To read aloud
FORTY FIRST DIALOGUE
February 14, 1999
Peter: Many things are going through my mind this morning, but
nothing that I can put my finger on in a tangible manner in order to ask
You any specific questions. For that reason, I would like to ask You if
You wish to contribute anything this morning from Your own position.
The Lord Jesus Christ: Thank you, Peter, for asking Me this question
and for giving Me this opportunity to contribute whatever is on My Mind
this early morning — of course, early morning for you, Peter, but not for
us here in the positive state.
I would first like to address the issue of human ego. As you remember
from My New Revelation, the human ego, since it was fabricated from
elements of pure evils and falsities, tends to always be in opposition to
your true self and to My Will. Why am I bringing up this issue once again
and at this particular time? It relates to your personal training in
becoming My true representatives and relinquishing the role and
position of your being My agents but, most importantly of being typical
humans.
If you are positioned in the midst of the positive state, you cannot
function properly and effectively should you still be laboring under the
influence of your human ego and your human nature in general. They
are contradictory to the nature of the positive state.
As mentioned in the Thirty Fifth Dialog, from time to time, I use some
words in our dialoging, Peter, which may sound either offensive to
someone’s ears or offend their expectations, or it could be assumed that it
was not I who spoke those words. In that Dialog, we already mentioned
the word ‘laughter’ and what it provoked in some readers of these
Dialogs.
Other words which were intentionally used for that purpose, designated
some, if they were named by their names, as ‘My loyal, faithful and
devoted servant.’ Do you remember, Peter, when I used that designation
for the first time, what entered your mind immediately?
Peter: That some readers of these Dialogs, who are named by their
names, but without such a specific designation, will feel that they are
less loyal, less faithful, less devoted, less valuable, less needed, etc. In
other words, that they are not on a par with a person designated as such.
The Lord Jesus Christ: Exactly, Peter. Your professional training as a
clinical psychologist kicked in, so-to-speak (excuse Me for that
expression), and you instantly perceived the problem it may raise.
However, at that time it was not yet appropriate to bring that issue to
anyone’s attention. It was necessary to give the readers an opportunity to
react to that designation in order to help them realize from what position
they are responding from within their own mind and feelings to it. In
other words, it was necessary to trigger their typical human ego state in
order to help them work on themselves and to get rid, as much as
possible, of their tendencies to function, respond, react and look at
everything from the standpoint of their human ego.
So what happened in this case, as you foresaw it, Peter, was that some
readers who were not designated as such, felt left out and almost
depressed. In other words, they responded from the position of their
human ego and not from the position of being, or to use a better word,
becoming My true representatives.
What does such a negative attitude tell you, Peter, from the standpoint of
multiversal significance? A very spiritually dangerous tendency is set up
which would indicate that I am capable of preferential treatment and
that I discriminate, considering some people or humans, or any sentient
entity anywhere, more valuable, more deserving, more needed, more
loved, more cherished, or whatever, than some others. In other words,
this tendency would portray My Nature in a totally distorted and false
manner. You would look at Me as someone Who treats you in the same
manner as humans treat each other.
This is exactly how the negative state wants you to perceive Me. And
although I know very well that intellectually you recognize the fact that I
am not that way, nevertheless, emotionally, on the level of your typical
human ego, you react to such designations or similar words as any
negative entity or a typical human would.
It is necessary, once and for all, to dispense with any such tendency even
if it is remotely present within you. As I mentioned above, this is a
training period for you, helping you to realize to what extent such
reactions are possible for you to have, and to motivate you to get rid of
them permanently so that you can assume your new role and position as
My true representatives.
Unfortunately, this is not an easy task. Neither will it be accomplished
overnight, so-to-speak. Don’t forget please, that an attitude of this nature
was engrained into you in your inherited genes.
However, a much more serious implication stems from our consideration
of this issue. It leads to the assumption of a duality or dichotomy in the
true Creation, or of My positive state on one side, and the Zone of
Displacement or the negative state, on the other side. Unfortunately, this
duality or dichotomy is supported by the literal assumptions of such
books as the Christian Bible, the Islamic Koran and some others. In the
so-called Indian holy books, at least, it is fallaciously assumed that one
will be continuously reincarnating on the hell-hole called planet Earth
(planet Zero in our conceptualization) until one discharges one’s Karma,
following which, one enters some kind of Nirvana-paradise, from which,
one will then go into a transcendent state, during which one merges with
some kind of God, losing one’s unique individuality and in fact, ceasing to
be a unique self-aware spirit and soul.
This Indian philosophy’s conceptualization is a confusion between losing
one’s typical human ego, which is an illusion, having no true reality in
itself and by itself, and how one’s spirit and soul are perceived,
understood and relate to this Absolute God.
