To read aloud
FIFTY EIGHTH DIALOGUE
March 23, 1999
Peter: This morning I would like to ask You for some additional
clarification on the issue of the literal meaning of events described in the
Bible and on their symbolical representation. Yesterday, in my
discussion with Heather, she raised a question of a possible contradiction
between the statement that nothing in the Bible should be taken
literally, and the statement that everything happened literally. Then I
received two questions from Mr. Beneš of Slovakia and one question from
Tom Oudal of Texas. May we address this issue and those questions?
The Lord Jesus Christ: Yes, Peter, you most certainly may. Let us
begin with the issues raised by Heather about the possible contradiction,
and then we’ll go into answering Mr. Beneš’ two questions and Tom’s one
question.
As you remember from previous explanations, at the time of the exodus
of the children of Israel from Egypt, and in the entire history of writing
of the books contained in the Bible, humanity on planet Zero was
positioned in the extreme state of externalization and ritualization. No
direct perception of the spiritual reality of life existed. In order to
maintain humanity alive and living, some modes of indirect connection to
that spiritual reality needed to be established. Otherwise they could not
survive. That mode was found in the spiritual correspondences. The way
these correspondences function is by selecting certain individuals,
groups, nations, lands, objects, animals, plants, etc. who would be
assigned, by their lifestyle, behavior, structure, dynamics and the way
they go about the fulfillment of their everyday needs, and anything else,
to represent these spiritual factors of life. In most instances, they are not
consciously aware of their function in that role and that the purpose of
their life on planet Zero is to be representatives and correspondences of
these facts. Thus, whatever happens in their life, in a literal sense, does
really happen but, at the very same time, events of their life and
experiences are representations, correspondences and depictions of some
important spiritual reality and meaning.
Therefore, when we are talking about not taking anything literally that
which is contained in the Bible, we are talking about the need to look on
those representations, correspondences and depictions embedded in
those events, and not on the events themselves. The events in themselves
and by themselves, apart from what they represent, correspond to, and
depict, have no meaning from the spiritual standpoint. So, when we say
or confirm that the crossing of the Red Sea on dry land by the children of
Israel literally happened, it is not the crossing itself that you should
consider but what it spiritually represents and signifies — the way it was
explained in the Fifty Sixth Dialog, for example.
However, there is another point to this requirement. It relates to the
prophetic predictions contained both in The Old and The New
Testament, respectively. As you know, the literal interpretation of those
prophecies brought to humanity nothing but disappointment and trouble.
We mentioned in the previous Dialog (57) about the tragic outcome of
such an interpretation. Because of that, you are being warned to not
make the same mistake as the majority of humanity is making by trying
to ascribe to them the literal meaning or that they will come true exactly
and literally as it is predicted by them. As you remember from the
previous explanations in this respect, the majority of such predictions
and their actual realization happen either in the spiritual world, through
its various dimensions and pseudo-dimensions, or they are spiritual
correspondences which describe possible consequences of choices that
humans and other creatures would or would not make.
So, to summarize, if you look at our statements in the light of the above
described explanation, no contradiction exists in them.
Now, Peter, you may proceed with the other questions.
Peter: Thank You very much for this clarification. Let me present You
now with the first question posed by Mr. Beneš. In the latest Dialogs we
were talking about the principle of integration, wholeness and
unification of the three aspects or dimensions of Your Creation and how
important they are for all of us. Is it possible for Your representatives, in
the course of their life on planet Zero, to accomplish or to reach
integration and unification of their mind the way it is described in The
New Revelation of The Lord Jesus Christ, in its Chapter Five?
Without following the procedures described in that chapter, which are no
longer valid, is there any possibility of accomplishing this most desirable
goal of the unification of one’s mind and to connect directly with You as
You reside in us?
The Lord Jesus Christ: Well, the answer to that question is contained,
to some extent, in the same chapter. It was said there that the full
transformation of one’s mind is not possible while you still reside on
planet Zero and are in the human body and its pseudo-life. When we are
talking about transformation we are talking about this most desirable
unification and integration of all aspects of one’s sentient mind, and
elimination or getting rid of the pseudo-sentient mind and all its aspects.
