SIXTY FIRST DIALOGUE

April 2, 1999

Peter: This morning I would like to begin with yielding to You to talk first. Perhaps You would like to make some comments or to offer us some additional clarifications on anything You feel we are ready to know or need to know. After that, if we still have time, I’ll ask some questions.

The Lord Jesus Christ: I appreciate very much, Peter, your willingness to yield to Me this time at the beginning. Yes, I do have something to discuss with you and all prospective readers of these Dialogs. First of all, I would like to, once again, address the issue of importance and significance of the asked questions and the need to have answers to them. Some of you, including you, Peter, exhibited a certain degree of irritation about some questions that were asked by the readers of these Dialogs. In your opinion, those types of questions were too insignificant and too unimportant, wasting My and your time. For you, the answers to those types of questions were too obvious and too clear without need for their answers. You were almost bored reading My answers to them. Such an attitude on your part indicates a certain degree of spiritual arrogance still present in that part of your mind which relates to your typical human nature.

You have conveniently forgotten what was clearly indicated to you in My New Revelation, especially in the Corollaries... and in the first few Dialogs, that every single reader of My New Revelation, in all its three sources, is on a different level of understanding, acceptance and practice of all their principles. And that there is not one individual, yes, not one, that would be on the same level as any other individual. And not only that, but you were informed by Me that each such an individual — the reader and practitioner of My New Revelation — is connected to many different dimensions in the spiritual world as well as in the pseudo- spiritual world. Because of this important factor, whenever such an individual is asking questions, as long as they are not of a personal nature, he/she is asking them not only from his/her own personal and individual position, but such questions are asked also from the position of those worlds to which he/she is connected. In other words, such questions are being asked also on behalf of all those multitudes of sentient entities who are connected to that individual for this very purpose. Because of that, for that individual and for all those connected to him/her, the asked questions are very important and very significant. This process happens, of course, in most instances, without any conscious awareness of the individual who is asking those types of questions. No matter whether you are or are not consciously aware that this is the case, let it be known to all of you that this is the true reality of your being My representatives. Don’t forget please, that whatever is clear and understandable to you and to that level of being and existence and pseudo-being and pseudo-existence to which you are integrally connected, is not necessarily clear and understandable to some others at their own levels.

So, never underestimate the importance and significance of any questions which are being asked and to which I provide the answers with the greatest possible pleasure. As My true representatives, you need to learn to be a little more humble and not to be smug about your own ability to understand things which are so obvious to you but which might be confusing and unclear to someone else. You are on planet Zero, in My services, not only for yourself but, most importantly, for all others. And don’t forget that these others are not limited to only your co-workers in My services on planet Zero, but they also include all the multitudes of sentient entities who are connected to you and to your co-workers from other dimensions and pseudo-dimensions.

The second issue that I would like to touch upon is your concerns and fears that things in the pseudo-creators’ and renegades’ conflict, as reflected in NATO and the Yugoslavia-Kosovo war, are not working out the way you would like them to work. Instead of resolution of this conflict the way you expected it to be resolved, you are so far experiencing the opposite — the escalation of that war without any sight of its ending soon. One of the many reasons why this situation is the way it is right now, (and this is the only reason that you need and are ready to know at this particular time), is that certain important lessons need to be learned by the pseudo-creators and all involved in this conflict. The Serbs’ defiance is the exemplary reflection of the renegades’ stubbornness, unyielding, rebelliousness, arrogance, viciousness, aggressiveness, evilness and violence.

As far as the pseudo-creators and their NATO are concerned, there are at least two lessons that need to be learned. One is that it is inefficient to use against the renegades the methods that the renegades are using — violence and extermination. No one ever accomplished anything important and significant by means of violence and aggression. Violence breeds only violence and leads to a greater degree of defiance and determination not to yield or to give up. It promotes the need for vengeance and retaliation. They should have been using some other, more effective methods in dealing with this situation. The virtue of patience is still not ingrained in the pseudo-creators’ character. They need to learn it fast if they are to succeed in their endeavor in this, and any other matter. At the same time, this situation with the renegades- Yugoslavs indicates that the renegades still continue in their self- destructive attitude, reflected in their philosophy of ‘better death than surrender.’ They are not yet ready to change this attitude.