It is correct to assume that this ego will permanently disappear once you
transcend your human life. It is a total falsity to assume that your self-
aware unique spirit and soul could merge with some kind of God with a
total loss of conscious awareness of your ‘I am.’ If such a thing were
possible to occur, it would withdraw from My Creation the awareness of
that aspect of My Absolute Nature which was placed in everyone of you
from the position of My Absolute State to the position of your relative
state. In that case, as one by one of you would be absorbed into Me,
totally losing your conscious awareness of anything related to your ‘I am,’
eventually all knowledge and awareness of Me would also disappear.
(After all, how do I manifest the knowledge of My Absolute Nature, or
the availability of My Nature to the relative beings? Through and by the
individuals’ ‘I am.’) So, gradually and slowly the entire Creation would
disappear with all its sentient entities, and I would be left alone to
regurgitate My Creation, because, in other words, it would mean that I
had devoured My entire Creation. Something like that is nicely depicted
in Greek mythology, in which, Saturn is described devouring his own
children.
What kind of God would I be if such foolish, illogical and irrational
assumptions were to be true? Do you see My point?
Peter: Yes, I do very clearly.
The Lord Jesus Christ: On the other hand, in the Christian and
Islamic conceptualization, if one is evil, one will go to hell and spend
his/her life there to eternity in the most miserable tortures and suffering.
Only some very good and virtuous individuals would escape this horrid
fate and be admitted by Me in My heaven, which I would have prepared
for them. And this situation would last forever, without any chance or
possibility to change it or amend it. At least in the Indian
conceptualization you would be lost forever without any suffering or
misery. Of course, in some ways, this is not too much of a better deal
than what Christians and the followers of Islam offer you. In one case,
there is no loss of life to eternity, in the other case there is a loss of self-
aware life to eternity.
Peter: If I were only given the choice between these two alternatives, I
would, of course, choose the Indian alternative. It is much better not to
be at all than to be painfully aware of one’s miserable and suffering
pseudo-life to eternity.
The Lord Jesus Christ: And you would be right in choosing that
alternative, Peter. Fortunately, neither of these alternatives are
available as ultimate choices because both of them are totally and
completely false if seen from the proper spiritual perspective and from
their eternal continuation. In some limited respect, these two
alternatives have validity only on a temporary and transient base. One
chooses to go to one of the Hells in order to learn something important or
to bear the consequences of one’s negative and evil deeds whatever they
may be. Because the results of such deeds have only temporary and
relative value, — after all, they were committed by a relative individual,
in a relative time — so is the retribution and punishment, because they
have a temporary and relative duration. It would be a total and the
ultimate unfairness and injustice to punish someone who is relative with
eternal condemnation for something that was done in a relative time and
condition by relative and temporary means as well as temporary
manifestation.
In the other alternative, one may lose one’s conscious self-awareness on a
temporary basis if the situation warrants it, for the purpose of
illustration and learning about the futility, uselessness and
unproductiveness of such states; or if there was some kind of prolonged
illness, its spiritual correspondence requires a cure that can only be
accomplished in a state of total temporary unawareness — until this cure
lasts.
But let’s continue with the discussed issue. So, how does this
conceptualization of My Nature portray Me, and what does it assume?
First of all, that I am a God who discriminates and gives preference to
some certain individuals who do what I command them to do, and I
forever reject and condemn into eternal punishment in the Hells some
other individuals who don’t do what I command them to do. And because
both states are designated as being established to last for eternity,
without any change in their status-quo, in that sense, logically speaking,
there is a duality or dichotomy in being and existence. Such a false
logical assumption leads to the conclusion that the negative state is real,
eternal, equal and absolute in the same manner as the positive state. For
that reason, no matter what, it cannot be eliminated, ever.
These assumptions have been fed into humanity and all creatures of the
Hells and the Zone of Displacement for several thousands of years or
longer. Humanity and all other creatures have been brainwashed by the
negative state into believing this falsity for so long that it has been taken
for granted that this is the way it is or is going to be, to eternity. And
because it was proclaimed, and is being constantly proclaimed, in My
Name, as though it is My will for it to be that way, that no other
conceptualization or understanding of this fact is possible or even
conceivable.
Unfortunately, this false assumption, whether Christian, Muslim, Indian
or whatever in origin, because it has lasted for so many centuries, has
become genetically encoded in all the genes of humanity and other
creatures elsewhere. For that reason, it will take an insurmountable
effort and a long time to eliminate it from their lives.
Peter: I understand this situation very well. However, if this is the case,
why did You permit it to become the foundation on which the negative
state operates and influences its followers and humans?
