FIFTH DIALOGUE

December 28, 1998

Peter: Several questions are going through my mind this morning. First of all, as You know, Marko Mihálik and Michal Miko arrived from Slovakia and brought me a copy of the beautiful hard cover bound translation of The New Revelation of The Lord Jesus Christ. I wish we could issue such a beautiful edition in the English version.

The Lord Jesus Christ: Yes, Peter, and I extend My Personal gratitude, thankfulness and appreciation to them, and to all who were involved in making this publishing possible, and for their outstanding and excellent work. Believe Me, Peter, it is not by coincidence that a copy of My book in the Slovak version was delivered to you at this crucial time. It signifies another important milestone in the process of the current shift’s manifestation.

Peter: Before asking my questions, I would like to request that You comment a little further on the dream issues. Dan and I are interested to know if there are any specific issues about dreaming and dreams as related to the agents of the positive state, and particularly to those who are integrally connected to Your New Revelation.

The Lord Jesus Christ: By and large, what was revealed in this respect in the Fourth Dialog is fully applicable to all of you. However, there are some subtleties and details. For example, some of you are involved in very important work in various regions of the Hells. The nature of that work cannot be revealed at this time for security reasons. Because that involvement is, in essence, on a continuous basis, your dreaming will be significantly influenced by that factor. In that case, your dreams, in a majority of the cases, will be of an unpleasant nature. After all, what is pleasant about working in the midst of the negative state? However, this does not mean that you don’t also have pleasant dreams occasionally. You simply don’t remember them for the reason that their memory could and would not only discourage you from your work but also they could and would prevent you from that work. Then, you would want to have those types of dreams continuously. In that case, because during these types of dreams, you are in communication with Me or with the members of your true spiritual family and your home base, you could not perform your duties and assignment in the Hells or whatever region of the Zone of Displacement to which you are assigned. The door cannot be opened simultaneously to both the positive state and the negative state, respectively.

In Dan’s case, the situation is somewhat more complicated due to his medical condition for which he is taking psychotropic medications. As you know from your professional practice, Peter, that type of medication has a tendency to alter the workings of brain cells and the transmission of chemical substances. Because of that alteration, he is more susceptible to opening the door to the negative state in the case of his dreaming. This is the way some of that medication works. His condition was chosen for the very purpose of having easier access to those regions of the Hells where he performs work for Me. Because of that, he doesn’t need to go each time through the complicated process of entering those worlds. So, let no one be harsh in judging his taking medication. It serves an important purpose.

Peter: Thank You very much for this explanation. My question today relates more to a political issue and to the situation with the pseudo- creators, their minions and renegades. What is Your comment about the current political and economic situation on this planet? Is it appropriate for me to ask questions like that?

The Lord Jesus Christ: Of course, Peter. You should know by now that there is nothing in being and existence that does not have a spiritual connotation. Whatever you are experiencing on your planet in the form of political, economic or any other type of turmoil, always stems from the spiritual area and has spiritual roots and correspondences. But, before going into some elaboration on this issue, let Me divert for a moment to something else. I am perceiving continuous doubts in your mind whether it is appropriate to record these Dialogs and disseminate them in the written form. Am I correct?

Peter: Yes, you are correct. I am really concerned about it due to such authoritarian statements regarding that in the Updates of the Corollaries... .

The Lord Jesus Christ: To ease your mind, let Me make some comparisons between what was said about it in the book of My New Revelation, at the very end of Chapter 30, with that which was indicated to you in the Corollaries... . As you remember from that Chapter, it was very clearly emphasized there that, and I quote, “The New Revelation will remain open-ended. This means that, if and when necessary, additional Chapters, beyond Chapter Thirty, will be added to it to reflect further developments in the spiritual reality of Creation and in the process of The Lord Jesus Christ’s salvation and unfolding of His/Her Grand Plan.” And in the next paragraph: “Many ideas of the New Revelation, as revealed in this book, will be valid to the very end of this cycle of time. Some will be modified or replaced as needed, when needed and if needed.” (Page 831).