Thus, in answering Mr. Beneš’ question, such a total and full integration
and unification is not possible while you live on planet Zero and your
spirit and soul are bound to function from and through the position of
your physical body and the typical aspects of your human nature. They
impede, block and interfere with the possibility of completion of this
process.
However, there are different degrees and levels of such a process of
integration, unification and transformation that one may and can
accomplish while still living on planet Zero, functioning from the position
of one’s human body and human nature. My true representatives are
uniquely different and are therefore, on a different level and in a
different degree of their roles, assignments and the way they function
and what they can accomplish in this respect, as well as how they may
accomplish it. Here we are talking again about individualization and
personalization of their lives and personalities. Also, we are talking here
about the original agreement about how far and to what extent they will
need to go in the process of transformation, integration and unification of
their minds and connection with Me within their minds. Some can go far,
some not so far, and some will be only at the very beginning of this
process. However, regardless of how far they can go in this process, their
accomplishments in this respect, from the spiritual standpoint and needs
that exist for the benefit of all, are required exactly to the degree they
are able to establish them in their lives. So, you should not feel bad or
less valuable, or less accomplished than anyone who might be, relatively
speaking, much farther into this process than you are.
However, the situation, in this respect, has somewhat changed since
these Dialogs have been in the process of recording and since the
currently ongoing shift has been taking place. The change of your roles
and positions from being agents of the positive state and to becoming My
true representatives on planet Zero, gives all of you a greater possibility
of accomplishing this goal than was previously feasible or conceivable.
The way you have to understand this statement is that now you have
three sources of My New Revelation, and the awareness to what they
correspond and signify. By their means, that is to say, by reading them
on a daily basis, by making them the top priority, or number one priority
of your life and everyday living and by making an all-out effort on your
part to practice and exemplify their principles and what they contain in
your life, you will be able to intensify and to go much further in the
process of transformation, unification and integration of your mind and
being in control of your human pseudo-mind, without allowing this
pseudo-mind to rule and influence your life. As this process goes on, the
sense of your connectedness with Me within your mind will be more
discernable, recognizable, perceptible and more and more felt and
experienced.
Due to the fact that you are still positioned in human life and in a typical
human body, this accomplishment will still be limited and not completed.
Only after you leave your human life, that completion will be actualized
and realized to its fullest possible extent. At the same time, while living
on planet Zero, you will still experience considerable individual
differences in how far and to what extent this process will go. And in
some cases, for some very important spiritual reasons, no changes or
very insignificant changes will occur if looked at them from the
standpoint of your external perception and discernment. However, don’t
be deceived by this false perception and discernment. On the inner level,
on the level of your true mind, these changes will be enormous. And not
only that, but by not giving in to these false perceptions, and by
continuing in your effort to practice what is given to you in the three
sources of My New Revelation, you are preparing or paving the way for
yourself and others to successfully and immediately finish this goal after
your arrival in the spiritual world. That way, you will also be able to
begin without any delay in your mission and work for Me, from the
position of that world.
At this point in time, you have absolutely no idea how important it is for
you and all of us that you continue in your efforts to read the three
sources of My New Revelation and practice their principles. If you do
that, you will be fulfilling your mission and assignment that you have
from Me, while still living on planet Zero. And this is so, regardless of
whether you have or don’t have any sense of My intimate connection with
you in your mind. I can assure you that, by the process of that reading
and practicing, you have that connection to the fullest possible degree.
Peter: That was a nice explanation. Thank You so much for it. Mr.
Beneš’ second question is a very interesting one. You know, for many
centuries people were wondering, to no avail, what it was that You wrote
on the ground during Your encounter with the scribes and Pharisees and
a woman caught in adultery? So, Mr. Beneš is asking if it is possible for
us to, finally, learn about this hidden mystery.
