SIXTIETH DIALOGUE

March 31, 1999

Peter: I would like to present for Your input two issues or two questions today. But, before going into them, may I ask You if You have anything to offer first as related to any topic that we have discussed so far?

The Lord Jesus Christ: Thank you, Peter, for giving Me this opportunity to talk first. I would like to offer some additional comments about religious movements on planet Zero. As you remember, in Chapter 3 of The New Revelation of The Lord Jesus Christ we had extensively discussed the betrayal of Christianity and the outcome of that betrayal as well as why it was permitted to take place. However, not too much has been said so far about other religious systems, other than Christian oriented. As you know, the closest to Christianity is the Islamic religious movement and its respective sects. We have already discussed why it was permitted to be established on planet Zero. In the Fifty Ninth Dialog we have also mentioned the meaning of the green color preferred by the followers of Islam. But in this particular Dialog we need to touch upon the betrayal of Islam as related to its suppression of the proper conceptualization of the nature of Allah or God. No one knows that during the original setup of the Islamic religion, as it was revealed to Mohammed, a different conceptualization of the nature of God or Allah was conveyed to him. As you know, their holy book, the Koran, does include the story of My birth on planet Zero through Mary, as announced to her by My Angel. In that story, originally, two sentences were used as related to My birth. One was related to My being the great prophet; the other to My being the Holy One and the only begotten Son of God.

If you carefully analyze these sentences, particularly the words ‘the Holy One’ and ‘the only begotten Son of God,’ and the way they were used and understood at the time of their utterance, you will notice a very important factor: Such words as ‘the Holy One,’ in the very connotation of what these words mean and signify, could not be used for designating or applying to anyone but only to One God Indivisible, the Almighty. However, because we are dealing here with the purely physical birth, the birth into human life, for humans of that time it was inconceivable that God Almighty Himself/Herself could or would undergo such a putrid, dirty, impure and disgusting mode of birth as the human birth was/is. The contradiction of these terms is obvious. If God is the only One Who is and can be The Holy One, it is impossible for Him/Her to enter something or by means of something which is totally opposite to this Holiness. In order to make this event — My physical birth — acceptable to humans, it was necessary to downgrade or diffuse the understanding of who it was that was being born at that time. For that reason, the words ‘prophet’ and ‘Son of God’, instead of ‘God,’ were used in addition to the words ‘The Holy One.’

It is in these two different designations that the split between Christians’ and Muslims’ understanding of who it was who was born, occurred. Whereas Christians, in addition to the word ‘prophet,’ emphasized the words ‘Son of God,’ later on reinstating the words ‘the only begotten,’ Muslims on the other hand, got stuck with and concentrated on the words ‘prophet,’ totally disregarding the other words. Neither of them properly considered the words ‘The Holy One.’ And even though Christians admit that I am the Holy One, they don’t conceptualize the meaning of that designation in the sense that I am the only one Who is Holy and that there is no one else. In their conceptualization there is also the Holy Father and the Holy Spirit. So, we have here the proverbial Christian Trinity which immensely confused and totally distorted the proper conceptualization and understanding of the nature of God, that is to say, of My True Nature. As you know from the above mentioned chapter, this false conceptualization led, among other things, toward the betrayal of Christianity. And yet, it was provided by My Divine Providence, that in the original description of the announcement of My physical birth, the words ‘the Holy One’ were strongly emphasized in order to implant into the human mind, in its unconscious parts, that the One who was being born at that time was the true God. The logic of this designation — The Holy One — is obvious. It relates to the absoluteness of My Nature. Because I am the only One who is without sin or problems, it means that I am the only One who can be Holy. Everyone else, who is not in such an absolute condition, cannot be holy. At the same time, this logic leads to the irrefutable conclusion that because no two Absolute Beings can be and exist — they would be mutually exclusive, — it means that I am the only God Who is and exists.

