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March 17, 1999
Peter: Before asking my own questions, as well as some questions by
others, I would like to ask if You have anything to add or to comment on
anything at all?
The Lord Jesus Christ: Thank you, Peter, for asking Me to talk first. I
have only one brief elaboration on the issue of My incarnation into the
relative conditions throughout My Creation, on planet Zero and in the
Zone of Displacement via planet Zero. Your understanding of this concept
has to be expanded. Up to this point, the majority of humans and others
in the negative state assumed that I incarnated only on planet Zero. No
one knows anything about My special type of incarnation into other
levels of being and existence and pseudo-being and pseudo-existence. My
incarnation on planet Zero, and via planet Zero in other regions of the
Zone of Displacement, can be considered as a final, most significant act
that culminated in the completion of the process of the acquirement of all
tangible or practical experiences of all lives and pseudo-lives of sentient
entities everywhere and everywhen. The reason for the need to have such
direct practical experiences was explained in the previous Dialog. And
although, in My New Revelation — in the Big Book — there is a hint
about My incarnation elsewhere, at that time it was not proper to give
any further explanation about that act. The only thing that was
mentioned in the Big Book was that, before incarnating on planet Zero, I
undertook a special type of visit to all other physical dimensions where I
acquired the necessary experiences, in this respect, and established a
certain condition that would prevent the reoccurrence of the activation of
the negative state at that level.
At this time, it is important for you to realize the full impact of this
particular revelation to come out of your limited understanding of the act
of My incarnation elsewhere. As explained in yesterday’s Dialog, any
knowledge, understanding and acceptance of My Nature, and subsequent
establishment with Me of a very private, intimate and personal
relationship, can be acquired only from everyone’s unique position and
nature. Because that position and nature are relative, they are unable to
fully grasp the Absolute Position and Nature. If I were to fail to come
down to the level of the relative sentient entities, and become as one of
them, they could never be able to establish such a vital, crucial and life-
giving relationship. In that case, they would eventually all succumb to
the negative state and the negative state would eternally win. You have
to understand very clearly, Peter, and all who read these words, that
inability to establish such a relationship with Me automatically results
in the activation of the negative state. If you were unable to do so, you
would ultimately end in the denial of My Absolute Being and Existence.
Such a denial leads to the production of the negative state. In order to
prevent this from ever happening, it was necessary for Me to incarnate in
all forms, states, conditions and places of the relative sentient entities
and to establish a relationship with them from their own position.
Only from within everyone’s personal, individual and private position
can any meaningful, loving, fulfilling and lasting relationship be
established. There is no other way. And this is all that I wanted to
comment about this morning. You may now, Peter, ask your questions or
questions of others.
Peter: Thank You very much for this important explanation. The first
question comes from Rick Gonzalez of Miami, Florida. Some aspects of
his question were answered previously in other Dialogs which he hasn’t
yet had an opportunity to read. He is asking whether those pseudo-
creators who are present on planet Zero in physical form know who they
are and how they got here? Or are they taking control of humans proper
to do their work on planet Zero? Moreover, he is asking whether the
pseudo-creators and renegades know who Your representatives on planet
Zero are; and if they do, are they closely establishing themselves around
us in many ways for the purpose of not only keeping us from our mission,
but also to keep Your New Revelation from spreading throughout planet
Zero and the negative state?
The Lord Jesus Christ: The presence of the pseudo-creators on planet
Zero is manifested in three ways. The first way is from their own
dimension where they are presently positioned and established. By a
special type of manipulation of correspondences, and some other means,
impossible for you to comprehend at the present time, they are able to
observe, watch and exert a direct influence on all events on planet Zero.
This particular way doesn’t require their direct physical presence. Most
of their work and influence is done from this particular position. The
reason for this setup is in the fact that this particular position is not
hindered by the limitations of the human physical form. As you
remember, it was indicated to you previously that the pseudo-creators
were in the process of experimenting with the development of a special
type of physical human body which would look exactly like a human but
which would not be hindered or impeded by typical human limitations.