The other lesson for the pseudo-creators is in the renegades’ illustration and demonstration of the outcome, results and consequences of their fabrications to whom they gave so much power before their lockup. Once you bring someone to life with an evil and wrong intent, you give an impetus to that one to develop only in one direction — to be more evil, more vicious, more violent, more arrogant, more cunning and more aggressive. Creatures like that, once given a taste of power and domination, are never able to give up their positions voluntarily. So, this situation shows the pseudo-creators very clearly what a horrendous mistake they made in allowing these creatures to be fabricated in such a negative and evil way. As mentioned previously in one of the Dialogs, upon their release from the lockup, the pseudo-creators were very much surprised and almost shocked to see how the development of the renegades had been proceeding up to that point. The present situation, in which the pseudo-creators are finding themselves, reflects the need to bear the consequences of their act of fabrication of the renegades. This situation is in response to their questions about the outcomes and results of such fabrications.

The third issue that I would like to touch upon is the issue of correspondences and the written material. As you remember, in one of the later Dialogs, in which we discussed the phenomenon of pyramids, and similar mysterious structures scattered around the globe, it was indicated to you that they represented various spiritual correspondences which depicted and described obliquely, in a symbolical way, the structure of the spiritual world and everything related to the nature of life in that world. As the process of the externalization of life on planet Zero (planet Earth at that time) continued and the need for recording the true spiritual reality was more and more realized by the ones who inhabited that planet, writing methods were developed and established. For your information, it was at that particular time that, for the first time in the history of your planet, writing and recording in letters was invented and instituted in the life of its inhabitants. At that time, the purpose of that invention was for one reason only — to preserve mankind’s connection to the true spiritual reality, and later on, to the true pseudo-spiritual pseudo-reality, at all cost. The inventors of those methods, through the architectural structures and written material, realized very well that in order to proceed with the experiment, they needed to have such a connection if they were to succeed in anything at all.

At that time, the way the written material was structured was by means of the developed correspondences. For that reason, in the same manner as the architectural structures were depicting in their symbolical representation the spiritual reality of life, so were the words recorded in writings. Thus, each utilized and written-down word contained multiple hidden meanings related to some spiritual events or traits or character or style of life as found and practiced in the spiritual world, and later on, also in the pseudo-spiritual world. For those times, this was a common language by means of which communication was going on amongst all the worlds in all their respective dimensions, including your planet. Because of this factor, the proper spiritual awareness of the true spiritual reality was maintained for some time here. Also, because of this setup, everyone had full knowledge and understanding of what those correspondences meant and signified. No one was ignorant of their meaning.

However, as the spiritual deterioration continued, and as the experiment in establishment of a different life, different from the life of the positive state, was going on, a gradual loss of understanding of the language of correspondences set in. This was permitted to happen in order that the newly fabricated humans would not take hold of these correspondences and misuse and abuse them for their own negative and self-destructive purposes. The way humans were fabricated was that their nature and character reflected the state of total ignorance and proclivity toward abusing, misusing and distorting everything to which they would come across. The problem with the proper knowledge, use and application of correspondences was/is that if they are misused, abused and used for inappropriate purposes, it may lead those who would do such a thing, to eternal damnation. The reason for this eternal damnation is in the fact that anyone who would be utilizing them with an evil intent, would end up in permanent irrevocable denial of any spiritual factors of life, as well as in the denial of the Absolute Being and Absolute Existence of the Creator. In that case, any such person would lock himself/herself into an unchangeable condition from which there would be no way out. In order to prevent this from ever happening, My Divine Providence provided that not only the proper knowledge of the meaning of correspondences was lost, but that all the written material about them and their interpretation was lost likewise. At that time, when the laws and procedures for use and application of correspondences were written, the written material also contained an extensive interpretation and clear explanation of the meaning of correspondences at all their levels.

Can you imagine what would be done by humanity if that particular written material would be available to humans? For that reason, those books, or written material that contained the mentioned explanation and interpretation, were hidden and became inaccessible to anyone on planet Zero. The only thing that remained from that time were the words and sentences which contained pure correspondences, but to which the key for their understanding and interpretation became unavailable.

It was not until Swedenborg came on the scene that some limited aspects of certain correspondences, as contained in the Bible, for example, and in some other so-called holy books, were revealed to him by Me. Some others were revealed in the process of the transmission of My New Revelation contained in all of your books, Peter. However, as you know, many other levels of what those correspondences mean and signify, continue to be unavailable to you and to humanity in general. This unavailability is in place for your own protection and for the protection of humanity. As long as the negative state continues to be and exist in its pseudo-being and pseudo-existence, this situation will remain unchanged. The proper knowledge, understanding and utilization of what correspondences contain, would not only endanger all who are trapped in the negative state and in human life, but it would effectively impede the further illustration and demonstration of their nature and the purpose for which the negative state and human life were allowed to appear in the first place. In that case, the full learning of their nature and their lifestyle could not be completed and registered in the Universality-Of-It-All or in the Guardian-of-Forever. As a consequence, the activation of the fullness and completeness of life of the positive state could not come to its fruition either.

