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March 29, 1999
Peter: First of all, I would like to thank You for giving me a few days
break from dialoging. At the same time, as usual, I felt unproductive
during this time. Of course, I understand perfectly that important
reasons exist why such breaks are necessary and needed on many levels
of my assignment. During this time, some questions arose that need to be
presented for Your input. However, the most important event which
happened during this time was the beginning of an assault by NATO on
Yugoslavia for its unwillingness to accept a peace agreement with
fighting Kosovo. Many questions relating to this event were asked. We
are all very much concerned and anxious about the possible danger that
could escalate into something much more than just bombing the region in
question. Every reader of these Dialogs is asking for Your input in this
matter and for Your advice on our role and position during this crucial
and, possibly, very dangerous time.
The Lord Jesus Christ: As you know, Peter, and all who are asking
this question, the situation in Yugoslavia and Kosovo, and NATO’s
involvement in this conflict, is a reflection of the spiritual affairs that are
taking place on other levels of being and existence and pseudo-being and
pseudo-existence. In essence, you are experiencing the manifestation of
the previously mentioned civil war which is raging between the pseudo-
creators and the renegades. Certain inappropriate choices were made by
several factions of the renegades. As a consequence of those choices they
brought upon themselves the need for this assault. It is not that I
personally willed that this would happen, or that the pseudo-creators
wanted it to end up like that. Many efforts were made to keep, as much
as possible, this from happening. However, the renegades are not yet at
the point that would result in their learning their lessons. They are still
blinded by the lust and craving for power, domination and self-
exclusiveness. Such tendencies inevitably bring upon themselves the
need for their restraining and punishment.
In this particular case, NATO represents the pseudo-creators, Yugoslavia
represents one faction of the renegades and Kosovo represents another
faction of the renegades. These two factions are in conflict over control,
power and domination. Because of the inappropriate choices that the
first faction made, it put into danger several dimensions of their realm.
This danger could have an adverse effect on many other levels of being
and existence and pseudo-being and pseudo-existence with an
undesirable outcome for all concerned. Because of that, when everything
else failed to convince that faction to agree to the suggested peace
agreement, it was necessary to permit somewhat drastic measures to be
taken in this respect in order to restrain the faction in question.
It would be utterly impossible for you to understand everything that is
involved in this situation and how things are being set up for an
important choice-making and decision-making process. You have no idea
what, who and how everyone is involved in this process. All you know
and see is that NATO is bombing Yugoslavia and its military forces in
Kosovo. In other words, it is impossible for you to see behind the scene.
You see things only as they happen on the scene. And yet, in actuality,
things are not what they appear to be on the scene. At this point in time,
it would be spiritually very dangerous for you to know exactly everything
that is at stake during this conflict. Your question whether this conflict
could escalate to the point of a Third World War and the total destruction
of humanity has merit. What you have to understand in this respect, is
that such a choice and outcome exists. It does not mean that, ultimately,
this choice would be chosen and realized. It may or may not happen that
way. It all depends on all other important factors and how they would
serve toward the ultimate winning and subsequent elimination of the
negative state.
One of the possible scenarios of how the negative state would win and
ultimately destroy itself is by total annihilation of humanity and
everything on planet Zero. As mentioned in one of the previous Dialogs,
an all-out effort is being made that such a scenario would not come to
this realization. However, although it is improbable, nevertheless, it does
exist and it may be chosen if no other means would be available to put an
end to the negative state.
Your role in this respect is to continue in your work as My true
representatives without being concerned and anxious about the outcome
of this conflict. You are to maintain neutrality as far as ethnic Albanians
and Serbs are concerned. Don’t judge one side or the other. Objectively
speaking, both sides have committed and are committing atrocities and
abominations against each other. They both can be accused of genocide.
It is not your place to take sides about their conflict. More things are
involved in it than you can imagine, surmise or understand.