The Lord Jesus Christ: It is time for you to know about the true
meaning of that encounter. It is not by coincidence that I personally
inspired Mr. Beneš to ask that question. Even though Mr. Beneš
complains or claims that he has no access to Me in his own within, he is
very wrong about it. Not only has he an access, but he is very much in
tune with all aspects of the spiritual reality and his own intuition. The
only problem with him is that he does not recognize on his conscious level
that this is the case. Perhaps his expectations of how such a connection
should be experienced by him is not entirely correct or feasible from the
standpoint of his own assignment, mission and role.
But let us go back to the question at hand. You have to look at that
encounter, described in John 8:3-11, from three aspects. The first aspect
is the act of writing itself, and why I chose that mode of communication
and medium for writing; the second aspect is where or on what I wrote or
chose to write it; and the third aspect is what really did I write on the
ground.
Let us look at each aspect separately. The choice to write at all and the
medium of writing has an important spiritual significance and meaning.
The mode of writing is the means of communication from the externals to
the externals. Or the mode of conveyance of something that is contained
in your within but cannot be expressed by any other means but the
external ones. If someone is positioned in the externals and relates to
others who also are in the externals, you have to use their method of
communication for expressing any ideas of any significance. Otherwise,
they wouldn’t understand you. As you know, I positioned Myself in the
most externals and related to humans of that time only from that
position. Hence, a choice to write something that I needed to express. To
emphasize even more the factor of externals, I chose to write it with My
finger. A finger of a human hand or, to be precise, its function,
corresponds to the ultimate expression of the external direction of all
physical activities and their manipulation. In human life you cannot
physically write by the means, solely, of your mind. In most instances
you have to use your fingers to do so. In this case, I was illustrating all
the limitations to which human life was exposed. But at the same time, I
was illustrating that it is possible to convey important spiritual ideas
even by such extreme external means which were the only ones available
to humans.
The second aspect, of writing on the ground after I stooped down,
signifies the need to embed something very important into the very
essence and substance on which the negative state and its human life
was built. The ground corresponds to the very nature of anyone or
anything on which such a nature can be actualized and realized. If you
want to convey something of vital and crucial importance in order to
make a point or to cause a desirable effect, you have to embed it into the
very ground — in this case, in their very nature. Otherwise, it would be
only a fleeting impression which disappears as soon as it crosses your
awareness. In our case, as you know, this encounter was happening in
the midst of the negative state with the representatives and agents of the
negative state. Thus, I was putting or embedding something very
important in their very nature without their conscious awareness that I
was doing so. This was something that related to their future salvation
after they fulfilled the purpose and goal for which they chose to be in the
negative state. At the same time, I was putting or embedding in their
nature, or in the ground, something that, in the future, would be utilized
for the total and complete elimination of the negative state when the
time would come to do so.
Now comes the third aspect. What was it that I wrote on the ground?
Obviously, in order to write something on the ground it has to have
enough dust for My words to be readable. The dust corresponds to and
signifies the transience and temporality of the pseudo-being and pseudo-
existence of the negative state and the negative aspects of human nature.
By writing in the dust on the ground I was conveying to everyone who
was observing Me (and this observation was not limited to only humans
who came to Me at that time and to the woman they brought with them
but, most importantly, to everyone else in My Creation and pseudo-
creation) that the negative state and its end product — human life, have
only temporary and transient value and that, despite that fact,
nevertheless, they will be saved only by the means which were embedded
and written in the very structure of their nature, represented here by the
ground and My writing on it.
Notice please, that I stooped down twice and wrote twice on the ground.
Stooping down corresponds to and signifies My choice to come to the level
of the negative state and human life and to embed into them all
conditions and means for their salvation, as well as salvation of everyone
trapped in the negative state and for its ultimate elimination.
