reason, they fell away
from Me and from My other disciples and no longer walked with Me.
The members of the negative state, and especially the renegades, would
like nothing better than to see you end up exactly like those so-called
disciples of Mine did. In order to prevent you from such a horrid destiny,
sometimes it is very necessary to purposefully use some concepts, or
words, or behavioral expressions, which in your view may be offensive or
incongruous, but which are giving you an opportunity to make
corrections in your inappropriate expectations and projections of your
own personal ideas of how I should behave, act, talk, relate, or whatever.
Whenever there is a need to use them, or whenever it is perceived that
some remnants of your old, inappropriate or even false perception of Me,
in particular, and of the reality of the positive state, in general, is still
present in you or that you are laboring under them, it would be
necessary to continue using them in order to bring them to your
attention and give you a chance to amend them.
So, don’t be upset about them and don’t fall into a trap by the renegades,
or whoever in the negative state, in thinking that it is not I who is
talking or joyously laughing with everyone else in the positive state.
Allow Me, please, sometimes to be also as you are — in your purely
positive but, nevertheless, human connotation. It gives Me great
pleasure to occasionally come to your level and be like you are. Don’t
deny Me this pleasure by your own subjective expectations and
projections.
Of course, as always, it is entirely up to you, up to your own freedom of
choice to accept Me in this mode of My chosen expressions of being like
you or to reject Me. I will fully respect your choice in this matter, as well
as in any other matters, without being rejective, judgmental or
condemning you for any of your choices.
Peter: Thank You for this explanation and reassurance. I needed that.
Now, I would like to offer a question on behalf of Pearl McCallum of La
Jolla, California. As you know, she volunteers her time working at the
San Diego Hospice with the terminally ill and dying individuals.
Naturally, in her position, she would have a question related to the issue
of euthanasia and physician assisted suicide in the case of terminally ill,
suffering people. I join her in her request for Your clarification on this
issue, and I would like to add to it the question about capital
punishment. Her question is also whether this situation may lead some
people to commit assisted suicide without their prior agreement to do so
before incarnating on planet Zero; and whether laws should be passed
permitting physician assisted suicide as in Oregon, for example; as well
as the situation with Dr. Kevorkian who was the first one in this country
to help terminally ill people commit suicide.
The Lord Jesus Christ: First of all, from the onset of answering both of
your questions, let Me state very clearly: It is an utter impossibility for
anyone to do, to experience or to agree to anything without prior
agreement before incarnating on planet Zero, including assisted suicide.
This fact was already emphasized very strongly in Update 3 of the
Corollaries... . It was also pointed out there at that time that an
agreement was also made to agree to experience something which was
not originally included in the initial agreement but that would be
necessary to experience, illustrate and demonstrate, should such need
arise or be required during one’s tour of duty in human life on planet
Zero. Such an agreement, which included this important clause, was a
necessary arrangement in foresight of the many important shifts that
would be taking place during one’s life on planet Zero that would require
accepting additional assignments and duties in this respect.
This statement relates particularly to modern times, the times in which
you live, because it is the most crucial and decisive time in the history of
humankind. A few decades ago, it would have been unthinkable to talk
about or consider anything even remotely approximating something like
assisted suicide. Those were different times, requiring a different
approach to human life and events taking place on planet Zero. The
illustrative phase of human life was in full swing, so-to-speak. Under
those conditions, it was necessary to consider human life as something
sacred, needed to be preserved by all means. Therefore, in some States,
even a regular non-assisted suicide or attempted suicide, was considered
a felony and one could get a prison term for trying to commit suicide.
However, as the illustrative phase of the nature of human life is coming
to its finale and ending, and as the negative state’s condensation is
accomplishing its final degree and is in its final phase of pseudo-winning
on planet Zero, it is necessary to take a totally different approach to
understanding what human life is all about.
As you know, Peter, many religions, (especially Catholics) in their
dogmatic and fanatical approach toward human life, and in their
hypocritical emphasis on the need to preserve human life by all means,
no matter what, were utilized very effectively by the negative state to
proclaim human life as something unusual and sacred that has the only
true value in comparison with any other type of life — as though no other
life is conceivable or possible. This is in total contradiction to their own
teachings about life in the heavens and the hells — hence their
hypocrisy. This consideration was permitted to flourish in order to give a
chance or opportunity for important lessons to be learned by all sentient
entities in being and existence about the nature of a life that didn’t
initially originate in Me and My positive state.
As mentioned previously in these Dialogs, these lessons are now in the
process of completion. Very soon, nothing else will remain to be learned
about this type of life. For that reason, preparations are being made to
end the illustrative phase of human life and to change it into a non-
illustrative life, chosen as an ultimate choice — which is the pseudo-
winning of the negative state.
