To read aloud
FIFTY FOURTH DIALOGUE
March 16, 1999
Peter: May we continue this early morning with our conversation
related to yesterday’s topic, as contained in the Fifty Third Dialog?
The Lord Jesus Christ: Yes, Peter, we may. As you know, one of the
most important issues related to the eventual elimination of the negative
state and to the preparation for the establishment of the fullness of life of
the positive state into one cohesive and harmonious oneness and
wholeness, is the issue of integration, unification and interconnectedness
of all levels, steps, degrees, aspects, dimensions and everything else
imaginable in the entire being and existence, as well as in pseudo-being
and pseudo-existence and human life.
The way you have to understand the portion of this statement related to
the pseudo-being and pseudo-existence and human life, is that their life,
by which they flourish and function was, at one point in the very distant
past from your time perspective, separated from My Creation and
utilized for the establishment of a different lifestyle. That life, after it is
freed from all pollution, poison and contamination by the typical evil and
false lifestyle of its carriers, has to be brought back to the sphere and
atmosphere of My True Creation and integrated into its totality. It is not
the negative state, in itself and by itself, as well as the typical lifestyle of
human beings, which will be brought back into the cohesive wholeness of
My Creation, but the original life force energies which were utilized for
activation of the negative state and fabrication of humans. As long as
there has been some degree of separation, disunion, self-containment and
lack of a continuous uninterrupted flow, the negative state and its
human life could flourish and spread out without any difficulties. Such
states as these are very supportive of the pseudo-life of the negative state
and its human life.
Peter: The question, of course, is why was it necessary to create in such
a manner, placing all basic three dimensions of Your Creation —
spiritual, intermediate and physical — into separate entities without any
direct connection among them and their various levels? Why was this
connection limited to correspondences and symbolical depictions or
representations with a special type of language that nobody could
understand directly but only through a special type of interpretation by
specially enlightened individuals for that purpose?
The Lord Jesus Christ: The answer to your question, Peter, is
contained in My New Revelation in a somewhat indirect manner. It is
hidden in the statement that life of the positive state, in its fullness and
completeness, could not be activated as long as all other forms and
manners of life were allowed or permitted to manifest themselves first
for the purpose of learning for all what type of life not to choose. If you
don’t allow those types of lives or pseudo-lives to be manifested first, you
give no choice in the matter to anyone but to be only in a certain very
specific and well-defined mode as imposed on them by My own ideas of
how their life should be. Such an arrangement would be contrary to My
Nature rooted in Absolute Freedom and Independence. In that case, no
meaningful, satisfying and fulfilling relationship with the members of
My Creation could be established. They would be only My slaves doing
my bidding without any creative incentives or inspiration.
However, the main reason for such an initial setup in the structure of My
Creation was that if I were to create in the manner and way which would
allow such a direct interconnectedness among all dimensions and their
various levels, My Creation would be in the state of complete unification,
integration and oneness. Because such states are of a purely positive
nature, the only type of life which could be established under those
conditions would be the fullness and completeness of life of the positive
state. In that case, no other choices would be available to anyone. Again,
such a situation would put everyone in a state of inevitability and no
freedom of choice.
You have to understand very clearly, Peter, that if My creative effort
were to begin with such a unified and integrated approach, no other type
of life could ever be activated and put into motion. It is impossible for any
other type of life to take hold under the existing conditions of unification,
integration and oneness of all and everything. By establishing such a life,
you are excluding all other manifestations of different lives which are not
built on these types of conditions. This type of life is very specific to the
life of the ultimate positive state. At this point in time, as you know,
Peter, the positive state is not in its ultimate condition and
manifestation. As long as other types of lives are still in place, providing
important learning for all of what not to choose, the fullness and
completeness of life in the positive state cannot be activated. If I were to
do that, by the factor of this activation, all other types of lives would
cease to be and exist in a blink of an eye. However, in that case, the
learning of the various choices could not be completed and the members
of the positive state would still be burdened by questions about the
possibilities of other forms or types of lives. Here is the paradox: Putting
into motion the completeness and fullness of the positive state’s life,
before the completion of manifestation of other lives, would eliminate the
learning process prematurely. The premature elimination of this
necessary learning would impede the members of this life to enjoy that
life in its fullness and completeness. Because any life depends entirely on
the state of mind of its carriers, what kind of life would it be?