Initially, this conceptualization of the term ‘the Holy One’ was clear to Mohammed, the founder of Islam. However, he was unable to reconcile the concept of a typical human birth with any possibility for God to undertake such a step. In his human understanding, only a prophet, or someone sent by God, could be in that position. He was also unable to conceptualize in human terms the possibility that God can have the only begotten Son. To admit such a possibility meant to admit My Divinity. And in his understanding, nothing of divine can become human. To be human, for him, excluded the possibility of being Divine. For that reason, he decided to accept Me only as a prophet who was sent by God to do some important work for Him. The other reason for Mohammed’s inability to accept Me as the only God, was in the fact that he could not conceptualize God as someone who would be able or willing to split Himself into two or more entities. After all, he was led to establish an important concept of the only One Indivisible God. In his understanding, how could God take something out of Himself and give birth to Himself in a human form and nature? Wouldn’t it be splitting or dividing God into two? For that reason, in his understanding, Jesus Christ could not be God or even the only begotten Son of God. He was only a prophet. Maybe a very significant and important prophet, but nevertheless, only one of many important prophets. Later on, in order to ascribe the possibility that prophets can also be holy, the concept of holiness was diluted and degraded in its proper understanding and applicability. This was done in order to justify the need to refute the possibility that I was the true God. After all, if a prophet can also be holy, then, in that case, My holiness does not constitute that I am God.

In this unjust and improper justification is rooted the betrayal of Islam and its prophet Mohammed. Mohammed himself, upon his arrival into the spiritual world, recognized his gross error and made proper amendments. From that point on, he became an ardent follower of Me, as The Lord Jesus Christ, and was assigned the role of bringing these facts of My True Nature, as well as of My New Nature, to all Muslims who have been arriving in the spiritual world. This fact was also noted by Swedenborg. The full understanding of how My physical birth into human life was possible, if I were the only true God, his Allah, did not fully register in his mind until the transmission of My New Revelation and until the explanation of how it happened — as recorded in Chapter Two of The New Revelation of The Lord Jesus Christ, was completed and made available to him and to all other Muslims in the spiritual world. So, in essence, the present-day Muslim religion, because of its disregard and neglect of the proper understanding of who I was, remains, symbolically speaking, green, underdeveloped and incomplete. Because of this factor, it was split into several sects which are in a constant fight with each other in a similar manner as are all other religions and their respective sects on planet Zero.

As far as all other religions are concerned, the majority of them were established before Christianity and Islam. They all derived from the pseudo-creators’ conceptualization of God and their impositions of how and who should be worshiped. Take for example, Hinduism, Greek, Roman, Germanic and Scandinavian ancient religious beliefs. They were all established by the pseudo-creators. At that time, several clans of powerful pseudo-creators existed. Each clan established its own pantheon of pseudo-gods — themselves. From that position, in the various regions of planet Zero and the Zone of Displacement, they imposed on their inhabitants their own brand of pseudo-spirituality, in which they played the roles of gods. So, in essence, these religions, the remnants of the old establishments, continue worshiping the pseudo- creators without realizing who the pseudo-creators were or are. They believe that they worship true gods.

A somewhat different situation exists with Buddhism. As you know, Buddha was a regular human being who allegedly was enlightened. From his enlightenment, Buddha developed a system of teachings that became widespread in India and some other nations. Buddha never considered himself to be God. Only after his death, his followers established a mode of worshiping him which may be equated to the worship of a god. However, in its philosophy, Buddhism is pantheistic and ultimately, somewhat atheistic in the sense that the universe and everything else in nature is divine. In this conceptualization nature is god. Because nature does not have any concept of ‘I am,’ the only logical conclusion that you can derive from this understanding is that there is no god. From this, you can conclude that Buddhism was established by the clan of the pseudo-creators who were strict scientists.

In the process of the pseudo-creators’ fabrications of various creatures and sub-creatures in the Hells, a special brand of demons was fabricated who were put in charge of controlling, developing and influencing some other nations on planet Zero, besides the major ones. These nations comprise various African tribes, South American tribes, Caribbean and Pacific islanders and some Asian tribes. Each of these tribes has its own brand of pseudo-spirituality as imposed on it by the mentioned demons. They introduced themselves to those tribes as their protectors, helpers and gods. So, these types of pseudo-religions established worship of demons. They are still widespread among those tribes.