Whenever something like this is about to happen, it is preceded by
reevaluating the meaning of human life, leading to the very unpleasant
awareness that not only is it not a life that is the only one valuable and
possible, but the only one which is the least valuable and meaningless,
and the only one that doesn’t make any sense in its ultimate expression.
This awareness in human consciousness leads to a very strong
realization that human life is actually full of suffering, misery and
unhappiness and, in essence, it is not a true life. Once you arrive at this
realization, it is necessary that some volunteers on planet Zero agree to
illustrate this factor by becoming terminally ill solely for this purpose, by
which, they justify their need to seek out a physician for assisted suicide.
At the same time, this realization and conclusion about human life may
lead some individuals either to a total denial that any other meaningful
life exists, and therefore, that there is no reason to continue in this ‘fool’s
joke’ called human life, or that there must be some other different life
which is meaningful, fulfilling, satisfying and real, and therefore, is a
true life.
However, there is another point to this issue. Take for example, humans
who are in a coma and who, in actuality don’t live but vegetate without
any awareness, and whose breathing is maintained only by artificial
external machines. Is it possible to call such a condition, life and living?
From the true spiritual standpoint, what is this situation telling you?
There are basically two things that are clearly discernable from this
situation. One, the negative state is making an all-out effort to preserve
its life in any human no matter what and no matter by what means. It
desperately clings to this type of life, knowing very well that it is
ultimately dying. It is only a matter of time when it will eternally die.
But nevertheless, it is in the process of dying. This unpleasant awareness
leads the negative state toward inventing all kinds of artificial, external
means, such as you see in hospitals’ so-called life support machines, for
the purpose of sustaining life in the human body. This is a metaphorical
depiction of the situation that exists with the ultimate destiny of the
pseudo-life of the negative state and its human life.
Two, from the standpoint of the members of the positive state’s
understanding of this situation, any life which is founded on the
external, non-spiritual or false spiritual factors, in its essence and
substance, is nothing more than what they can see in the condition of
someone whose bodily life is supported by external artificial means.
Thus, the conclusion, based on such experiences, is very clear: The life of
the negative state and its human life, based on these external premises
and factors, is a life which is artificial, meaningless, futile and void of
any true reality, leading nowhere but to what the mentioned illustrative
condition of the comatose individual is. In that case, it is not a true life
and therefore, it should never be chosen as an alternative to the life of
the positive state. The outcome of this illustration gives everyone a clear
living answer about what shouldn’t ever be chosen by anyone as an
ultimate choice.
However, as mentioned above and before, this illustrative phase of
human life is in the process of ending. The ending factor of the human
situation releases certain energies which make it possible to take a
different approach toward human suffering and the issue of dying.
Because the human unconsciousness is aware of this factor, it allows the
initiation of considering the possibility and feasibility of ending a human
life, should it find itself in a condition of extreme suffering, terminal
illnesses, comatose conditions and the artificial maintenance of bodily life
by all those external machines.
This is the reason why in the last few years you have been hearing and
experiencing all kinds of arguments for and against assisted suicide,
ending bodily life by switching off all those machines and by other
similar means. And not only that, but because of this awareness,
nowadays the hospitals require, or at least strongly recommend, that you
obtain some kind of legal document that would allow them to take you off
those machines should it come to such a condition in your own life. All
these arguments and requirements are only a reflection of the state of
affairs that have currently established themselves in human life on
planet Zero, which have never been experienced before. They herald an
entirely new situation and understanding into which humanity as a
whole is being placed. They precede the ending of the negative state and
its typical human life.
Because of these important factors, in answering Pearl’s question from
the purely spiritual standpoint, yes, it is appropriate to have such human
laws which would permit you to terminate bodily life under well-defined
guidelines in order to prevent any abuse or misuse in this respect. As you
know, anything in human life can and may be abused and misused. This
is how human life was structured. For that reason, as long as they are in
human life, in the life of ultimate externals, they need to have such laws
which would regulate how things should be done in this respect.
You may draw the same conclusion about discontinuing life support
machines on someone who is in an irreversible coma or who only
vegetates. In these particular cases you have to be aware that, in
actuality, no true life of an internal nature exists in individuals who are
in that condition. It is a pseudo-life, a caricature of the true life supplied
from the externals by artificial machines.
As far as Dr. Kevorkian is concerned, he is an embodiment and
representation of this new situation with human life on planet Zero and
its ending phase. He volunteered to be a pioneer in this respect. His
endeavors reflect the need to terminate the negative state and its human
life due to conditions which are miserable, sick, decaying, rotting and full
of suffering, as reflected in all those terminal illnesses, so typically
human.
