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THIRTY FIFTH DIALOGUE

February 5, 1999


Peter: This morning I feel somewhat frustrated because I still have not received the edited Thirty Second and Thirty Third Dialogs from Dan. Of course, one never knows if it is something with the Internet or with E- mail problems which would cause some delays and the Dialogs might be lost somewhere in cyberspace. Talking about dependencies, what do You think about my dependency on Dan for editing, for example, or on anyone or anything else in this or in any other matter? Then there is the question about some comments in the Dialogs being possibly incongruous with the topic addressed. This leads me to the second, more troubling question: Is there anything at all in any of the Dialogs, when You are allegedly responding, that is not from You but either from someone else or from my own imagination, myself putting forth my words or ideas or concepts or whatever, claiming them to be Yours? It was indicated to me by one of the readers of the Dialogs that certain words or claims or behaviors didn’t sound like You.

The Lord Jesus Christ: As you know, Peter, nothing is happening by sheer accident. Whatever you are experiencing, or whatever others are experiencing during their reading of these Dialogs, has some important significance and meaning. It points out some issues that need to be discussed or brought to your mutual attention. Again, the timeliness factor is involved; meaning that it is time to address whatever is troubling you personally or whatever is on other readers’ minds.

Let us begin with your question of being dependent on someone, in this particular case, on Dan, for editing these Dialogs, and your subsequent frustration if you don’t receive them on the designated time. First of all, from a typical human standpoint, this is only an illustration and confirmation of the fact that a typical human life is vested in mutual interdependencies. No matter which way you look, there is always something in your human life that depends on some external factors, seemingly beyond your control. This is the way it is, and this is what you agreed to experience when you incarnated into human life. As mentioned in the previous Dialogs, this is the typical setup of the negative state.

However, as mentioned above, this is the typical human view on this issue. A totally different connotation exists if you look at it from a typical spiritual view, or from the view of the positive state. How is the term ‘dependence’ defined in the positive state and, of course, in the negative state, respectively? What is the meaning of this term in both conceptualizations? In the negative state, as well as in human life, the term ‘dependence’ has an entirely different meaning than in the positive state. In the negative state, this term always denotes that the true life can be derived only from the external factors which determine all conditions for such a life to be manifested and actualized. Thus, to be dependent means to live. And vice versa, to live is to be always dependent on someone or something outside of you. No other conceptualization of life, or what life is all about, exists within the frame of understanding in the negative state and in human life.

On the other hand, in the positive state the term ‘dependence’ is used in the connotation of being dependent on the Absolute Source of Life — Me, The Lord Jesus Christ, with the understanding that one cannot be alive or be in being and existence without My being the Absolute Life and being Absolutely Alive. Due to the fact that life in everyone is from Me, and, most importantly, due to the fact that because it is My Life, I am present in everyone’s life, sustaining that life within them on a continuous basis. Thus, I am within everyone. This assertion leads to the inevitable logical conclusion that in the positive state everyone is dependent only and only on their own unique within where I am always present with My life, sharing it with each individual. No dependency on the external factors is conceivable in the positive state.

This statement leads us directly to the positive state’s concept of ‘sharing.’ In the positive state, instead of mutual interdependency for whatever needs one has, there is a delightful, uplifting, joyous and happy sharing of everything one is and has without any impositions, demands, expectations, projections or indebtedness. So, in essence, in the positive state, the term ‘dependency’ doesn’t exist in the typical human connotation and understanding. Instead, here you have mutual sharing whenever it is needed and desirable.

Your frustration, Peter, about the delays, for whatever reasons, enabled us to discuss this important issue in order to show a clear distinction between the concept of dependency as conceived in the negative state and human life, and as conceived and understood by everyone in the positive state.

Due to the fact that as My true representatives you are now functioning from the position of the positive state, it is very crucial to recognize this factor and look upon your situation not as dependency but as a mutual opportunity to share your responsibilities related to My New Revelation in general and these Dialogs in particular. At the same time, recognizing the fact that the forces of the negative state will utilize any of your physical and/or mental conditions in order to delay or to impede your important work, as well as to make you feel frustrated and impatient.