As you see from this brief explanation, on planet Zero, apart from My New Revelation, nothing exists that would have any semblance of the real truth about My True Nature and about the nature of My positive state, as well as about the true spiritual principles. They all live either in falsities and distortions, or they outrightly worship demons.

As you know, this situation was permitted by Me to be established on planet Zero in order to illustrate and demonstrate the true nature of the negative state and what the results, outcomes and consequences of the activation of the negative state and its end product — human life, led to. As you also know, once this illustration and demonstration is at its last phase, a foundation is built for its elimination. The very first, and the most important, building block of that foundation is My New Revelation in its three sources. Its impact on humanity and all creatures and inhabitants of the Zone of Displacement and all its Hells, as well as on everyone else, will be of tremendous proportions beyond your ability to grasp it. Your responsibility in this respect, as My true representatives, is to carry the light of My New Revelation by examples of your life from the position of My positive state. That light will be utilized, at an opportune time, to enlighten all those trapped in the above-mentioned religions and pseudo-spiritual trends so that they could come out of their blindness rooted in their false belief systems.

Peter: Interestingly enough, Your elaboration brings us to my first issue that I wanted to bring to Your attention. It was raised by Heather and Tom (sister and brother Oudals). The issue is: Why is it that Your New Revelation was translated into Spanish, Russian, Czech and Slovak and of course, why was it transmitted in English? Why has it not been translated into German, French, Italian, Greek, Portuguese, some Chinese languages, Japanese, Arabic, or some of the Indian languages or in some of the other languages?

The Lord Jesus Christ: Well, Peter, as you know, each nation and its language has a very specific correspondence to and position in relationship to the structure of the spiritual and intermediate worlds and to the pseudo-spiritual and pseudo-intermediate worlds. The spiritual situation and the spiritual needs in those worlds, as well as to what an extent their spiritual development is progressing or regressing, respectively, determine which language or nation on your planet is designated for transmission and translation of My New Revelation. Regardless of how big or small the population of those nations in your world is, their spiritual standing and the way they influence the totality- of-it-all, and the importance of their influence and impact on the rest, is what makes a difference. The spiritual correspondences of Russian, Czech and Slovak populations, as well as of the Spanish population, are such that, at the present time, their influence and impact on the rest of Creation and pseudo-creation is of the most significant and greater degree than any others. Their positioning and placement in the spiritual scheme of all unfolding events is such that whatever transpires in their sphere of influence and domain determines for the rest, the overall direction by which they are to go or to continue in their spiritual progression or regression, respectively. Even though from your typical human and planetary view some of these nations are too small or insignificant or their influence and impact on events on planet Zero are negligible or unimportant, it is not so from the position of what they signify, mean and correspond to in the spiritual and pseudo-spiritual worlds and dimensions. Up to this point in time, the English speaking population has had the greatest significance in this respect. Because of its spiritual positioning and correspondence, it was necessary to transmit My New Revelation in this particular language. Only from its position and correspondence, the greatest and the most needed impact on all others could be accomplished and actualized. Subsequently, next in the hierarchy of the spiritual and pseudo-spiritual organization, the Russian, Spanish, Czech and Slovak populations were in the most significant and impacting position and correspondence. Their corresponding position in the realms of other dimensions is such that they are able to exert the most needed influence on the state of affairs in those worlds.

In order to establish a favorable condition for the future elimination of the negative state and for the establishment of the fullness and completeness of life of the positive state, My New Revelation needed to be transmitted and translated first, through and by the means of those nations on planet Zero which are in such a position, role and correspondence. They are able to most significantly and in the most needed manner, place all principles and information of My New Revelation into the sentient minds of all involved and concerned in this respect. Also, they are the ones who represent humanity in such a manner that through them the rest of the nations on planet Zero will be able to establish, when the time comes, their connections to the spiritual reality of My Creation. From that connection they will be able to recognize the truth of My New Revelation.