In the first instance of My writing, I wrote from the position of My
Absolute Unconditional Divine Love and Its Femininity. In the second
instance, I wrote from the position of My Absolute Unconditional Divine
Wisdom and its Masculinity. Thus, I was writing from the position of
their integration, unification and oneness. In the first instance, I wrote
down the words ‘mercy, compassion and empathy.’ Those are the
attributes of pure unconditional love. In the second instance, I wrote
down the words ‘understanding, acceptance and forgiveness.’ Those
are the attributes of pure unconditional wisdom. Symbolically speaking,
by writing those most important, vital and crucial words on the ground, I
placed and embedded them in everyone’s unconscious mind (as far as
humans and creatures of the negative state are concerned; all others in
the positive state were consciously aware of them) so that they could be
utilized, when the time comes, for the accomplishment of the most
desirable goal — salvation of all, elimination of the negative state, and
activation of the fullness and completeness of the life of the positive
state.
The message, in this respect, is very clear, and it is directed to all
everywhere and everywhen, without exception or exclusion — both in the
positive state and the negative state and human life — that the only
means by which this goal can be accomplished at all is by those
attributes of My Absolute Divine Love and Absolute Divine Wisdom
which were written and embedded in everyone’s mind, structurally.
There is no other way. If I were not to write them and ingrain them in
everyone’s mind structurally, even if those in the negative state and in
human life are not consciously aware that such is the case, and that they
contain them in the very fabric of their mind, no one could ever be saved
from anything at all.
This is what was signified by My behavior and actions during the
described encounter. Because of that, I clearly could not condemn or
judge the woman in question. You cannot do that if you know, in an
absolute sense, the reasons for the negative state’s pseudo-being and
pseudo-existence and for all human problems, as well as for their
outcome. The only thing you can do in a situation like that is to let her go
and advise her not to behave any longer in the same manner. In other
words, instead of judging and condemning anyone in the negative state
and human life, you show them the way out of it and tell them what not
to do, giving them a choice in the matter. My behavior, in this case, was
significant in the sense that for the first time it established a condition of
freedom of choice for everyone in human life to be the way they wanted
to be. As you know, up to that point, everything was by necessity and no
freedom of choice. In this particular case, their law of necessity and no
freedom of choice demanded from them to execute that woman by stoning
her to death. However, I abolished that necessity by pointing out to them
that anyone in the negative state and human life is imbued with
problems and sins because it is their nature to be so. Up to that point
they had no other alternative. My incarnation on planet Zero into the
typical human life brought them the other alternative. This other
alternative was illustrated and demonstrated by My behavior during the
described encounter and how I handled that situation and what I said to
that woman. So, by saying to that woman, ‘neither I condemn you; go and
sin no more,’ I gave her a clear alternative in the matter and set her free
from a life of necessity and no freedom of choice. Because the woman in
question corresponded to the entire humanity, or to be more precise, to
humanity’s very soul, I established in her a new lifestyle for humanity
rooted in freedom of choice and no necessity. And this is what that case
was all about.
As you see from this case, My writing on the ground and what I wrote on
it had an enormous significance for the entire being and existence as well
as for the entire pseudo-being and pseudo-existence. And not only that
but, most importantly, its significance is being triggered right now
during this shift in order to establish a condition in your life by which
you can proceed toward your ultimate goal and toward fulfillment of your
mission for which you are on planet Zero. It gives you a blueprint of how
to think, how to behave, how to feel, how to relate, how to will and how to
consider all events in human life and in the negative state. This is the
reason why I inspired Mr. Beneš to ask that question.
Peter: For the first time in human history, since the time the quoted
encounter was recorded by Apostle John, we have the answer to the
mystery of Your behavior with that woman and about Your writing on
the ground. Thank You very much for this inspiring revelation.
The Lord Jesus Christ: It is a pleasure, Peter. As you see, we are
dealing here again with the factor of timeliness. Up to this point, it was
not appropriate to either ask that question or to get any answers in that
respect. Only during the currently ongoing shift, the need for asking it
and getting proper answers to it became crucial and timely. And now,
Peter, you may ask Tom’s question.
Peter: Tom tells me that for some time now he has been preoccupied
with the meaning of the Pyramids situated in Egypt and Mexico and
perhaps, in some other places in South America. The question is, who
were their builders, how did they come about and what do they signify, if
anything at all?