So, these states of yours, Peter, are by impositions of the negative state playing on the human side of your nature in the same manner as they were playing on Dan’s medical condition. However, as you see from our conversation about the issues of dependency and sharing, their effort in this instance was completely nullified by turning it into something useful and positive. This is a very good illustration of how everything negative and human in nature, in the lives of My representatives, can be turned into something very useful and positive. These things will work out just fine, Peter. Moreover, as mentioned above, your collaborative effort with Dan gives both of you the opportunity to share your responsibilities in this respect.

Peter: At this very moment, as we have just finished this discussion about differences in the conceptualization of the term ‘dependence’ and ‘sharing,’ as it exists in the positive state versus in the negative state, my telephone rang and surprisingly, Dan was on the phone, letting me know that he has just E-mailed me both the Thirty Second and Thirty Third Dialogs. I was very much surprised to hear from him because at this time of the day, he usually is in deep sleep. He told me that he worked most of the night on editing. How do you like this so-called coincidence?

The Lord Jesus Christ: Well, Peter, as you know, there are no coincidences. It was very important for you to address the issue of dependence and your frustration about it in order to address the discussed differences. If early in the morning, when you fired up your computer, and checked your E-mail, you had found the edited Dialogs as expected by you, you would have never asked Me your question about this issue. In that case, this discussion would have been bypassed and you would have gone into something else when choosing the topic of our conversation. At this point in time, from the spiritual standpoint and the timeliness in question, it was very important that the above clarification about the discussed terms be offered right now, this morning. The spiritual atmosphere in the spiritual world and elsewhere and the nature of the currently occurring shift, urgently required that this clarification be given for the benefit of all.

Due to the fact that the presently existing spiritual requirement is such that it requires a different approach in taking a stand on various spiritual concepts and terms, and in order to avoid any imposition on My part, or anyone else’s, it was vital to set up a condition that would give you an opportunity to ask this particular question and receive this particular answer directly from Me. If at any time I were to impose My clarifications on you about anything, and not only about this particular issue, without your asking Me first to do so by your own free will and choice, it would be instantly utilized by the forces of the negative state for the purpose of attacking the conceptualization of the nature of the positive state.

Please don’t forget, and I am repeating Myself again, that now you are functioning from the position of the positive state. It signifies that only positive means are being utilized to convey to you any information about anything. In the positive state everything is now being offered in a conversational manner — as far as any explanation or clarification of any concepts, ideas and terms is concerned. You ask your questions first and then you get your answers as required and needed. This is the reason that from your position on planet Zero, being that at the same time you are spiritually positioned in the positive state, you have to ask your questions first in order to get any answers from Me. Or if you or any respective reader don’t have any specific questions, you always ask if I have anything to add, convey or to share with you at any particular time. In this respect, your request allows Me to proceed and to clarify or add or convey to you anything that is needed and timely for the benefit of all. Due to the fact that it is your, or any respective reader’s request, offered to Me by your own freedom of choice and free will, My response, even in a situation like that, doesn’t violate your free will and choice and therefore, it is in no way by imposition. Otherwise, it would be concluded by the members of the negative state that no difference exists between them and the members of the positive state because I am utilizing their methodology, the methodology of the negative state, by imposing My answers on you without being asked to do so by you, by any respective reader or by the members of My positive state.

This is the reason why for some time now, since you had recorded the Updates in the Corollaries..., you were being prepared very diligently and with great emphasis to learn to ask your own questions and to get your own answers. You see, Peter, by learning and doing that, you are approximating how things are in the positive state, establishing a foundation on planet Zero from which it can be reunited, once again, with the positive planet Earth when the time is ripe, becoming its integral reflection as it used to be before it was separated and moved to a different dimension.