On the other hand, as you remember from the previous Dialogs, you were
asked to shift all your energies in support of the pseudo-creators and to
take an active part in the Great Alliance. Because in this case NATO
represents the pseudo-creators, you are advised, if you choose so by your
own freedom of choice, to give it your moral support. It is not that you
have to like what is being done or how things are being done by the
forces of NATO. After all, violence is always negative no matter what;
but because the present conflict serves some very important spiritual
purpose, the outcome of which will determine what other choices will
need to be taken in order to bring the negative state closer to its ending
and elimination, you are advised not to harshly criticize NATO’s actions
in this respect. So, in this particular sense, regardless of how disgusting
the bombing is in your view, it does serve, ultimately, a good purpose.
Don’t forget for a minute that everything negative, no matter how bad
and putrid it is, can and may be turned into something very positive. The
precedence for this fact was set by Me personally when I transformed
within Myself everything negative contained in My human part, which I
assumed during My incarnation on planet Zero, into a purely positive
nature.
From the beginning of this conflict, there was a tendency with some of
you to perceive it from the wrong standpoint. For example, you, Peter,
under the influence of your Russian friends, started to doubt your
intuition about this situation and were inclined to side to some degree —
although reluctantly — with the Russian position in this respect. How
conveniently you and Lyudmila forgot about the Great Alliance and that
you agreed to be a part of it, giving support to the pseudo-creators, in
this case to NATO, as their representative. Too much futile and
inappropriate politicking was taking place, judging things as they were
happening at the scene, without looking at the deeper spiritual meaning
of all these events, and how things were behind the scene.
This is an example of what happens when you forget to consider the
spiritual factors of all events and evaluate them from the typical human
external factors. You even went so far that from the typical human
standpoint you called Albanians, and some other nations in the Russian
Federation, bandits, thieves, terrorists and by similar inappropriate
names. This was a sweeping and spiritually dangerous generalization.
Sure, there are some groups like that among them, as well as among all
nations on planet Zero. But to make a generalized statement about them
being all like that is to pronounce a very unjust judgment and to make
conclusions which are totally false. Who do you support by such an
attitude and statements? The renegades! Being that you are My true
representatives on planet Zero, such negative words, thoughts, feelings
and emotions about anyone should never enter your mind. And if they do,
you should immediately reject them as not coming from you but from the
negative aspects of your human nature, that is to say, from the negative
state. Following that, purify yourself from them and ask Me for mercy
and forgiveness. That way, such words, thoughts, feelings or whatever of
this nature, will not be appropriated or attributed to you.
One of the reasons, Peter, although not the only one, that you felt in the
last few days like not being in your skin and having some kind of block
that prevented you from dialoging with Me, was this judgmental
atmosphere in your home and a tendency to yield to the opinions of
others in order to please and appease them. Instead of listening to your
intuition that was screaming at you not to succumb to their views, you
listened to what others had to say about this situation. Finally, you
realized your mistake and yesterday, under My personal input, you made
a very strong statement about the whole situation. It was not until you
had a conversation with Kamil of the Czech Republic that you realized
what was going on and how dangerous it was for all of you to be
sidetracked from the proper spiritual consideration and realization about
all of this, as well as about everything else.
The lesson for all of you is very clear in this respect: Unless you
constantly keep in your mind Me and My spiritual principles; and unless
you bear in your mind that you are My true representatives; and unless
you listen to what your intuition is telling you, you are in danger of
becoming a target of the renegades. It is in this kind of situation when
the renegades and their minions may recognize who you are personally.
The outcome of this recognition could be a very unpleasant one for you.
So, be very careful how you evaluate or judge events and all involved in
them. In fact, as My true representatives, it is not your place or role to do
that anyway. You give everything to Me and to My Divine Providence. I
will take care of all things in the best possible and the most needed
manner in accordance with the Grand Plan of My Salvation.
Peter: I am asking for Your mercy and forgiveness if I, personally, erred
in this matter. I cannot talk about others. Let them address You
personally without my prodding.