A proclamation of this nature is very clear: Nothing in My Creation or elsewhere is ever stagnant, regressive or fixed. Everything is in continuous movement onward and forward in a progressive mode. Since all sentient entities and creatures are of a relative nature, I continuously release to them, in a progressive mode from My Absolute Creative effort, always something new, on which, they can enhance and enrich their life. Because of this factor, as noted in My New Revelation, there will always be another New Revelation, another addition, modification, and changes and updates to it, in order to reflect the incoming new step in everyone’s spiritual progression. As long as you are in the human skin, living on planet Zero, the need for the written material will always be there. There is nothing else available in this respect. It is the mode of how it is presented to you which changes, and not its form. No other way exists on your planet at this time for conveying these most important issues than this one. So, the statement quoted above will always be true.

On the other hand, what was indicated to you in the Corollaries..., does not have this particular connotation. To repeat again: The advice given to you, and to all readers at that time, reflected the need which existed then for that particular situation — for the here and now. Therefore, it was true only for that particular time and for that particular condition which existed in the mode of the shifts that were occurring at each of their junctions. So, don’t doubt about this because it only pleases the forces of the negative state. They could use your doubts as a gate to influence you adversely. And we don’t want that to happen.

Peter: Thank You for this reminder. I’ll do my best in this respect.

The Lord Jesus Christ: But let us go back to your question. At this point, it would be a good idea to reiterate some information about the pseudo-creators’ return and what happened afterwards. As you know, Peter, this information was given to you verbally but it was never recorded in the written form. It is timely and appropriate to do so now.

When the pseudo-creators returned and looked at the situation on planet Zero and how humanity has been developing on it, they became disgusted with it. So, their first impulse was to destroy everything and everyone on its face and start all over again with their genetic experimentation. Obviously, things did not turn out the way they expected with humanity. And what was it that they expected? Their expectation in this respect entailed total proof that life can exist in the same mode and manner as in the positive state without the involvement of any spiritual principles or God, or with false spiritual principles and false gods. Of course, it didn’t turn out that way. So, they decided to do away with it. However, as they observed the life of various humans and their respective societies and countries, as you know, Peter, they noticed that some agents of the positive state didn’t turn out to be the same way as all others. Due to this observation, they postponed their decision to destroy planet Zero. They needed to study these agents of the positive state in order to determine what it is in them that makes them so different from the rest.

However, you have to be aware that not all pseudo-creators agreed with this plan. Due to that, a three-way split occurred among them. One group — based on their observation and recognition of the fact that life without true spirituality and The Lord Jesus Christ is incapable of turning out any other way but what human life became — arrived at the right conclusion to convert to the positive state or to support that conversion. The other group was inclined to let everything remain as is on this planet and to continue observing it in order to see how it will turn out in the end. The third group, the most aggressive, negative and radical one, wanted to proceed with destruction because they assumed, that based on the observation and examination of the agents of the positive state, and based on these agents’ genetic makeup, they now had enough material to start all over again with a new breed of creatures with whom they could prove that life may and can exist in the same way and manner as in the positive state without The Lord Jesus Christ and His/Her spiritual principles or, most importantly, with false gods — them, and their own pseudo-spiritual principles.

Eventually, the first and the second group formed a certain type of alliance and proposed the following scenario to the third group: Wait, and don’t proceed with destruction. First, based on the new material made available by these strange agents of the positive state, fabricate your new creatures and place them into the life of planet Zero and see how they turn out. If they turn out the way you expect, we’ll join you and do whatever is needed in this respect. In that case, the answer to our original question will be provided and the so-called Null Hypothesis will not be rejected as expected. On the other hand, if you fail in your endeavor, then all of us, including you, will reject this Hypothesis, as expected, and we’ll all convert to the positive state.

So, an agreement was forged. Of course, the first group had become very much aware by then of the fact that no matter how much and how often you try to fabricate someone on other than spiritual principles, stemming directly from The Lord Jesus Christ, such creatures cannot turn out to be any other way but what human life is all about. In this case however, the situation would be much worse than with any human or creature of Hell because it would include something in their new genetic makeup that had never existed before up to that point. Because the agreement they made in this respect is binding even for the pseudo-creators, after the experiment is completed in this respect, all pseudo-creators will convert to the positive state. And that would be the end of the negative state.

Unfortunately for them, their situation is complicated by the factor of the renegades. As you remember from My information that I gave you some time ago, upon the pseudo-creators’ release into the Hells, the very first act they undertook was to take over the government and rule of all the Hells and the entire Zone of Displacement. Because the principles by which the Hells and the negative state in general are ruled is by power, intimidation and force, and because no one there ever wants to give up their powers and powerful positions, the former rulers of the Hells rebelled against the pseudo-creators and split from them, forming their own factions, the purpose of which is to take back their formerly held powers. This split created a tremendous problem for all of them. Many various factions of the minions were formed who became followers either of the relevant groups of the pseudo-creators or various groups of the renegades. They all fight each other for dominance and control.