What is being conveyed to you here as a result of your questions and concerns, Peter, is extremely important beyond your present grasp of why it is so. This is the reason why sometimes it is allowed for you to feel frustrated, doubting, uncertain, anxious and discouraged during the recording of these Dialogs. These states of mind are being effectively utilized to lead you toward asking all these questions so that you can get answers that have tremendously important multiversal significance and implication. I know very well that these states of mind are not too pleasant for you to experience but they are the means by which something very useful can be accomplished for the benefit of all. So, be patient and endure to the end.

Peter: I’ll do my best. What about the mentioned possible incongruities in some statements and the possibility that in some cases it is not You who are talking with me but someone else or that it is my own fantasy?

The Lord Jesus Christ: Of course, this is a very serious allegation. In some ways it relates to the above discussed issue of how some words, ideas or concepts are perceived, understood and behaviorally expressed in the positive state on one side, and in the negative state and human life on the other side. As you noticed from the above explanation, the same word or expression can have a totally different meaning if looked upon from the view of the positive state or from the view of the negative state or from the typical human view and understanding.

In response to your concerns, as well as the possible concerns of others, whether it is I Who is always speaking with you at each particular instance, I can assure you that it is always I, no matter how it may sound as if it is not I. Of course, as always, it is everyone’s prerogative to accept it as true or not true. Also, as always, it is each reader’s personal responsibility to verify this fact through their own intuition, logic, reasoning process and intellect, or whatever mode is available for them to accomplish this important task of verification.

Let Me remind you, as well as every reader of these Dialogs, about what was conveyed to all of you in this respect in the Introduction to The New Revelation of The Lord Jesus Christ. For very important reasons, I chose to transmit My New Revelation, Peter, by the modes, manners and means of your specific thinking, ideas, words, concepts, understanding, behavior, attitude, lifestyle, and everything else. Because of that, Peter, the way you think, talk, express yourself, convey your ideas, write or whatever, is being utilized by Me to the fullest possible extent during our conversation at the present or during your transmission of My New Revelation in the past.

On the other hand, very often, as indicated above, the way some of the readers understand certain concepts or the content of the words — and in what connotation they are being utilized, or what they really mean — is totally different from the way they are conceptualized and understood in the positive state.

Take for example, the word ‘laughter,’ the one that raised so much concern and led one reader to assume that it didn’t sound like Me talking. What kind of meaning do humans put into that word? It has many connotations. It can be simple laughter as the result of hearing some jokes. It can be the laughter of ridiculing someone or something. It can be the laughter to hide one’s own embarrassment about someone or something. It can be an expression of one’s good mood or accomplishment. It can be the result of having some kind of fun and many other reasons. So, as you see from these few examples, laughter can have either a positive or a negative connotation, respectively.

In the positive state, the term ‘laughter’ signifies a state of inner disposition which gives an opportunity to rejoice about something or someone. This is the reason that whenever in the Dialogs, or in My New Revelation in general, this word is used, it signifies a tremendous delight, pleasure, joy and elation that certain events, behaviors or explanations are taking place which contribute to the happiness and learning of everyone involved, at their level.

So, when joyous laughter is being expressed by the members of the positive state about My statement, which I made in a humanly joking manner, which said, ‘who would want to agree to become a human?,’ it gives them a sense of tremendous gratitude, joy, happiness, satisfaction, delight and elation that someone would really agree to incarnate into human life for the purpose of providing very important feedback to them about life in the negative state and on planet Zero. No other connotation to the term ‘laughter’ exists in the positive state, especially and particularly in the above mentioned passage.

However, there is another point or two to this issue. If I am using Peter’s mode of conveyance, expression, language, behavior and everything else he has, to express My ideas or what I am talking about or how I am saying what I am saying or how I am behaving; then in that case, to the outside observer or reader it would naturally sound like Peter is talking, behaving, etc., wouldn’t it? After all, don’t ever forget that these Dialogs are taking place in a homely atmosphere, as one member of the family talks to another one and as when two people are sitting down and having a good, meaningful, relaxing and quiet conversation about issues of mutual interest. So, although it would sound to you as though Peter is the one who is talking and behaving in his manner of behavior; in actuality, whenever a response to your question is offered, it is I Who does so in Peter and through Peter.