The Lord Jesus Christ: And you are forgiven, Peter. It wasn’t that
much you, personally, because inwardly you felt the right way. It was
your tendency to please others, not wanting to offend them by your
different opinion. So, let us put this issue behind us. Don’t worry and
don’t be anxious about the outcome of this conflict and war. I can assure
you that it will end in a manner and way which is most appropriate,
feasible and needed from the proper spiritual standpoint. And this point
is what counts the most. And now, Peter, you may ask the other
questions.
Peter: This question came from one of the readers of these Dialogs in
Slovakia. It relates to the topic of the Seventh Dialog. It seems to me that
we were accused of being somewhat selfish. On page 67 of that Dialog, in
its last paragraph which continues on page 68, we are being advised to
ask Your help in managing our everyday lives for our own sake. I
believe the stumbling block is in the words ‘for our own sake’ instead
of for Your sake, for others’ sake and for the sake of principle itself
because it is the right thing to do.
The Lord Jesus Christ: That statement in the quoted paragraph was
taken out of the context in which it was presented. The paragraph
started with an advice to ask Me to help you to be a certain way for your
own sake. However, it ended with the suggestion to do all that from Me,
by Me, of Me, through Me and for Me; as well as for everyone’s sake
and for the sake of principles, because it is the right thing to request
and to be that way.
The important spiritual point here to realize is that if you want to do
things the way it is supposed to be or if you want to be the way you are
supposed to be, that is to say, in this particular case, if you want to do
things for My sake, for the sake of others and for the sake of principles
themselves, you have to begin doing that from only one possible platform.
As you remember from My New Revelation, it was indicated there that
you cannot relate to or do things from the position of anyone or anything
else. You have only one position or platform — you! You can relate only
from yourself. No other position is available to you. Because of that, if
you really want to do your best for all concerned, you have to take care of
yourself first. If you are not in good shape or condition, whether
spiritually or mentally or physically, you cannot properly perform your
duties, obligations, assignment or whatever you have. Thus, what that
statement signifies is that you need to take care of your life for your own
sake first, so that, subsequently, you may fulfill properly, effectively and
competently your duties, obligations and assignments as related to Me,
to others and to all spiritual principles.
But there is another important point to this issue. If you are asking Me
to help you in accomplishing this goal for your own sake, so that you are
in a proper and desirable position to do it because of Me, others and the
principles themselves, you are, in fact, asking it for Me, others and the
principles themselves. If you take into consideration the spiritual fact
that you, in your individualized and personalized condition, in your non-
human portion, are derived from a unique element taken out from My
Absolute Nature, then whatever you are doing for your own sake, if you
keep in your mind who you are and from where your true nature derives,
you are doing it for Me. And because I do everything for everyone’s sake
and for the sake of principles themselves, the logical conclusion is that
you likewise are doing it for others and for the sake of principles
themselves.
You have to distinguish between your human nature and the nature that
stems directly from Me in you. If we were to be talking from the position
of your human nature, then such a statement could be considered being
selfish. However, in that particular connotation, because you are being
advised to be the way your true nature, which derives from Me, is, by the
factor that it is I who is advising, that advice is given from the position of
your being an integral part of the whole or of all and, most importantly,
of Me. Philosophically and spiritually speaking, if you are part of all and
all are part of you, and together you are all part of Me, in this particular
connotation, logically speaking, whatever you are doing for your own
sake, you are doing it for Me, for all and for the sake of principles
themselves because it is the right thing to do it that way. So, in an
ultimate sense, from the position of the nature of My positive state,
everything one does for oneself is always done for My sake, for the sake
of others and for the sake of principles themselves. There is no other
way. And this is what the mentioned paragraph in the Seventh Dialog
signifies.
Peter: Thank You for this explanation. The next question was asked by
Joseph Grygar of the Czech Republic. It relates to the use and misuse of
computers and their programs and how they might influence one’s
mental characteristics.