What you have to understand in this respect — and let Me tell you
something which will be very difficult for some of you to accept — is that
in the present state of affairs with the typical human life, there is no
longer anything positive about the way human life is being lived and
manifested. As of now, as of this date, as these words are being recorded,
human life, in all its aspects, has been completely and totally subsumed
by the forces of the negative state. This situation reflects the reality that
the negative state is in its final phase of pseudo-winning on planet Zero.
As you know, Peter, the pseudo-winning of the negative state on your
planet has several major phases. It proceeds in certain steps, each step
reflecting a further deterioration of all human systems, values, style of
life and relationships. If you evaluate the situation on planet Zero from
the position of these phases, then the negative state actually has already
pseudo-won on your planet. However, from the position of completing
this process, the positioning of the entirety of the negative state, in all its
aspects, cannot take place in a simultaneous manner or at the very same
time. If it were to try to do that, no one could survive the totality of its
manifestation for a fraction of a second. In that case, the negative state
would lose on all fronts, so-to-speak, and could not complete the entirety
of its purpose for being activated and put into the process of
manifestation in the first place. There would be no one left to exemplify
the nature of its pseudo-life. Due to this fact, some further, more
important lessons could not be learned and therefore, the full activation
of the life of the positive state could never commence.
For these important reasons, the negative state’s full pseudo-winning on
planet Zero has to be in several phases. There are twelve such phases.
Each phase, from the position of the space-time continuum, as reflected
on your planet, takes a certain time. As mentioned above, you are now at
the beginning of the very last phase of the negative state’s pseudo-
winning on your planet. How long in terms of your time this phase will
take, cannot be revealed. The only thing that can be said about it is that
it will be the longest time as compared to all other phases. The reason
why this phase needs a much longer time than others, is because in this
phase the nature of the negative state is revealed in its utmost and
ultimate evil, putrid, despicable and ruthless condition. In order to
survive it, you need to release this nature in bits and pieces, so-to-speak.
This way, it gives everyone on planet Zero enough time to adjust to this
phase without any danger of succumbing to its overwhelming,
insurmountable and unbearable manifestation.
So, this is the reason why it was mentioned above that nothing exists in
human life any longer that would have any positive connotation. The
only exception to this rule is the presence of My representatives on this
planet. However, because as of recently they are functioning solely from
the position of the positive state, they are no longer considered to be part
of human life proper. Although they still have a human body on them,
their spirits and souls are residing directly in the positive state. From
the position of their bodies, My representatives will continue to
experience the typical human emotions, states and conditions but these
will no longer be able to deter them from whatever they are to do for Me
on planet Zero. The establishment of this current situation on planet
Zero and in human life, and the realization of these facts in the human
unconsciousness, as well as in its consciousness, was preceded, and is
now embodied in human life by the factor of assisted suicides by
physicians, by the passage of the law in Oregon permitting such
assistance and by giving permission to physicians to discontinue life
support machines from terminally ill individuals. These factors are all
illustrations and reflections of the fact that life in human life on planet
Zero, and the way it is proceeding at the present state of affairs, is no
longer tenable or tolerable.
In answering your question, Peter, about capital punishment for
individuals who have committed hideous crimes, it is obvious that they
agreed, before incarnating on planet Zero, to this mode of departure and
then entering the other life, after human life. This is one of the many
choices in human life that need to be illustrated and demonstrated
concerning the consequences, outcomes and results of a behavior that has
no place or conception in the positive state. In fact, the death sentence
illustrates the ultimate expression of the negativity which is imbued in
the life of the negative state and its human life, leading ultimately to the
loss of life. This is an important warning that unless one amends one’s
ways, that is to say, unless everyone in the negative state and in human
life chooses to recede from their pseudo-life and convert to the positive
state, it may result in a permanent loss of life as depicted in the death
sentence on your planet. In some ways, the agreement to illustrate such
a mode of losing life through the death sentence, serves as a deterrent
from this to ever happen in an eternal sense. Therefore, such sentences
are permitted to take place for the purpose of this important and crucial
illustration and warning. Their justification is rooted in this meaning. It
is not as though I will any of what was outlined here and above, but,
certain things are permitted to happen in order to accomplish this
ultimate goal for the sake of the salvation of all. Remember that.
Peter: Thank You so much for granting us these meaningful
explanations. Is there anything else for today?
The Lord Jesus Christ: It was a pleasure, Peter. And no, this will be
all for today. I hope Pearl will be satisfied with these answers. Have a
nice and pleasant day.
Source: DIALOGUES WITH THE LORD JESUS CHRIST PART 1.