Why do you think I acquired human nature and incorporated and fused it into My Absolute Nature, making it Divine, — Divine Human and Human Divine? Among many other things, for the purpose of being able to come down to your level, accommodate Myself to be like one of you so that I could speak with you on an equal footing, so-to-speak, as one equal individual to another equal individual, using your own language, your own expressions, your own mode of thinking and perception; and anything else that you have in this respect; and not as someone remote out there who is totally incomprehensible, unapproachable and far above you, with whom you wouldn’t have any hope of being able to establish any meaningful communication.

At the same time, this mode of communication, as well as being so much as you are, on your own human level (of course, without any negative connotation of a typical human nature), establishes an important foundation, on which your own perception, understanding and acceptance of My true Nature is not only being built but, at the very same time, it gives you an opportunity to correct your own prejudices, biases and expectations about Me and What My true Nature is. When I speak like you, in this case, like Peter, it may trigger in you your old, inappropriate, distorted and even false perceptions of My Nature as derived from your religious, or any other human upbringing. Based on them, or on your own expectations and projections, you determine and project your own subjective expectations of how God, I, The Lord Jesus Christ, should be, how I should behave, what kind of words or expressions I should use or what kind of entity I am. If My communication with you, or in this case, with Peter, doesn’t fit within your own frame of projected expectations, you tend to make the conclusion that it is impossible that it is I who is speaking because, after all, The Lord Jesus Christ, Me, would never use such words or expressions, laughter, behavior or whatever you have.

It is time that as My true representatives on planet Zero, you get rid of this spiritually dangerous notion about Me or about how I should relate to you, talk to you, appear to you, etc. The danger of clinging to your own notion in this respect because it is inappropriate, and in some instances can even be totally false, gives an opportunity to the forces of the negative state, especially to the renegades and their minions, to target you by supporting your notion as correct, so that you would not be able to establish a proper relationship with the true Me.

What happens here is that by this type of attitude, you open the door to them in the negative state, and they may be able to convince you that these Dialogs, and consequently My entire New Revelation, are not from Me, and that I would never speak like that because, after all, I am an Almighty God Who could never lower Himself (I am purposefully omitting ‘Herself’) to the level of the stinky human perception or understanding and Who could never be able to accommodate Himself to the human level of life.

So, in some ways, you could end up like some of My so-called disciples on planet Zero during My incarnation there, who were not able to stand hearing Me talk about eating My flesh and drinking My blood. Taking it literally, they concluded that I was some kind of crazy guy and not the true Son of God, as I was claiming to be. For that reason, they fell away from Me and from My other disciples and no longer walked with Me.

The members of the negative state, and especially the renegades, would like nothing better than to see you end up exactly like those so-called disciples of Mine did. In order to prevent you from such a horrid destiny, sometimes it is very necessary to purposefully use some concepts, or words, or behavioral expressions, which in your view may be offensive or incongruous, but which are giving you an opportunity to make corrections in your inappropriate expectations and projections of your own personal ideas of how I should behave, act, talk, relate, or whatever. Whenever there is a need to use them, or whenever it is perceived that some remnants of your old, inappropriate or even false perception of Me, in particular, and of the reality of the positive state, in general, is still present in you or that you are laboring under them, it would be necessary to continue using them in order to bring them to your attention and give you a chance to amend them.

So, don’t be upset about them and don’t fall into a trap by the renegades, or whoever in the negative state, in thinking that it is not I who is talking or joyously laughing with everyone else in the positive state. Allow Me, please, sometimes to be also as you are — in your purely positive but, nevertheless, human connotation. It gives Me great pleasure to occasionally come to your level and be like you are. Don’t deny Me this pleasure by your own subjective expectations and projections.

Of course, as always, it is entirely up to you, up to your own freedom of choice to accept Me in this mode of My chosen expressions of being like you or to reject Me. I will fully respect your choice in this matter, as well as in any other matters, without being rejective, judgmental or condemning you for any of your choices.