The renegades try to imitate the pseudo-creators in that they are trying to fabricate their own creatures and populate planet Zero with them to prove that they are capable of doing the same things as the pseudo- creators, and even better. For your information, Peter, they function at 80% of the knowledge, abilities and power of the pseudo-creators.

In the process of the wars that they are waging amongst themselves, at one point in time, the pseudo-creators made the decision to yield certain regions of planet Zero to the renegades. The purpose of this step was to teach the renegades some lessons and to have them admit that they are not capable of accomplishing anything that would count significantly or that would make a success of their effort to bring about the ultimate victory of the negative state. Just the opposite: The more they try, the less they succeed. The very first sign of the renegades’ takeover was the Asian economic collapse, followed by the devastating Russian economic collapse and the South American economic turmoil. In the United States, it was manifested by the impeachment of President William Clinton, based on his so-called sexual escapades, by attempting to remove him from office, and by the bombing of a defiant Iraq.

The renegades established their center in Moscow, Russia with followers in Asia, in the Arabic Nations, especially Iraq; in Afghanistan, China, North Korea, Cuba and, to some extent, in France and South America, as well as in Serbia. In the United States, the renegades are represented by the sanctimonious conservative Republicans, some conservative Democrats, and a host of religious groups that impose the most restrictive and rigid rules on their followers for living their lives, controlling them by the fear of eternal hellish and literal fire.

So, as you see, the only way the renegades are capable of ruling a region occupied and influenced by them, is by the principle of chaos. That is the reason why, in the moment they took over those regions, everything in them literally fell apart, almost overnight.

From what was said above, you can clearly see that in general, everything in the negative state is falling apart. This is a sign of its decay and dying out.

Peter: But what about the complete winning of the negative state on this planet before its total elimination — as it was pointed out several times in Your New Revelation and its Updates?

The Lord Jesus Christ: As you know, Peter, a wounded beast, before succumbing to its wounds, is able to exert a tremendous last effort of strength, power and rage that enable it to cause much damage and kill many of its attackers. This is the condition into which the negative state is presently entering. Because of that, this phase of its life can be considered the most dangerous, most devastating and most effective in pseudo-winning on your planet and throughout the Zone of Displacement. This situation is connected with the shift that you are in the process of experiencing. The condensing effort of the entire negative state is about to be finished. At the point when it is completed, several things can and may happen. These things relate to the issue, emphasized many times before, of many different scenarios of how it will all happen. It will depend on the choices that all will make during this most crucial and most significant time in the history of the activation and dominance of the negative state and planet Zero.

Peter: So, what is the situation with them right now?

The Lord Jesus Christ: Well, as you know, Peter, for some time now, the pseudo-creators have been experimenting with two issues: One, fabricating a new creature comparable to the agents of the positive state but with greater power, abilities and productivity; and two, fabricating a human body which would not be so immensely restricted in the scope of its function, mental and intellectual faculties, physical stamina and power of mind control, as the typical human body is. They want to preserve in themselves all the power, abilities, scientific superiority and mind control that they have without this body. In the first case, they have almost succeeded. Their effort in this respect is being hampered by a so-called civil war, if we may call it that, which is raging among them and particularly with the renegades. In the second case, they have not been able to succeed yet.

However, let it be known to you, Peter, and to all who will read these words, that some of the pseudo-creators decided to appear as typical humans with the same limitations and restrictions that humans have. This appearance stems from their scientific curiosity to know and experience how it is to be a typical human. However, even with these physical and mental limitations, so typical for humans proper, they still far surpass anything that a human proper can and may achieve. These types of pseudo-creators, gradually and covertly, are taking over the crucial and important positions of power and dominance in the political, economic, scientific and other important and crucial worlds, preparing the way for the defeat of the renegades and for the return of the rest of the pseudo-creators. As you know, the vast majority of the pseudo- creators is still waiting for that special type of human body to be fabricated; a body that would look, feel and manifest itself as a typical human body, but would retain all and everything that the pseudo- creators possess now.

Peter: May I ask You to further comment on the situation with this country and the spiritual implications with what is going on here?