The Lord Jesus Christ: For a very simple reason, Peter. Can you
imagine a scenario in which everyone who participates in the negative
state would know in advance that, first of all, they are in it on a
voluntary basis, that it will not last forever, that it is only an experiment
and that no matter what they do, they would never be lost, or condemned
to suffer and be tortured to eternity? What kind of an experiment would
it be? How valid would the outcome of it be? What would anyone learn
from that kind of situation, a situation in which everything would be
based on ‘as if’ or ‘let us pretend?’ It would be game-playing, a fake
situation in which everyone would know exactly what the outcome would
be in advance, without any chance to learn anything valid and impactual
that would give them an indisputable, convincing and firm foundation on
which they could reject the life of the negative state and choose life in the
fullness of the positive state.
Secondly, any learning at all which has a lasting effect, and which gives
you a full sense of something on which you can build a solid foundation
for your spiritual development and choices, must be based on valid and
real premises that give you an assurance that what you are learning is
derived from the reality of its being and existence and not from some
kind of a fake setup, or game-playing, or pretentious conditions.
Peter: But what about now? The negative state and its human life are
still real, at least in their view, and if they are learning from Your New
Revelation about these facts and about the outcome of Your original
permission for them to come to their adverse condition in the first place,
wouldn’t this prevent the validity of this learning?
The Lord Jesus Christ: The situation is entirely different now, Peter.
Don’t forget that their false assumption, fed to them by all those so-called
holy books and their respective religions, has been engrained into their
genetic code. The many centuries of brainwashing to which they have
been subjected all this time are not as easy to eliminate as you would like
to believe. When you have such a firm belief about the rightfulness of
your assumptions, no matter what they are, and if it is part of your
genetic makeup, you will have the tendency to disregard anything that
contradicts them and you would outrightly reject anything different from
them.
It is only in the initial setup of the experiment, before anything of this
nature is in place, that the knowledge of the conditions — under which
the negative state is permitted to come to its adverse condition — is
obliterated from everyone’s conscious memory. It is put into the deepest
possible unconscious part of their overall mind and made totally
inaccessible until the opportune time.
At one point in time, when the life of the negative state and its human
life enters the very beginning of its last phase, or shortly before its last
phase is about to commence, My New Revelation, which reveals all these
facts to everyone everywhere and everywhen, is granted to everyone. In
some places and states this revelation becomes a property of their full
conscious mind; in others, for the majority of humans and some other
creatures elsewhere, it is brought to the accessible part of their
unconscious mind. The reason why this knowledge is brought to
everyone’s attention or made available to everyone in the negative state
and to humans at this particular time, is because, first of all, the
negative state has entered its last phase and the learning about it has
almost exhausted its usefulness, and secondly, because a revelation of
this nature has to be firmly embedded in everyone’s mind so as to make
it a means by which the false assumptions about its being and existence
(pseudo-being and pseudo-existence) are completely and totally nullified.
Everyone who will hear My voice in their mind during your rereading of
these Dialogs, will hear this truth very clearly. As they are hearing what
we are talking about in this respect, the subject of our conversation will
contradict anything that they had learned or known about it. Gradually
and slowly, this new knowledge and its truth, will effectively undermine
and erode the previously believed false assumptions that they had in this
respect, and eventually, it will replace it permanently.
However, because their prior false knowledge and assumptions in this
respect are an integral part of their genetic makeup, perpetuated for
many millennia, it will require a long period of time for this new correct
and true knowledge to nullify the effect of the old false knowledge and
assumptions, and for the new one to take a permanent effect. Hence, the
reason this is being revealed at this particular time — to give enough
time for this to happen.
But let’s go back to the issue of discrimination and preferential
treatment. From everything that was revealed about the discussed issue
above and throughout My New Revelation and its Updates, it is obvious
that everyone in the being and existence of My Creation, as well as
everyone in the pseudo-being and pseudo-existence of the Zone of
Displacement and planet Zero, has equal value, need, consideration and
role, or whatever they all have. Because of the very important services
they render in any position and role they are in at each particular time,
— and I am repeating this many times — they are all equally valuable,
needed, respected, loved, cared for, accepted, recognized and appreciated.
And you all, as My true representatives, are equally My loyal, faithful
and devoted servants. Such terms and suppositions as discrimination
and preferential treatment, or placing anyone over someone else, could
never enter My Mind to eternity. It is the nature of the negative state
and human nature to do so and to ascribe it to Me as well.