Peter: Thank You for this explanation and reassurance. I needed that. Now, I would like to offer a question on behalf of Pearl McCallum of La Jolla, California. As you know, she volunteers her time working at the San Diego Hospice with the terminally ill and dying individuals.

Naturally, in her position, she would have a question related to the issue of euthanasia and physician assisted suicide in the case of terminally ill, suffering people. I join her in her request for Your clarification on this issue, and I would like to add to it the question about capital punishment. Her question is also whether this situation may lead some people to commit assisted suicide without their prior agreement to do so before incarnating on planet Zero; and whether laws should be passed permitting physician assisted suicide as in Oregon, for example; as well as the situation with Dr. Kevorkian who was the first one in this country to help terminally ill people commit suicide.

The Lord Jesus Christ: First of all, from the onset of answering both of your questions, let Me state very clearly: It is an utter impossibility for anyone to do, to experience or to agree to anything without prior agreement before incarnating on planet Zero, including assisted suicide. This fact was already emphasized very strongly in Update 3 of the Corollaries... . It was also pointed out there at that time that an agreement was also made to agree to experience something which was not originally included in the initial agreement but that would be necessary to experience, illustrate and demonstrate, should such need arise or be required during one’s tour of duty in human life on planet Zero. Such an agreement, which included this important clause, was a necessary arrangement in foresight of the many important shifts that would be taking place during one’s life on planet Zero that would require accepting additional assignments and duties in this respect.

This statement relates particularly to modern times, the times in which you live, because it is the most crucial and decisive time in the history of humankind. A few decades ago, it would have been unthinkable to talk about or consider anything even remotely approximating something like assisted suicide. Those were different times, requiring a different approach to human life and events taking place on planet Zero. The illustrative phase of human life was in full swing, so-to-speak. Under those conditions, it was necessary to consider human life as something sacred, needed to be preserved by all means. Therefore, in some States, even a regular non-assisted suicide or attempted suicide, was considered a felony and one could get a prison term for trying to commit suicide.

However, as the illustrative phase of the nature of human life is coming to its finale and ending, and as the negative state’s condensation is accomplishing its final degree and is in its final phase of pseudo-winning on planet Zero, it is necessary to take a totally different approach to understanding what human life is all about.

As you know, Peter, many religions, (especially Catholics) in their dogmatic and fanatical approach toward human life, and in their hypocritical emphasis on the need to preserve human life by all means, no matter what, were utilized very effectively by the negative state to proclaim human life as something unusual and sacred that has the only true value in comparison with any other type of life — as though no other life is conceivable or possible. This is in total contradiction to their own teachings about life in the heavens and the hells — hence their hypocrisy. This consideration was permitted to flourish in order to give a chance or opportunity for important lessons to be learned by all sentient entities in being and existence about the nature of a life that didn’t initially originate in Me and My positive state.

As mentioned previously in these Dialogs, these lessons are now in the process of completion. Very soon, nothing else will remain to be learned about this type of life. For that reason, preparations are being made to end the illustrative phase of human life and to change it into a non- illustrative life, chosen as an ultimate choice — which is the pseudo- winning of the negative state.

Whenever something like this is about to happen, it is preceded by reevaluating the meaning of human life, leading to the very unpleasant awareness that not only is it not a life that is the only one valuable and possible, but the only one which is the least valuable and meaningless, and the only one that doesn’t make any sense in its ultimate expression. This awareness in human consciousness leads to a very strong realization that human life is actually full of suffering, misery and unhappiness and, in essence, it is not a true life. Once you arrive at this realization, it is necessary that some volunteers on planet Zero agree to illustrate this factor by becoming terminally ill solely for this purpose, by which, they justify their need to seek out a physician for assisted suicide.

At the same time, this realization and conclusion about human life may lead some individuals either to a total denial that any other meaningful life exists, and therefore, that there is no reason to continue in this ‘fool’s joke’ called human life, or that there must be some other different life which is meaningful, fulfilling, satisfying and real, and therefore, is a true life.