The Lord Jesus Christ: Well, as mentioned before, the struggle for power and dominance that is going on between the pseudo-creators and the renegades is manifested in two major areas: The first one relates to the conflict with Iraq. Iraq is the most negative, evil and ruthless representation of the renegades and their respective Hells. For that reason, if it continues to be unchecked, it will produce weapons of mass destruction and would use them very effectively against this country and Israel without the slightest hesitation, as well as against some others who are under the control of the pseudo-creators. You have to understand, Peter, that winning over the control of this country, represents for the renegades the total defeat of the pseudo-creators. After all, this country is the one that has all the power, dominance and control over the vast majority of this planet. This is also the reason why the pseudo-creators chose this country as their major stronghold.

The second area relates to the impeachment process of President Clinton. The renegades succeeded in invading the minds of conservative Republicans and through them are trying to get rid of Clinton, hoping that with his removal, this country will fall apart and as a result, will considerably weaken the influence and position of the pseudo-creators, thus, giving them a chance to take over here also.

Because of this situation, this country faces a very crucial and important decision and choice in this respect. Correspondentially and symbolically speaking, if the Republicans succeed in removing Clinton from office, it means that the choice was made for the renegades. The consequences of that choice could be very unpleasant. Fortunately, the majority of common people have no desire for this to happen. They are willing to forgive and show mercy on Clinton for his sexual escapades and let him serve out his term. This is a good sign, for there is nothing more important for this country, as well as for any other, and for any sentient entity, than the willingness to forgive and show mercy.

Peter: Talking about mercy and forgiveness, may I ask You to elaborate on these two most important concepts?

The Lord Jesus Christ: Very gladly, Peter. Look carefully at what happened here. Clinton allegedly became sexually involved with a young intern and, maybe, with some others. What kind of sinful involvement is that? The sinfulness of that act would come into the foreground if it had been forcefully, or otherwise, imposed and demanded, giving the other party no choice in the matter. This was not the case with Clinton because it was fully consensual. As a matter of fact, one of the purposes of that young intern was to become an intern in the White House, to have that kind of experience and involvement with the very President of the United States of America. That was her goal and ambition. Of course, it is questionable whether President Clinton had real sexual intercourse with her because only oral sex was involved. From the spiritual standpoint, this cannot be considered true sexual intercourse, because, in order to trigger the true spiritual significance and vital spiritual correspondence of this act, and what it entails, the physical penetration of a penis into a female vagina is required. The accusation against President Clinton is in the fact that he lied under oath about his involvement with the young intern and, thus, he perjured himself, obstructed justice and abused his power. If you take the spiritual aspect of this case into consideration, then President Clinton couldn’t have lied, by the factor of how sexual intercourse is defined in the spiritual sense — which is what counts in our case; and therefore, there was no obstruction of justice or perjury or abuse of power.

It is natural for humans to lie about their sexual involvement whenever it comes into public light. The reason for this stems from the fact that any consensual sexual involvement is a matter of the utmost privacy and intimacy. It is between two involved, consenting individuals and Me. It reflects the most sacred concept of the interaction of two beings for the purpose of knowing each other, themselves and ultimately Me; and this is so, regardless of whether they are consciously aware of this crucial fact or not. On the spiritual level, where it counts, they are, and that knowledge will be subsequently utilized for their own enhancement and enrichment. Now, because of the nature of the intimacy and privacy of the sexual involvement, it should never be made public. It is no one’s business. At the moment it becomes public knowledge, the first natural impulse is to deny that such things happened. Should anyone be judged because of that?

But look at sexuality from the standpoint of this consideration, Peter: Which words are used, for example, in the Holy Bible to describe sexual intercourse? Do you remember, Peter?

Peter: Absolutely. I do remember very well.

The Lord Jesus Christ: The words that are used, as you know so well, are, quote, “he knew her and she conceived.” It is not by coincidence that in describing sexual intercourse the words “to know her and subsequently of that knowledge she conceives” are being used. What is the best way to know someone than through sexual intercourse? You have to understand this statement in the following manner: In the process of sexual intercourse, he acquires knowledge of her feminine principle from the position of his masculine principle; and from the position of his feminine principle, he acquires knowledge of her masculine principle. On the other hand, she acquires knowledge of his masculine principle from the position of her feminine principle, and from the position of her masculine principle, she acquires knowledge of his feminine principle. In such an exchange, a new idea is born that is utilized for some very important productive and reproductive purpose. Of course, depending on who the two individuals are in this respect, the result of that exchange can be either positive or negative. However, in either case something new was born.