The Lord Jesus Christ: Well, the answer to that question should be
obvious by now. Computers and their programs are tools. As such, any
tool is neutral in itself and by itself. It is the purpose for which they and
their programs were made and how they are being utilized. As anything
else in human life, they can have either positive or negative
connotations, respectively. They can be either very helpful or very
harmful. Again, it depends on your own individual and personal purpose
for which you approach such tools. Take for example, our work, dialoging
together. By directly typing them in your computer program, you are
saving time, effort and energy that otherwise would have to be spent on
numerous rewritings, editing and correcting. In our particular case, this
computer program, used with such a purpose in mind, serves a very good
cause. Thus, in this particular case, it has a purely positive connotation.
However, take for example, someone who uses computers with an evil
and negative intent. Computer hackers, designers of viruses and similar
individuals are using computers as a means to hurt or to harm other
people in their efforts to simplify their work and to make things more
manageable. Or take for example, individuals who spend hours and
hours on the Internet, wasting all their time and energy on useless
communication with others without any particular purpose in mind. In
other words, they become addicted to the Internet. In cases like that,
they become slaves of their computers; or to be more precise, they
enslave themselves to their computers. For them, the use of computers
and their programs became negative. Thus, in these particular cases,
they have a purely negative connotation.
This is a good example of the fact that it is the sentient mind and its
attitude which ultimately determines what is good and what is bad by
the purpose for which it uses any tools. You have to train yourself to see
things from this position and to not ascribe anything to any tools that
they don’t have. By ascribing such characteristics to inanimate objects,
such as tools of this nature, you are avoiding your own responsibility in
determining with what purpose such tools are being used by you
personally. Instead of recognizing that it is your own attitude that makes
you do whatever you do, you would have a tendency to blame tools, in
this case, computers and their programs, for being responsible for your
actions or behavior. So, you are advised to not put anything of this
nature in your tools that you use in your everyday life. Your spiritual
and mental dispositions and the needs that you have, are the ones that
determine the usefulness or harmfulness of any such tools.
Peter: Thank You very much for this comment. My last question comes
from Victor Dokukin of Moscow, Russia. He would like to know if there is
any spiritual significance to the color ‘green’ used by Muslims in their
various designations.
The Lord Jesus Christ: As you know, Peter, the function of colors, as
well as of everything else, has an important spiritual correspondence. In
this particular case, as related to Muslims, it has two distinct
connotations. The first one relates to the original newness of the just-
established religious movement that had not been in existence up to that
point. Anything green, in this particular connotation, denotes the
beginning of something new, fresh and different. It is pleasant to your
eyes, thus, to your soul and it is creatively invigorating. However, here
comes the second connotation. Anything green also means something
unfinished, incomplete and unripe. In this particular connotation, it
means that Muslims have never conceptualized the One God as being
The Lord Jesus Christ. They rejected Me as the One who is that God or
Allah. Instead, they proclaimed their prophet Mohammed to be the
greatest of all who is the very next to their Allah. In their view, no one is
greater than Allah and his prophet Mohammed. As you see from this
designation, they have remained green all the way through their history,
never ever allowing themselves to accept the very important spiritual
fact that there is more to the conceptualization of God or Allah than what
their green religion admits or professes. Because of that, and because of
the spiritual arrogance, rooted in putting Mohammed almost on the level
of God and considering themselves the only chosen ones, their green
turned into a greenish infestation which heralds a very serious terminal
spiritual illness. Thus, their religion became one of the most negative
and vicious representations of the Hells. This is the reason why they
retained the green color.
Peter: Thank You very much for Your input in all discussed issues. Is
there anything else that You would like to address today?
The Lord Jesus Christ: You are welcome, Peter. No, not today. I think
you all have been given enough food for thought. Have a marvelous day.
Source: DIALOGUES WITH THE LORD JESUS CHRIST PART 1.