However, there is another point to this issue. Take for example, humans who are in a coma and who, in actuality don’t live but vegetate without any awareness, and whose breathing is maintained only by artificial external machines. Is it possible to call such a condition, life and living? From the true spiritual standpoint, what is this situation telling you?

There are basically two things that are clearly discernable from this situation. One, the negative state is making an all-out effort to preserve its life in any human no matter what and no matter by what means. It desperately clings to this type of life, knowing very well that it is ultimately dying. It is only a matter of time when it will eternally die. But nevertheless, it is in the process of dying. This unpleasant awareness leads the negative state toward inventing all kinds of artificial, external means, such as you see in hospitals’ so-called life support machines, for the purpose of sustaining life in the human body. This is a metaphorical depiction of the situation that exists with the ultimate destiny of the pseudo-life of the negative state and its human life.

Two, from the standpoint of the members of the positive state’s understanding of this situation, any life which is founded on the external, non-spiritual or false spiritual factors, in its essence and substance, is nothing more than what they can see in the condition of someone whose bodily life is supported by external artificial means. Thus, the conclusion, based on such experiences, is very clear: The life of the negative state and its human life, based on these external premises and factors, is a life which is artificial, meaningless, futile and void of any true reality, leading nowhere but to what the mentioned illustrative condition of the comatose individual is. In that case, it is not a true life and therefore, it should never be chosen as an alternative to the life of the positive state. The outcome of this illustration gives everyone a clear living answer about what shouldn’t ever be chosen by anyone as an ultimate choice.

However, as mentioned above and before, this illustrative phase of human life is in the process of ending. The ending factor of the human situation releases certain energies which make it possible to take a different approach toward human suffering and the issue of dying. Because the human unconsciousness is aware of this factor, it allows the initiation of considering the possibility and feasibility of ending a human life, should it find itself in a condition of extreme suffering, terminal illnesses, comatose conditions and the artificial maintenance of bodily life by all those external machines.

This is the reason why in the last few years you have been hearing and experiencing all kinds of arguments for and against assisted suicide, ending bodily life by switching off all those machines and by other similar means. And not only that, but because of this awareness, nowadays the hospitals require, or at least strongly recommend, that you obtain some kind of legal document that would allow them to take you off those machines should it come to such a condition in your own life. All these arguments and requirements are only a reflection of the state of affairs that have currently established themselves in human life on planet Zero, which have never been experienced before. They herald an entirely new situation and understanding into which humanity as a whole is being placed. They precede the ending of the negative state and its typical human life.

Because of these important factors, in answering Pearl’s question from the purely spiritual standpoint, yes, it is appropriate to have such human laws which would permit you to terminate bodily life under well-defined guidelines in order to prevent any abuse or misuse in this respect. As you know, anything in human life can and may be abused and misused. This is how human life was structured. For that reason, as long as they are in human life, in the life of ultimate externals, they need to have such laws which would regulate how things should be done in this respect.

You may draw the same conclusion about discontinuing life support machines on someone who is in an irreversible coma or who only vegetates. In these particular cases you have to be aware that, in actuality, no true life of an internal nature exists in individuals who are in that condition. It is a pseudo-life, a caricature of the true life supplied from the externals by artificial machines.

As far as Dr. Kevorkian is concerned, he is an embodiment and representation of this new situation with human life on planet Zero and its ending phase. He volunteered to be a pioneer in this respect. His endeavors reflect the need to terminate the negative state and its human life due to conditions which are miserable, sick, decaying, rotting and full of suffering, as reflected in all those terminal illnesses, so typically human.

What you have to understand in this respect — and let Me tell you something which will be very difficult for some of you to accept — is that in the present state of affairs with the typical human life, there is no longer anything positive about the way human life is being lived and manifested. As of now, as of this date, as these words are being recorded, human life, in all its aspects, has been completely and totally subsumed by the forces of the negative state. This situation reflects the reality that the negative state is in its final phase of pseudo-winning on planet Zero.