Theoretically speaking, you would have the fullness and completeness of
the positive state’s life but, practically speaking, because of dependency
factors of any life on the state of mind of the sentient entities who occupy
that life, such life could not be full and complete. This is the paradox of
this hypothetical situation. Do you see it, Peter?
Peter: Yes, I see it and understand it clearly.
The Lord Jesus Christ: So, in your creative effort, how do you give an
opportunity to other types of lives to come to their own fruition? You
start your creative effort with building separate dimensions and their
respective levels, putting them in a closed, self-contained loop and
connecting them only by means of symbolical and corresponding
depictions with a special language which would assure some degree of
connection among all of them. This connection, of course, is indirect but
it is sufficient to maintain the proper function of My Creation in a unified
goal-direction for the purpose of a buildup toward the final completeness
and fullness of the positive state’s life. At the very same time, because it
is indirect and symbolic, it doesn’t impede the necessary manifestation of
other types of lives, giving everyone an opportunity to learn what not to
choose and what not to incorporate in their future lives.
More and more, as these important lessons are being learned, you bring
your creative efforts closer and closer toward the ultimate goal which
ends in the ultimate establishment of the complete and full life of the
positive state. In the process of this buildup, gradually and slowly you
begin the process of direct connection, unification and integration of all
levels and degrees of My Creation’s dimensions and all their aspects and
steps. The final act, in this respect, is the total elimination of separation,
disunion and isolation that has been in place up to that point, leading
automatically toward the abolishment of the negative state and all its
products.
This is how the process of My creative effort proceeds. In order to
accomplish this most important goal, in the process of this buildup, it
was necessary to take several important steps. First of all, it was
necessary for Me personally to physically enter all other types of lives in
order to experience those lives the way all sentient entities do in their
own unique lives. This entrance was not limited only to human life and
life of the negative state in all its respective Hells and the Zone of
Displacement. It included, also, all other types of lives which exist
throughout My Creation in their infinite varieties of ways and manners.
It is impossible to accomplish the needed unification, integration and
direct connection among all of them without having such a direct
experience in a practical sense. In the process of gathering My practical
experiences of all mentioned lives, I established in them conditions which
would enable them, when the time is right, to come out of their
separation, isolation and limitation and reconnect with all others,
becoming a unified, cohesive and integrated one whole.
Secondly, for that purpose, I changed My Own Nature completely in
order to accommodate Myself to the level of all sentient entities in being
and existence and pseudo-being and pseudo-existence, as well as to
humans. It would be impossible to accomplish this process from the
position of My Old Nature because no one could discern, comprehend and
know properly, what My True Nature is. If you are unable to know it, you
are unable to establish with Me any meaningful and fulfilling
relationship which could lead toward your own unique unification and
integration with Me. In that case, the state of separation would have to
exist forever because I, Who, in an ultimate sense, am the only possible
Integrator and Unifier of all and everything, would be in some state,
condition or place which is unapproachable, incomprehensible and
impossible to discern. If this were to be the case, the status quo of all and
everything, no matter where or when, would have to stay indefinitely. In
that case, everyone would be locked forever in their own condition and
state without any hope of coming out of it to eternity. Can you imagine
what kind of life it would be?