Another point to this issue is that some nations on planet Zero, in their position of demonstrating and illustrating the consequences, results and outcomes of those religious movements who are directly worshiping pseudo-gods, or whose spiritual conceptualization of the Christian and the Islamic doctrines are totally inappropriate, have not exhausted their usefulness and the purpose for which they were permitted to be in place. They are still needed in their current position in order to continue in providing important learning for all in My Creation and pseudo-creation how not to worship and how not to conceptualize the Nature of God and His/Her spiritual principles. At this point in time, any translation of My New Revelation into their respective languages, from the position of the worlds and dimensions to which they correspond, would directly interfere with this learning process. Therefore, it would be premature to provide them with such a translation. For now and for these times, the impact of My New Revelation on those nations will have to remain only on their deepest unconscious level. There are some other important spiritual reasons why at the present time no other translations of My New Revelation are in the process of being undertaken. But those reasons cannot be revealed at this time. It would be incomprehensible to your human mind. Should anything change in the positioning and role of those nations, such translations would then be in the process of being undertaken. In the meantime, the availability of My New Revelation in the discussed languages is totally sufficient for My purposes.

Peter: Thank You very much for this explanation. My second issue relates to one of Your statements which You uttered in the form of a parable during Your life on planet Zero and which is recorded in the Gospel According to Luke, Chapter 16, verses 1-9. This parable deals with a steward of a certain rich man against whom an accusation was brought that this man was wasting his goods. Because of that, the steward could no longer continue to be a steward. The steward realized that he could do no other type of work so he decided to call every one of his master’s debtors and made them rewrite their bills by lowering the amounts of their debts. He had this done so that they would receive him in their homes after he was fired from his job. So the master commended the unjust steward because he dealt shrewdly. Then You go on, saying, ‘For the sons of this world are more shrewd in their generation than the sons of light. And I say to you, make friends for yourselves by unrighteous mammon, that when you fail, they may receive you into everlasting habitations.’ This particular parable has always been a mystery to me and of all whom I know. In our understanding of those events, the mentioned steward was committing an outright fraud. And yet he was commended for his fraudulent deed. In our times, the steward would go to prison for what he did. Even more mysterious is Your concluding statement about making friends by unrighteous mammon and everlasting habitations. Is it possible for us to have some explanation of the true meaning of this parable?

The Lord Jesus Christ: Of course, Peter. It is time to shed some light on that parable. No one has ever properly understood what it really means or signifies. A deep spiritual meaning and correspondences are contained in the content of this parable. The rich man signifies and represents the entire positive state. Only the positive state is imbued with the true spiritual riches. The steward represents those who were utilizing the energies of the positive state for their own negative purposes or, in this case, for activation of the negative state. The lowering of the amount of the bills of the debtors signifies setting up a condition by which and through which those who activated the negative state will be saved and returned to the positive state. The debtors here signify all in the positive state who received the gift of life from Me. It is My life by which everyone lives and is alive. That the rich man commended the unjust steward for his shrewdness implies an agreement that was made about the outcome of the negative state and on which the negative state was permitted to be activated in the first place. That the sons of this world are more shrewd than the sons of light signifies that all participants in the negative state are more able to utilize available resources contained in the cut-off from the positive state energies for their own purposes than those who reside in the positive state and who are in the state of innocence. To make friends by unrighteous mammon signifies to utilize all available resources, contained in the negative state, for positive and good purposes. By utilizing it that way, after one leaves the negative state, one is eligible to be received in the positive state. And this is all that you need to know about the meaning of this parable.

Peter: Thank You so much for this explanation and for everything contained in this Dialog. Is there anything else today that You would like to add?

The Lord Jesus Christ: No, Peter, that will be all. Have a pleasant rest of the day.

Source: DIALOGUES WITH THE LORD JESUS ​​CHRIST PART 1.

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