So, in Clinton’s case, his involvement should have never been made public and he should have never been judged for what he did or didn’t do in this respect.

However, the renegades capitalized on this situation and incited a public prosecutor and conservative republicans to make an issue out of it so that they could bring down the dominance of the pseudo-creators in this country. President Clinton and the young intern, and everyone else involved in this situation, entered into it by prior agreement, ultimately with Me, in order to make this involvement public for a very important reason — to give humans in this country the opportunity to make a very decisive choice in which way they want to go. The choice in this respect is to go either with the pseudo-creators, which would lead to the salvation and conversion of the pseudo-creators to the positive state; or to go with the renegades, in which case it would result in their prolonged misery and suffering before the negative state could be eliminated.

But going back to the issue of mercy and forgiveness. Unless this country, in the form of its conservative Republicans, and other people supporting them, is willing to show mercy and forgiveness in this particular case, they would have to bear the full consequences of their attitude. In this respect, it would be a good idea to quote a very prolific verse, recorded in The Epistle of James, Chapter 2, verse 13:

For judgment is without mercy to the one who has shown no mercy. Mercy triumphs over judgment.

I would like to modify this verse in the following manner:

For judgment is without mercy and forgiveness to the one who has shown no mercy and forgiveness, because mercy and forgiveness supersede, transcend and nullify judgment.

Why is it so important to forgive and show mercy? Because no one is absolute. What it means is that no one can be absolutely good or absolutely evil and negative. In the first place, absolute evil and absolute negativity do not exist. If they were to exist, there would be two absolute gods in existence. Such a concept of existence is mutually exclusive. For that reason, by the logic of this axiomatic fact, only Absolute Goodness and Positiveness exist — The Lord Jesus Christ. In order to break out of the curse of one’s relativity, one needs to be willing to be merciful and forgiving as related to each other’s imperfection, fallibility, limitations and shortcomings. Because I am the absolutely positive God, I am also the absolutely merciful and forgiving God and My Mercy and Forgiveness are always absolutely unconditional.

However, in applying the concept of My Absolute Mercy and Forgiveness to any relative being, that being is put in the position of the freedom of choice and willingness either to accept or to reject My Mercy and Forgiveness. By the very nature and structure of any sentient being, who carries within himself/herself My attributes in the relative condition, the only way My Mercy and Forgiveness can take hold within that individual, is if he/she accepts them by his/her own freedom of choice to do so.

But what happens if that individual is unwilling to forgive others and to show mercy upon them? In that case, that individual is relating from the position of the negative state. To take the position of this adverse nature excludes My presence in it. In that case, My Mercy and Forgiveness cannot take hold or enter into that individual because, by that adverse attitude, that individual shuts the doors for them to enter.

As you see from this example, My Mercy and Forgiveness are contingent on each individual’s willingness and desire, by his/her own free will and choice, to forgive and to show mercy to others — but also to himself/herself. Such willingness and desire puts the respective individual into the positive state, in which state My presence is contained in an absolute sense. In this case, the doors to that individual’s heart and mind are opened and I am able to enter them and, not only impart on him/her My Mercy and Forgiveness, but enable that individual to forgive and to show mercy on others and himself/herself. My presence in that condition, from the position of My Absolute State triggers the ability to do so in that individual. Without Me such an act of mercy and forgiveness would not be possible for that individual to exhibit because no one can be positive from oneself, by oneself and of oneself but only from Me, by Me and of Me, being that I AM the only One who is that way by, of and from Myself alone.

The reason that each individual is to also apply mercy and forgiveness to himself/herself, is in the fact that unwillingness to do so by his/her own free will and choice, keeps him/her in the negative state. In that case, the same rule applies as outlined just now in the previous paragraph.

I hope, Peter, this explanation satisfies you and every prospective reader.

Peter: Yes, very much so. It makes perfect sense to me. I hope it will also make perfect sense for others. Should we finish for today?

The Lord Jesus Christ: Yes, Peter, we should. Go and devote the rest of your time today to some other tasks. Hopefully, Dan will be able to E- mail you the corrections on some previous Dialogs so that you can prepare them for mailing to the selected interested individuals. Go in peace and have a nice day.

Source: DIALOGUES WITH THE LORD JESUS ​​CHRIST PART 1.

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