To read aloud
FORTY EIGHTH DIALOGUE
February 24, 1999
Peter: Before asking my own question, I would like to ask You if you
have anything to add or to clarify regarding anything that has been
stated or revealed so far.
The Lord Jesus Christ: Thank you, Peter, for asking Me to talk first.
Yes, I do have something to add and to further elaborate on the topic
discussed yesterday as recorded in the Forty Seventh Dialog. Yesterday
you were physically too tired and emotionally upset and very much
concerned about all those questions pouring at you. You were becoming
too afraid, almost scared, that some readers of these Dialogs were
becoming too dependent on you and our dialogs instead of taking
responsibility and being accountable for their own life and for asking
their own questions and receiving their own answers from their own
within. Because of that, I chose to stop our dialog yesterday without
further comments in order to give you enough time to cool off and to look
at this situation from a more objective perspective. Now we may continue
in our discourse.
One point about this whole situation which was not mentioned
yesterday, was that the forces of the negative state are able to use some
readers of these Dialogs, their typical human tendencies and
expectations to be told what to do and how to do it, to get back at you,
Peter. By using your legitimate and proper concerns about the factor of
some readers’ needs to be dependent on your input, the forces of the
negative state very much hope to be able to disrupt and terminate our
dialogs and your recording them for the benefit of all interested. They are
using your fears, planting in your mind considerable doubts and anguish
about whether it is appropriate to continue in this effort. And not only
that, but whether it was such a good idea to undertake these dialogs at
all. The forces of the negative state, once again, are bringing to your
attention the statement that I made several years ago in the
Corollaries... that no more updates would be coming your way and that
no written material would be allowed to be dispensed or shared with
anyone. Of course, they are conveniently omitting what I said in My
statement about the validity and applicability of its content only to the
here-and-now; that is to say, only for that time but not for this time.
So, you may dispense with your fears, anxieties and concerns about these
issues and continue in our dialogs whenever needed and if needed.
Moreover, should anyone ask you to direct questions to Me through you,
for those questions which are totally inappropriate or too personal in
nature, you may simply, quietly and peacefully bring to their attention
the inappropriateness of their requests. They’ll understand and accept
your kind admonishment. Hopefully, after reading this Dialog, they will
stop doing that. However, don’t count on that. Human nature is too
stubborn and unpredictable in order not to try asking inappropriate and
personal types of questions again. Should something like that happen
again, you may simply explain to them once more why it would be
spiritually dangerous for them individually if you were to mediate from
Me the answers to their questions.
Peter: Thank You for this explanation. I understand and I’ll do exactly
as You suggested. Is there anything else You would like to bring to our
attention before I ask my question?
The Lord Jesus Christ: Yes, Peter, there is. We need to further
elaborate on Monika’s questions. Because of your tiredness and concerns,
they were not fully answered. I am talking about her four scenarios that
may happen in the course of sexual intercourse between two agents of
the positive state on planet Zero. Also, about the possible violation of the
multiversal law of everything proceeding from within to without.
Let us start with the possibility of this violation and then go to the
explanation of the outcome of her four scenarios. Monika should be
aware by now from My New Revelation that the negative state and its
end product — human life, were founded on violation of all laws and on
the establishment of their own pseudo-laws which rule their own life and
all their establishments. Because, as you know, sexuality was a major
tool for establishing, conveying and implementing these pseudo-laws in
human life and in the life of the negative state in general, it was in
sexuality itself that the spiritual law of the multiverse was violated the
most. Whereas in the positive state, in the process of sexual intercourse,
everything goes from the double within-within to the double without-
without (two sexual partners of the opposite sex!), in the negative state,
and especially in human life, rooted in the most externals, everything is
upside-down, that is to say, in the process of their sexual intercourse
everything goes from the double without-without to the double without-
without. Because of this setup of the human life and the negative state in
general, any ideas that might be produced by such an act, were utilized
either for the birth of a negative entity or a human proper. At the
present time however, as you know, only negative and/or evil entities are
born from such ideas. The birth from those ideas is either of a totally new
negative and/or evil entity, or such a sexual intercourse is utilized by
someone in the Hells to incarnate on planet Zero. Either way, that entity
is always negative and/or evil. No humans proper have been born on
planet Zero for some time.
Because of this setup in the negative state and human life, it would be
difficult to talk about Monika’s concern that a possibility exists for
violating the mentioned law. Such possibility is inconceivable to occur in
the positive state.
Before the time when agents of My positive state, as well as humans
proper, were allowed to incarnate on planet Zero, the agents of the
positive state, situated on your planet, were utilized very often, through
their sexual intercourse, for generating either positive ideas or human
types of ideas. The positive ideas gave the means for the birth of a
positive agent, and human types of ideas for the birth of a human proper.
Depending on the selected genes and on the spiritual disposition during
sexual intercourse, such a human could have either positive or negative
inclinations, respectively.
However, the situation with My agents on planet Zero has completely
changed since the time when no one from the positive state has been
allowed to incarnate on planet Zero any longer, and no humans proper
have been allowed to be born either. This change is even more
pronounced with the current situation, during which, you are in the
process of becoming My true representatives, relinquishing your former
roles and positions as My agents or agents of the positive state.