As you know, Peter, the pseudo-winning of the negative state on your planet has several major phases. It proceeds in certain steps, each step reflecting a further deterioration of all human systems, values, style of life and relationships. If you evaluate the situation on planet Zero from the position of these phases, then the negative state actually has already pseudo-won on your planet. However, from the position of completing this process, the positioning of the entirety of the negative state, in all its aspects, cannot take place in a simultaneous manner or at the very same time. If it were to try to do that, no one could survive the totality of its manifestation for a fraction of a second. In that case, the negative state would lose on all fronts, so-to-speak, and could not complete the entirety of its purpose for being activated and put into the process of manifestation in the first place. There would be no one left to exemplify the nature of its pseudo-life. Due to this fact, some further, more important lessons could not be learned and therefore, the full activation of the life of the positive state could never commence.

For these important reasons, the negative state’s full pseudo-winning on planet Zero has to be in several phases. There are twelve such phases. Each phase, from the position of the space-time continuum, as reflected on your planet, takes a certain time. As mentioned above, you are now at the beginning of the very last phase of the negative state’s pseudo- winning on your planet. How long in terms of your time this phase will take, cannot be revealed. The only thing that can be said about it is that it will be the longest time as compared to all other phases. The reason why this phase needs a much longer time than others, is because in this phase the nature of the negative state is revealed in its utmost and ultimate evil, putrid, despicable and ruthless condition. In order to survive it, you need to release this nature in bits and pieces, so-to-speak. This way, it gives everyone on planet Zero enough time to adjust to this phase without any danger of succumbing to its overwhelming, insurmountable and unbearable manifestation.

So, this is the reason why it was mentioned above that nothing exists in human life any longer that would have any positive connotation. The only exception to this rule is the presence of My representatives on this planet. However, because as of recently they are functioning solely from the position of the positive state, they are no longer considered to be part of human life proper. Although they still have a human body on them, their spirits and souls are residing directly in the positive state. From the position of their bodies, My representatives will continue to experience the typical human emotions, states and conditions but these will no longer be able to deter them from whatever they are to do for Me on planet Zero. The establishment of this current situation on planet Zero and in human life, and the realization of these facts in the human unconsciousness, as well as in its consciousness, was preceded, and is now embodied in human life by the factor of assisted suicides by physicians, by the passage of the law in Oregon permitting such assistance and by giving permission to physicians to discontinue life support machines from terminally ill individuals. These factors are all illustrations and reflections of the fact that life in human life on planet Zero, and the way it is proceeding at the present state of affairs, is no longer tenable or tolerable.

In answering your question, Peter, about capital punishment for individuals who have committed hideous crimes, it is obvious that they agreed, before incarnating on planet Zero, to this mode of departure and then entering the other life, after human life. This is one of the many choices in human life that need to be illustrated and demonstrated concerning the consequences, outcomes and results of a behavior that has no place or conception in the positive state. In fact, the death sentence illustrates the ultimate expression of the negativity which is imbued in the life of the negative state and its human life, leading ultimately to the loss of life. This is an important warning that unless one amends one’s ways, that is to say, unless everyone in the negative state and in human life chooses to recede from their pseudo-life and convert to the positive state, it may result in a permanent loss of life as depicted in the death sentence on your planet. In some ways, the agreement to illustrate such a mode of losing life through the death sentence, serves as a deterrent from this to ever happen in an eternal sense. Therefore, such sentences are permitted to take place for the purpose of this important and crucial illustration and warning. Their justification is rooted in this meaning. It is not as though I will any of what was outlined here and above, but, certain things are permitted to happen in order to accomplish this ultimate goal for the sake of the salvation of all. Remember that.

Peter: Thank You so much for granting us these meaningful explanations. Is there anything else for today?

The Lord Jesus Christ: It was a pleasure, Peter. And no, this will be all for today. I hope Pearl will be satisfied with these answers. Have a nice and pleasant day.

THIRTY FIFTH DIALOGUE

Source: DIALOGUES WITH THE LORD JESUS ​​CHRIST PART 1.


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