Because of these facts, if you continue harboring these types of feelings
or thoughts, you would still be under the influence of the negative state
which gets to you by the means of your typical human ego. You are being
humbly asked by Me to stop functioning from the position of your human
ego, and take an example from Me, from the way I look upon everyone
and everything. Otherwise, no difference would exist in your attitude in
this respect and the attitude of everyone else in human life and
elsewhere. I need you in your role, as My true representatives, to help
Me set up an example by your own life, how it is to relate to everyone
from the position of My positive state and from Me personally. In The
New Revelation of The Lord Jesus Christ you were asked to
surrender your human ego to Me so that I can take care of it for you.
Now is the highest possible time to do so. Now this requirement needs to
be implemented to the fullest possible extent and abilities you have in
this respect.
This is the reason why this issue is being discussed at this particular
time and why certain statements, seemingly offensive to some of you,
were being made in these Dialogs and why the reasons for making them
in such a manner are being brought to your attention. As you see,
everything has its place and time. Nothing is without reason why it is
being presented to you or why you are being reminded about it at this
particular time.
Up to this point, or until My New Revelation brought these facts to
everyone’s attention, it was necessary to permit many to think in terms
of the negative state, as well as in terms of your human nature and its
ego, in order to illustrate the difference between the way the members of
the positive state function and the way humans and other creatures
function. The members of the negative state and many humans always
assumed that everyone in the positive state, including Me, look down at
them as dirty, filthy and inferior; and with total contempt, rejection,
condemnation and a judgmental attitude. These terms are, of course,
their projections because this is the way they ultimately feel about
themselves. But because they are incapable of admitting to themselves
that they feel that way about themselves, they project those feelings onto
Me and onto the members of My positive state.
One of the aspects of the nature of the currently ongoing shift, is
bringing this factor to everyone’s attention in the negative state. As they
are being informed about this issue, the members of the negative state
will begin to feel about the negative state exactly the same way as they
are projecting it onto the positive state and Me. It will enable them to
develop an aversion toward the entire negative state and all aspects of its
nature. Instead, they will start to yearn and desire to experience the life
of the positive state. At the same time, the moment this very important
shift occurs in their perception regarding the true nature of both the
positive state and negative state, respectively, it will be possible to
transfer the available knowledge about everything revealed and disclosed
about these issues from the unconscious regions of their overall mind, to
its fully conscious external region. At that point they will fully realize the
voluntary status of their participation in the life of the negative state, of
their choice to be illustrators and demonstrators of a different lifestyle
than the lifestyle of the positive state, in order to establish a valid and
firm foundation for everyone’s ability to choose the fullness of life in the
positive state.
With this realization, the members of the negative state and humans
proper will finally accept the fact that in My eyes they have always been
as valuable, as needed, as loved, as appreciated and as respected as
everyone else in the positive state and everywhere. At that time, such
terms as discrimination, preferential treatment, bigotry, racism and
everything related to them, will disappear from everyone’s mind for good
and forever.
Peter: To tell You the truth, I can’t wait for this to happen. Sometimes I
feel so tired, constantly being on alert about what I write or say or how I
write it or say it to other people in order to avoid making them feel
rejected or put down, or offended or whatever.
The Lord Jesus Christ: Unfortunately, as long as they have a tendency
to look upon anything you say or write, or what I say and you write
down, from the position of their typical human ego, no matter how we
say it or write it, someone will inadvertently feel offended by it, or feel
inferior and unwanted. It is inevitable for this to happen if they involve
their ego into it. Why do you think we have devoted this entire Dialog to
this particular issue? To warn everyone who reads this not to fall into the
trap of their negative human ego. To repeat: This is an integral part of
their training in becoming My true representatives.
If you carefully analyze what was said above, from it you can deduce
another possible alternative about how the negative state could or may
end permanently. By providing proper and truthful knowledge to all
members of the negative state on a continuous basis, and by transferring
the original agreement about all these issues and factors — from the
deep inaccessible regions of their mind to its accessible unconscious
regions and subsequently, with the help of My New Revelation and your
rereading its three sources into their external conscious awareness and
recognition — you gradually replace all the falsities and distortions
which were the base and feeders of their pseudo-life. At one point in
time, all that pseudo-knowledge would be erased and totally eliminated
and replaced with true knowledge, coming from the true reality of the
true life of the positive state and Me personally. Having such new
knowledge would make it possible for them to convert to the positive
state.
This particular alternative, if it is taken at all as a means for eliminating
the negative state, would play an important role anyway, even if some
other alternative would be chosen. At the end of implementing any other
possible alternative, this one would be utilized to eliminate all false and
distorted knowledge and information and to replace them with the
correct and true ones.
And this will be all that I would like to offer you for today in this respect.
Have a nice and pleasant day.
Peter: Thank You very much for this offer.
Source: DIALOGUES WITH THE LORD JESUS CHRIST PART 1.