And this brings us to Monika’s four scenarios. Before the first scenario is
described, let’s consider the following one: Both sexual partners of the
opposite sex, who were My agents and now are My representatives,
approach each other for sexual intercourse with proper, right and only
positive motivation. What is the outcome of such an act? Are there any
ideas produced from it which could be utilized for the birth of a sentient
entity and if there are, what type of a sentient entity is born from them?
As mentioned above, in the past, such an act was utilized for the birth of
either a positive entity or a human proper. At the present time, this is
not the case. A sexual intercourse of this nature is utilized either for the
first factor — acquiring greater knowledge and understanding of My
nature, others and one’s own; or for the third factor — pleasure, delight,
joy, relaxation and sharing; or for both the first and the third factors.
Because of the prohibition for the birth of anyone from the positive state,
as well as humans proper on this planet, the result of this type of sexual
intercourse no longer generates ideas that could be utilized for such
births.
Monika’s first scenario: If two agents of the positive state, connected to
My New Revelation, approach each other for sexual intercourse and both
of them approached it, for some reason or other, with the wrong
motivation and intention, could such an act produce ideas for the birth of
a sentient entity? And if it could, what kind of an entity would it be?
Depending on the nature and content of such negative intention and
motivation, either it would end in the spontaneous abortion of any such
ideas, or no ideas would be generated; or in some rare instances, if both
their intention and motivation were extremely negative, and if they were
not careful, that is to say, if they didn’t use birth control measures, the
forces of the Hells could utilize such ideas and impose the birth of a
negative entity on them.
The second scenario: The same as above but, in this case, one sexual
partner approaches this act with a positive, good and right intention and
motivation, and the other one with a very negative, inappropriate,
unclean and carnal intention and motivation. Are there any ideas
generated from such an act and if there are, what kind of a sentient
entity would be born from such an act?
This would be a case when any ideas generated from such an act would
end in their spontaneous abortion. The partner with positive intention
and motivation would have some limited sense of My presence within
her/him and some limited feelings of satisfaction, but such senses would
be contaminated and become ambiguous due to the other partner’s
negative and inappropriate approach.
The third scenario: Both former agents of the positive state, connected
to My New Revelation, approach each other for sexual intercourse with
only pure and positive intention and motivation, but one partner reaches
orgasm sooner than the other one, and thus, they are unable to have a
simultaneous orgasm. Can anyone be born from such an act? And if such
a birth is feasible, what type of a sentient entity would he or she be?
In the past, such an act could produce ideas which were utilized for the
birth of either a positive sentient entity or a human proper. Don’t forget
one important fact: On the spiritual and mental level, and thus, in the
spiritual world, the factor of a temporal-spatial requirement is not an
issue. The relevance is only that such orgasms occurred. Whereas on
planet Zero, which is bound by temporal-spatial requirements, a
sequential experience of the orgasm may take place, in the other
dimensions they are perceived as synchronous. So, it doesn’t make any
difference in what time frame the orgasms occurred. Moreover, in the
context of the typical human sexuality, it is not uncommon for the male
partner to reach orgasm sooner than the female partner. In older males,
they may have the orgasm later than their female partners. This is the
way human anatomy, physiology, biology and the mentality of sexuality
were originally conceived. At the present time however, no ideas are
being generated for the second purpose of sexuality — for the birth of any
type of sentient entity. Instead, the first and the third factors of sexuality
are triggered (knowledge and pleasure).
And finally the fourth scenario: The same as above, but one partner is
able to have many orgasms during sexual intercourse, while the other
has only one. From this situation, how many sentient entities are born, if
at all?
First of all, the ability to have multiple orgasms during any current
sexual intercourse, is a female prerogative only. It is extremely rare that
a male is able to have multiple orgasms in sequence, in the same manner
as a female. In the vast majority of cases a male can have only one
orgasm during any particular sexual intercourse. At a very young age,
sometimes a teenage male can have two orgasms during one session. The
older he gets, the less likely that a man experiences such an occurrence.
Males need to have some break time in between sexual intercourse in
order to be able to achieve another orgasm. The older he gets, the longer
the times required for that to happen. Again, this is the way human
sexuality was structured by the pseudo-creators.
Of course, at the present time, no ideas are being generated in the
process of this particular act for the birth of any sentient entity, unless of
course, both partners approach such an act with a totally wrong,
negative, improper and bad intention and motivation. In that case, as
indicated above, the forces of the negative state may use such an act for
their own adverse purposes. In the past, from these types of acts, either a
positive entity or a human proper could be born, depending on the needs
that existed at the time. Regardless of how many orgasms were
experienced, it is not the numbers that counted in this respect but the
fact of sexual intercourse itself and the purpose for which it was
approached and undertaken. Thus, in most instances, only one sentient
entity was born on planet Zero from this particular act.