In order to avoid this kind of impossible outcome, I chose by My Own
Freedom of Choice to experience directly all forms of lives manifested in
their respective sentient entities. I became one of them so that I could
relate to them on their level, making it possible to know Me directly
without any mediation. The necessity for such important knowledge and
experience is rooted in the fact that it is impossible to begin the process
of unification, integration and interconnection from the position of being
outside of them. You have to be inside their own life to establish such
conditions for future unification, integration and interconnection. The
outside attempt to do so cannot take hold because of the multiversal law
which requires that everything begins from within and proceeds to
without where it completes its process of manifestation. This law is the
foundation of any creative effort or any life at all. It cannot be broken
under any condition. Its breaking led, as you know, toward activation of
the negative state and fabrication of humans. So, because of that, if I
were to try to do this important process from without, or outside of their
lives, the only thing I would be able to accomplish is to reinforce their
lifestyle and give license for the negative state and human life to stay
forever in their own disjointed, non-unified and non-integrated condition.
This would mean that the state of separation, isolation and closed loop of
all and everything would also stay forever without any possibility of any
change. As a consequence of such an act, the fullness and completeness of
life of the positive state could never come to its desirable, and expected
by all, fruition.
From what was revealed so far, in this respect, you will be able to intuit
the extent of My Works in the process of My incarnation into the various
forms and conditions of lives of sentient entities everywhere and
everywhen and why it was absolutely vital and necessary for Me to do so.
As you see from this discourse, My incarnation was not limited only to
your planet and into your human life and the negative state’s Zone of
Displacement and all its respective Hells, but it was undertaken in all
other states, conditions and places in the multiverse. How this
incarnation was accomplished in other places, states and conditions of all
sentient entities, cannot be described in your human terms at this
particular time. You would not be able to understand it. It is sufficient
for you to know the reasons for My needs to incarnate into them — as
described above.
Thirdly, as you know, Peter, after I acquired My New Nature which
incorporated all gathered experiences from all states, conditions and
places of My incarnation, especially and particularly from the
incarnation into human life on planet Zero, I created a New Universe as
described previously. As you see from this revelation, the New Universe
in its structural nature, reflects, in its relative condition, My Absolute
Absolutely New Nature. At this point, it is time for you to know that the
structure and nature of the New Universe is not limited to only
containment of My Divine Human aspects, but it also contains all other
aspects derived from My experiences with living amongst all other forms
of lives. Thus, for the first time in being and existence and pseudo-being
and pseudo-existence, a creation came to its fruition which structurally
incorporates, in its nature, all elements of everything and everyone in
being and existence and pseudo-being and pseudo-existence, as well as
all aspects of the typical human life in its purely positive connotation, as
contained in Me personally.
In some ways, you can consider this creation — the New Universe — as
the final act in the process of establishing a condition from which the
unification, integration and interconnectedness of all and everything can
and may begin. The New Universe can be considered a means through
which, and by which, I will accomplish this final act, the act that is the
most crucial, the most desirable and most expected one by all concerned.
As you know, Peter, in My Absolute State, which is now rooted in My
Absolute New Nature, due to its absoluteness, it would be impossible to
accomplish this goal without, first, having a relative condition that fully
approximates My Absolute New Nature. A relative being can
comprehend and accept only something which is of its own relative
condition. It cannot embrace and, subsequently, incorporate into
himself/herself something which is outside the scope of his/her
experiential mode. And yet, in order to accomplish this goal of
unification, integration, and interconnection to and with all, it is very
vital and crucial for every sentient entity to have such an experience. By
being able to comprehend the nature and structure of My New Universe,
and what it entails, every sentient entity has, or will have, the full grasp
of what My New Nature is all about. Once this grasp enters his/her
mind, the condition is set up for such unification, integration and
interconnection to take place. And not only that but, most importantly,
the condition is set up for everyone to accept Me in My New Nature.
Once this acceptance happens, the process of unification, integration and
interconnection will be fully established and the negative state, as well
as its end product — human life, in its purely negative connotation will
be no more. Following the completion of this process, the establishment
of fullness and completeness of life of the positive state will begin.