The Lord Jesus Christ: In order to answer Tom’s question properly, we
need to go back into the history of the activation of the negative state.
Some aspects of that history were described in Fundamentals of
Human Spirituality. As you know from My New Revelation, many
epochs had passed before the full activation of the negative state and
fabrication of humans took place. In the process of this activation,
several steps needed to be taken. This activation, for obvious reasons,
could not happen overnight, so-to-speak. It was a gradual process. In the
first round, a direct connection to the spiritual reality of life and to the
spiritual world existed. As gradually the idea of the activation of the
negative state caught up in the sentient mind, a second round needed to
be instituted. This round is characterized by the replacement of a direct
contact with and awareness of the spiritual reality and spiritual world
with an indirect one. It was at this time that the science of
correspondences was developed and established. It replaced that direct
contact and awareness. In order to preserve that contact and awareness
in some mode and shape based on the newly developed laws of
correspondences, external objects, structures and images were invented
and built which would serve as a reminder of the spiritual reality and of
the spiritual world, as well as of the origin and source of any life.
These objects, structures and images were carefully designed in such a
way that they fully reflected the nature, structure and dynamics of the
spiritual life. As you see, in their original design they served solely and
only as a reminder of the other reality, other than the external physical
reality. People would look at them and they would bring to their memory
the reality of the spiritual life and proper spiritual principles by which
life, any life, is sustained. In other words, those objects, in themselves
and by themselves, didn’t mean anything but only what they represented
and to what they corresponded, or of what they reminded people of that
time. In our present understanding, we would say that they looked at
them and saw things as they were behind the scene and not at the scene.
However, as the negative state was more and more in the process of its
activation, gradually the knowledge and understanding of
correspondences was lost and forgotten. At that point in time, people lost
their ability to perceive and understand things behind the scene and they
began to see only those things that were at the scene, considering them
the only possible reality. In this way, they lost their connection with
anything truly spiritual and real.
But to go back to those structures and objects. During the time of
development and establishment of the science of correspondences, very
intricate structures were built, such as the mentioned Pyramids and all
other similar objects. As you know, recently, by examining more
thoroughly some areas of the Pyramids, your scientists determined that
their foundation is much older than it was previously assumed. I can tell
you for sure that they date to those times when the future pseudo-
creators were in the process of development and establishment of the
science of correspondences which I revealed to them for the purpose of
their utilization for future needs. Later on, of course, other generations
were adding to them without having a proper understanding and
meaning of their representation and depiction. So, Pyramids and similar
structures were built in different parts of your planet originally as a
reminder of eternal life, of the mystery of the origin of life and as a
memento that life is not what most people think it is. Because of the
original purpose for which they were built, every aspect of them,
everything that they consist of and everything contained in them has a
deeper spiritual meaning, correspondence and representation. They
describe the nature of other dimensions, other worlds, other life forms
and other realities. Through these descriptions and depictions, contact
with and awareness of other worlds and other spiritual realities were
maintained throughout many generations. And this was the major
purpose for which all those mysterious structures were built.
Of course, this meaning and their purpose was lost to the majority of
humans. It was permitted to be lost in order to give a chance and an
opportunity for the nature of the typical human life to fully unfold and
establish itself for the purpose of learning what types of life not to choose
on a permanent basis.
So, in answering directly Tom’s question, the original builders of the
Pyramids were the scientists who were integral components of the
pseudo-creators’ clan. Later on, some humans were utilized in the
process of their construction with the help of technology which was
developed by those scientists and which was lost for many millennia. And
this is all that you need to know and understand about this issue at this
time. Nothing more would make any sense to your human mind. You will
know more about it later on, perhaps only after you leave planet Zero. At
that time you will be able to grasp much more, not only about the
discussed issue but about all other things.
Peter: We are profoundly thankful for anything that You feel is
appropriate and timely for us to know. Is there anything else today that
You wish to bring to our attention?
The Lord Jesus Christ: Not today, Peter. This is enough for now. Have
a very pleasant day.
Source: DIALOGUES WITH THE LORD JESUS CHRIST PART 1.