In a limited degree, they came close to fabricating such a body. It gave
some of them an opportunity to appear on this planet in this new form,
indistinguishable from any other human. This is the second way they
appeared here. The third way is by the process of a walk-in. Some
humans, by their own previous agreement, allow their bodies and minds
to be used by a select number of pseudo-creators who occupy them and do
all their works through them. Because in all three ways they are in full
control of everything they do and what they experience, the pseudo-
creators have full knowledge of who they are and what their purpose is,
in this respect.
As you know, the renegades function on a level of 80% of the power and
abilities of the pseudo-creators. Because, as mentioned before, they are in
constant competition with the pseudo-creators, they are doing everything
in their power to duplicate everything the pseudo-creators do. However,
the renegades’ position and purpose is very much different from that of
the pseudo-creators. It was explained in one of the previous Dialogs.
From the standpoint of the establishment of the Great Alliance, which
was elaborated upon previously, it is obvious that the pseudo-creators
know precisely who you are. They have known this from the very
beginning. After all, by observing and experimenting on you, shortly
after their appearance here, they restrained themselves from destroying
humanity and planet Zero. You cannot observe and experiment on
someone if you don’t know who they are. Also, you cannot enter into an
agreement, as depicted in the rules of the Great Alliance, if you have no
idea with whom you are entering into such an agreement and alliance.
As far as the renegades are concerned, because they are in opposition to
the pseudo-creators and, of course, to the Great Alliance, their access to
you and to the knowledge of who you are is limited by the factor of their
separation and being outside of the mentioned agreement and alliance.
You can compare their situation with the conditions that existed during
humans’ World Wars and the Cold War. You don’t know all the details of
the strengths and weaknesses of your enemy. However, you establish a
well-designed system of intelligence and spying in order to gather as
much information about your enemy as possible. Because of this factor,
they derive their knowledge about you from this type of source. You can
consider it guesswork. They are guessing who you are but they don’t
know exactly whether it is precisely you or not. On the other hand, even
if the renegades were to know exactly who you are, and based on that
knowledge, if they were to try to impede or to interfere with your work
for Me, they could do nothing to you in the negative sense because of the
insulation factor, as well as counterintelligence, which was described by
Me before in one of the previous Dialogs. This insulation factor works
both ways and it is also the foundation of your work with the pseudo-
creators. So, don’t be concerned about any danger for you in this respect.
The only time you are vulnerable and may become a target for the
renegades and their minions is if you continuously function only from the
position of the negative human aspects of your nature, forgetting to
concentrate on Me, on the positive state, on the members of your
spiritual family, and especially on the members of the New Universe. In
that case, the renegades and their minions may become fully aware of
who you are and from that position, interfere with your work and cause
you some serious trouble. This possibility tells you clearly how vitally
important and crucial it is for you to constantly concentrate on our
presence with you and have all of us in your thoughts, feelings and in
everything else in all aspects of your life, and to function only from the
position of the non-human aspects of your nature which you have directly
from Me. That way, the insulation factor cannot be penetrated and you
will remain safe.
The reason why My New Revelation is not being widely read and
accepted by humans on your planet and how its availability is,
nevertheless, registered in their unconscious mind, and how it will be
utilized for their benefit later on, was explained in previous Dialogs, to
which Rick, and all others, are referred.
Peter: The next question is an interesting one. You know, I was very
curious whether anyone would notice some discrepancy between Your
statement as recorded in the Bible and the same statement, as entered in
one of the previous Dialogs. And behold, a young man in the Czech
Republic by the name of Radomir Bazala, noticed it and is asking for the
reasons behind this discrepancy. It relates to Your statement recorded in
the Gospels about your mother, sisters and brothers. In that recording
the word ‘father’ is omitted. However, in the Dialogs, the word ‘father’ is
added to the words ‘mother, sisters and brothers.’ I was very well aware
of this discrepancy but knowing the reasons for this, I restrained myself
from asking that question directly. Also, I wanted to see if anyone would
notice this peculiar omission. So, this young man, being that he is so
perceptive and thorough, is wondering whether the Czech translation of
that statement is imprecise and the word ‘father’ was inadvertently
omitted or whether there are some other reasons for this discrepancy.