As far as your role and position are concerned, as My true
representatives on planet Zero, you are to work toward this unification,
integration and interconnection within your own selves. As you
remember from yesterday’s Dialog (53rd Dialog), you were informed about
an important spiritual correspondence that the three sources of My New
Revelation have. The first source relates directly to your Spiritual Mind
and to the Spiritual World. The second source relates to your interior
mind and to the intermediate world or World of Spirits. The third source
— these Dialogs — relates to your external mind and to the physical
world. It also relates to the state of unification, integration and
interconnection of all aspects of your mind, as well as those worlds. By
continuously reading, accepting and practicing what these three sources
contain, you will be able to build a foundation within your own
personalized and individualized life for initiation and establishment of
your own unification, integration and interconnection of all aspects of
your mind, as well as your participation in the same connected,
integrated and unified mode with all the mentioned worlds. In the
process of this buildup, you will be able, more and more, to get rid of the
purely negative aspects of your typical human nature. Consequently, you
will be able to get rid of the negative state in your own life. By doing
that, you will be able to contribute immensely toward the ultimate
elimination of the negative state and its end product — human life, and
toward the building of the positive state in its complete and full nature
and manifestation. At the present time, this is your primary goal as My
true representatives. In whatever position, work, job, assignment, etc.,
you find yourself at each moment of time in your life on planet Zero, no
matter what it is or is not, as long as you strive to live your life in
accordance with the principles of the three sources of My New
Revelation, you will be doing your work for Me and you will be able to
effectively and successfully accomplish this goal and fulfill your mission
which you have from Me. Of course, as always, only if you choose to do so
by your own free will and choice.
Peter: Thank You very much for this beautiful explanation and
revelation. Is there any other comment You wish to make at this time?
The Lord Jesus Christ: Just a brief comment on your experience with
Dan Barba during your participation at the concert in New York’s
Carnegie Hall. There are some important spiritual correspondences
contained in the music to which you were listening. The concert was
given by the Vienna Philharmonic Orchestra, under the direction of
Riccardo Muti. Two pieces of music were played, with one additional
encore. The first piece was Schubert’s Symphony No. 3 in D major,
D.200; the second piece was Tchaikovsky’s Manfred Symphony, op. 58;
and the encore was one of Johan Strauss’ waltzes. This was an
interesting selection of music, as was its interpretation by conductor
Riccardo Muti.
In some ways, you can compare that music with the evolution of a
different life than the life of the positive state. It also can be compared to
the search for meaning of that life. Schubert’s Symphony No. 3 reflects
the beginning of that life which is full of hope and exuberance of the
youthfulness of that life which assumes to have a purpose and meaning
in itself and by itself. For that reason it is light, full of delight and
pleasure without any worries about the future outcome of such a life. But
here comes Tchaikovsky’s Manfred Symphony, which reflects the full
consequences, outcomes and results of such a life, different from the life
of the positive state. It is life full of tragedy, darkness, brooding, turmoil,
uncertainties, misery, pain, suffering, desperation and futile hope in
being able to find some kind of reasonable meaning for its being and
existence, in itself and by itself. The final realization comes, that life, in
itself and by itself, has no meaning and purpose other than to provide
one with the understanding that life of this nature leads nowhere and
one has to transcend it in order to find the true meaning and purpose of
any life. This transcendence was reflected in Strauss’s waltz, the encore,
which, in its simple, uncomplicated and delightful manner, conveyed to
you that the meaning of life is not in a complicated, convoluted,
tremendously complex and difficult nature, but in something that totally
lacks these characteristics. So, as you see from this understanding, one
starts one’s life with the hope for the best, loses that hope in the process
of the manifestation of that life, learns not to expect to find any positive
meaning in that type of life, in itself and by itself, and finally, after
establishing this fact, one ends in the new hope of being able to find the
true life and its true meaning. Of course, there is more to this music than
that but it is sufficient for now.
Peter: That was a nice explanation and interpretation. Thank You very
much. Is there anything else today?
The Lord Jesus Christ: No, nothing else today, Peter. Take care of
other business and have a nice day.
Source: DIALOGUES WITH THE LORD JESUS CHRIST PART 1.