However, all these births were occurring in the past as a result of the
ideas produced by the two positive agents on planet Zero. But even in the
past, the rules for these acts to occur on planet Zero were different than
in the positive state. Thus, you are advised not to try to transfer or apply
the rules of the positive state to the conditions under which you were at
that time on this planet and under which you operate at the present
time. Because of the specificity, uniqueness and intimacy of such sexual
acts, and because in your particular case, as My true representatives,
such acts are strictly individualized, personalized and privatized, it is a
matter for you to establish, from the position of your own intuition, the
kind of outcome that any of your sexual involvements would, could and
should have. Because of this fact, nothing more can be said about this
issue.
Peter: Thank You very much for this explanation. I hope that Monika, of
the Czech Republic, although originally of the Slovak Republic, will be
satisfied. And now, if You don’t have anything else, I would like to ask
my own question.
The Lord Jesus Christ: Go ahead, Peter, with your question. For now,
I am done with My elaboration on the requested issue.
Peter: Although many things were revealed concerning the false concept
of reincarnation in the books of Your New Revelation, I would like to go
back to this issue with You. The reason for this request is in one incident
that so far has never been properly explained or revealed. Tom Oudal of
Texas and I discussed this issue in a private conversation. It relates to
Your statement about John the Baptist, in which, You indicated that he
was Elijah-the prophet. The followers of the concept of reincarnation
utilize this statement of Yours as the strongest proof that there is such a
thing as literal physical reincarnation. May I ask You humbly to shed
some light on this issue?
The Lord Jesus Christ: Most certainly, Peter; I would be glad to do so.
Although your explanation to Tom about Elijah and John the Baptist
fully and properly explained this issue, for the sake of other readers of
these Dialogs, let Me elaborate on it again.
From a general standpoint regarding the false concept of reincarnation, if
it were true and such a thing as literal physical reincarnation were to
exist, and if I were to use your expression to describe My attitude about
this issue, which I often do, Peter, then I would have to say that
believing in such a false concept is an insult to My Absolute Creative
Effort. Consider this: What are the major factors behind this concept? A
need to have retribution and/or reward for whatever you did during any
of your previous reincarnations into the life of planet Zero. Do you really
believe that planet Zero, with its human life, would be able to provide
anyone in a just and objective manner, with conditions that would fulfill
the requirements of the so-called personal Karma? Such a supposition is
totally and completely wrong because one would be constantly
reincarnating into a life of further problems, with which human life is
imbued. Thus, one would be bringing back his/her old problems and
acquiring new ones, compounding those problems ad infinitum. And not
only that, but by doing that, one would be contributing toward building
up the negative state’s cache, from which, it could be supplied by all
those compounded problems to continue in its pseudo-life, also ad
infinitum. After all, the negative state lives and functions by them. One
of the reasons why I don’t allow anyone to physically and literally
reincarnate on planet Zero into human life, is to prevent this from ever
happening. Instead, there are other places in the multidimensional mode
of being and existence and pseudo-being and pseudo-existence where one
is able to accomplish the goals of rewards or retributions without the
need to go back into something which only would make it far worse for
him/her.
But let’s get back to the issue of Elijah and John the Baptist. First of all,
what I said was that John the Baptist was functioning or performing his
work in the spirit of Elijah. In no way does that statement denote that he
was the literal physical reincarnation of Elijah. Secondly, both Elijah and
John the Baptist were prophets. Because of that designation, they shared
a common line established for that purpose from the spiritual world to
planet Zero. Thus, they were in a similar mode of functioning.
However, let us assume for a moment that John the Baptist was the true
incarnation of Elijah. Notice please, I am using the word ‘incarnation’
and not ‘reincarnation.’ Why is that? Because no one knows that Elijah
has never actually incarnated on planet Zero as a typical human. He was
a powerful spirit from Me, who was able to materialize himself on planet
Zero into a human body without going through the typical human
animalistic process of birth in a mother’s womb, in order to do some
important work on My behalf. Due to the fact that he was not born in a
typical human fashion, neither was he subjected to typical physical
human death. As you know, he was taken away into heaven in a chariot
of fire in front of the eyes of his disciple Elisha. Thus, neither did he
experience human birth nor human death. For that reason, even if John
the Baptist had been Elijah, his coming back could not be considered a
reincarnation. Moreover, when John the Baptist was interrogated by the
priests and Levites about his origin, he flatly denied that he was Elijah,
or Christ or any other known prophet. Thus, he completely refuted the
possibility of being a reincarnation of any of them. John the Baptist was
sent by Me to prepare the way for My incarnation into human life. The
baptism by water which he performed on the inhabitants of that region
where I was to be incarnated was a symbolical depiction or spiritual
correspondence for the purification from evils and falsities and the
acceptance of truth. In an absolute sense, I am the Absolute Truth. Thus,
by baptizing people with water — with the pure truth — and in that
process getting rid of their evils and falsities, the way was prepared for
the Absolute Truth — Me. That way, the contact with Me could not
result in their annihilation. Besides some others, this is one symbolical
meaning of the function of John the Baptist.
Peter: Thank You very much for Your explanation. Is there anything
else that needs to be discussed today?
The Lord Jesus Christ: Not today. I would like for you to take a rest
now, Peter. Have a nice and pleasant afternoon.
Source: DIALOGUES WITH THE LORD JESUS CHRIST PART 1.