The Lord Jesus Christ: Of course, Peter, as you know, in the recording
of the Gospels in the Bible, the word ‘father’ was purposefully omitted.
Although no mistakes in this respect are in any biblical translations,
regardless in which language, nevertheless, it was permitted by Me that
the word ‘father’ would not be included in the original text until now in
these Dialogs. Don’t forget that during My incarnation on planet Zero,
most of the time I was functioning from the position of being The only
begotten Son of God (see Chapter Two in The New Revelation of The
Lord Jesus Christ). That God was defined as being My Heavenly
Father. So, because of that, at that time, it was absolutely spiritually
essential that everyone would perceive My origin as coming not from an
earthly father, but from the Heavenly Divine Father as the only One
Indivisible God. Also, don’t forget in what kind of society I was positioned
at that time. The masculine principle of fatherhood was emphasized
above all and everything. Under those conditions, if I were to include the
word ‘father’ in My response, it would be perceived by everyone who was
listening to Me (not only by humans but by everyone else in all other
dimensions of My Creation) that I am rejecting My heavenly origin — My
very Essence, contained in the meaning of the word ‘father;’ as well as I
would be violating the fundamental setup on which that society was
built, and on which it functioned at that time.
On the other hand, at that time, and in the connotation of the meaning of
the words ‘mother,’ ‘sisters’ and ‘brothers,’ which were used by Me, the
origin of My human body and its human mentality, full of the
characteristics of the negative state, were being rejected as having no
part of My True Nature. It was not that I was rejecting My so-called
physical human mother, sisters and brothers, but what they represented
at that time. They were representing all humanity in all its negative,
evil, falsified and distorted aspects. In essence, I was rejecting the
negative state in its totality by not admitting into Me anything of its
nature. Here is a very important factor: By refusing to see them,
symbolically speaking, I was refusing the negative state to enter Me or to
exert influence on Me. Instead, I pointed out at My disciples who were
representing, at that time, My positive state in their persons, considering
only the positive state to be My true relatives, because only the positive
state which stems from My Absolutely Positive Nature, can be admitted
back into My Nature.
At the present time, however, because I am functioning from the position
of My New Nature as the Only One God Indivisible, it is necessary to
include in that designation the word ‘father’ in order to clearly delineate
the difference between a human type of father and what the word ‘father’
means as related to Me personally. In the present connotation of that
word, as well as the words ‘mother,’ ‘sisters’ and ‘brothers,’ it is necessary
to reject any other types of fatherhood, motherhood, sisterhood or
brotherhood other than My own because I am the only true Father,
Mother, Sister and Brother to all and to everyone in an absolute sense,
that is to say, I am the only true Absolute Relative to all, and all are
relative to Me. This is a unifying and integrative principle on which the
true life of the positive state, as well as any other life, stands. Without it,
no possibility of the sustenance of any life would exist.
The point here that needs to be realized again and again and again, is
that there is only One Source of Life — My Absolute Life in all its
aspects. The reason why we are emphasizing this principle so much is
that on the rejection of this fact, the negative state and human life were
built. Thus, in order to bring the negative state and its human life to
their ultimate end, it is necessary to bring to everyone’s attention that no
other source of life exists. To admit someone else as being your mother,
father, brother and sister, or any other relative, means, in essence, to
deny the only true source of life and ascribe its origin to someone or
something else which doesn’t have such a prerogative or ability. In that
case, you are admitting pure falsities into your conceptualization of the
origin of life. Admitting and living in falsities means to be in the negative
state. This is the reason why, during our dialoging, it was necessary to
include the word ‘father’ in that Biblical text in order to bring to
everyone’s attention this important spiritual fact. As you see, Peter, our
Dialogs also function as a corrective device for some statements that
were made at that time, and recorded in the Gospels, but which are
needed to be properly understood at the present time.
Peter: Thank You very much for this explanation. I have my own
question which, I believe, was extensively explained in the course of
transmission of Your New Revelation but which popped up once again
during my reading of an article sent to me by Dr. Beth Ann Voien. That
article contained an interview with a doctor who claimed some marvelous
successes in healing whenever she or other people prayed on behalf of
sick ones. The question is not about the effectiveness of prayer, which
has already been answered by You in one of the earlier Dialogs, but
about that doctor’s statement that You are the source of both good and
evil. To justify her claims, that doctor quoted Your statement recorded in
the Old Testament, in Prophet Isaiah, Chapter 45, verse 7, and I quote, ‘I
form the light and create darkness, I make peace and create calamity; I,
the Lord, do all these things.’ This text is taken out by me from The New
King James Version of the Bible. Her quote is somewhat different as far
as the word ‘calamity’ is concerned. Her quote reads like this: ‘I make
peace and create evil.’ I am not sure whether it is her own interpretation
or whether she quotes some archaic version of the biblical translation
(such as, for example, the old King James Version of the Bible). Of
course, it doesn’t make any difference because the word ‘calamity’ in
itself and by itself may denote some evil act. Do You wish to elaborate on
this issue?
The Lord Jesus Christ: Yes, Peter, I do wish to elaborate on that
statement. Although the reason for these kinds of statements in the
Bible were extensively and properly explained in My New Revelation,
some additional comments would be beneficial to make in this respect.
Besides what was revealed about this issue in My New Revelation, which
related to the need to use the language of the negative state and the
language of humans, that is to say, the need to speak in their own
language — the language of projections and expectations, the following
additional information is offered to you and to all readers of these
Dialogs: In order to keep the entire Creation, the Zone of Displacement
and human life intact and functional, despite the fact of the separation,
isolation and closed-in mode of their lives, it was necessary to derive all
events of their lives, no matter what it had been, from one unifying and
integrated source. Someone had to be made responsible, in an absolute
sense, for everything which had been happening in the entire being and
existence and pseudo-being and pseudo-existence and on planet Zero. If
more than one source of such events in an absolute sense were to be
considered, it would lead to a spiritually extremely dangerous conclusion
that there is more than one Absolute Source. By this assumption,
because we are talking here about the origin of evil or calamity, everyone
everywhere and everywhen would be locked in their condition for good
and forever. The confusion, stemming from such an assumption, would
be of such great proportions, that it would undermine the life of every
sentient entity and, subsequently, they would commit existential suicide.
In order to prevent this from happening, I chose, by My own free will and
choice, to take that responsibility and proclaim Myself to be the only
source of all events and happenings. This statement is not that far off
from the reality of the discussed situation. After all, if you take into
consideration the important factor of My permission for any event or
anything else to happen, then nothing can happen at all without My
permission.
As mentioned many times before, a crucial distinction has to be made
here between willing something and permitting something. It is not in
My Nature to will anything of an evil or calamitous nature. However, for
the sake of important spiritual learning, as we have emphasized several
times before, I permit many things to happen to give an opportunity for
such learning to occur. This is all part of an illustration and
demonstration of other types and modes of life which didn’t originate in
Me directly, but which were permitted by Me to be established in order to
provide everyone with the opportunity to make choices to eliminate the
idea from everyone’s mind that they have the right to reject Me as being
the only Source of Life, etc. On the other hand, if I am considered by
everyone in the negative state to be the source of their predicaments,
calamities or evils, then, by the logical conclusion of that assumption, I
am also the only one who will be able to save them and bring them out of
the negative state. Should someone else be considered such a source, and
I, the source of Good and Positive only, then, again, by the logic of this
assumption, no one would be out there who could change anyone’s
current status to eternity. The assumed different source of evil would
never want to relinquish its powers or recede from its evilness. In that
case, no change in anyone’s status could occur.
However, if you have control and power over all states and conditions,
you are the only one who is able to change anything at all. By permitting
anyone in the negative state to consider Me the source and causative
factors of both good and evil, and by using their own negative language
in describing this situation, I established a firm foundation on which I
will be able to change their status from being evil and negative to
becoming good and positive. With this understanding, the above quoted
verse will make better sense to any prospective reader of these Dialogs.
And this is all that we need to discuss today. Prepare yourself to greet
our arriving Lyudmila Savelieva from Moscow, Russia. It will be a very
productive time with her. Have a nice day and visit.
Peter: Thank You very much.
Source: DIALOGUES WITH THE LORD JESUS CHRIST PART 1.