And the last brief comment that I would like to make is about the parable which was recorded by Luke, Chapter 16, verses 1-9 and the meaning of which we discussed in the Sixtieth Dialog. It relates to the steward’s effort to lower the amount of debt on the debtors’ bills. Besides what was said about it in the mentioned Dialog, it also signifies something else which is of a crucial spiritual importance. The amount of the debt which the negative state has against the positive state is such that it cannot be repaid at its current level. Because of that, should a demand be made by Me, or by anyone in the positive state, or by you, as My true representatives, that it pay off the full amount it owes, it would default. In that case, by the rules of the spiritual laws, no one in the negative state could be saved or brought out of its life. They would have to stay forever in order to pay, or to bear the consequences for what they accrued in the process of their negative and evil life. As you know, should something like that be permitted to happen, the positive state could not be activated in its fullness and completeness either. For that reason, by the conditions of My Unconditional Absolute Mercy and Forgiveness, I will allow the lowering of that debt to the level which is fully repayable. In this case, it means that all voluntary participants in the negative state will bear the consequences of their negative and evil lifestyle only to the level which is bearable and sufficient for the needed illustration and learning for all even though, by their despicable deeds, they would deserve to be punished for them for a much longer period of time — if not forever. And this is all that I would like to comment on today. You may, Peter, ask your own questions.

Peter: Recently, as of a few days ago, some of the readers of these Dialogs noticed that they have felt tired, exhausted and low in energies. Others feel lonely, sad and abandoned. Still others are afflicted with all kinds of debilitating physical and, perhaps, even mental conditions or illnesses. Are there any spiritual reasons for these adverse states experienced by some or most of us?

The Lord Jesus Christ: Well, Peter, as you know, nothing exists in any kind of condition, be they spiritual, mental, sexual, physical, social, material, etc., that would not have some important reasons. In the case of those who feel somewhat tired, exhausted and depleted of energies, it is a reflection of your intense involvement in the conflict which is going on between the pseudo-creators and renegades as depicted in NATO’s military campaign in Yugoslavia and Kosovo. As you remember from before, you were told, actually you were advised, to shift all your energies toward helping the pseudo-creators in their struggle with the renegades and help them as much as possible. Those of you who took this advice into your hearts and who are making yourselves and your energies available to the pseudo-creators for that purpose, as well as for some other important purposes, are experiencing this necessary depletion of your energies. Of course, on your conscious level you are not aware to what extent and how your energies help and support them and how they are being given to and passed on to the pseudo-creators. Only on the spiritual, most within level such an awareness exists. The reason for your not having any conscious awareness about this process, is in the fact that if you were to consciously know about all aspects of your involvement, as well as what is really going on at the other levels of the various dimensions of the mentioned conflict, you would not be able to survive physically. The effect of that knowledge would be unbearable and inconceivable to the human aspects of your nature. Thus, it is for your own safety and benefit that you are not, either fully or not at all, aware of your involvement in this conflict. Again, you are advised to turn yourself to Me, or to concentrate on My Presence within you, visualizing or thinking or feeling or imagining yourself, or whatever your mode is, touching Me and tapping through that touch into My Absolute Positive Energies, replenishing yourself with them to the degree of your needs. I will determine, of course, the extent of your needs in this respect. During this period of time, and at any time you feel tired and depleted of your stamina and energies, you are advised to do that at all times. That way you will be able to continue in your work for Me, and synergistically, with the pseudo-creators, without any interruption. Remember please, these are very crucial times and your involvement is needed to your fullest possible extent. On your human level you have absolutely no notion how important these times are. Their immense importance would be beyond your present ability to comprehend or to grasp. Therefore, I am asking you in all humility and humbleness, to endure a little longer and not to give up or not to stop giving support through your own personal energies to the cause in question.

Those of you who are in the process of experiencing feelings of loneliness and a desire to have someone physically next to you or with you, for the purpose of sharing your life and everything you have, are in that position for some of your own very important spiritual reasons. During these crucial times, any other condition, other than what you are experiencing right now, would be detrimental to your spiritual, mental and physical well-being and health. No matter what you consciously think or feel, no matter how much you think that it would be so nice and so beautiful to be with someone for the purpose of sharing at all levels of your life, the opposite would be true. Your life would become so unbearable, so miserable and so unhappy that you would have no desire to continue in it. For that reason, you are advised to stop feeling sorry for yourselves and to realize that it is an illusion of your physical conscious mind to think or to feel that you are alone. Please, bear constantly in your mind that you are never ever alone. You are continuously surrounded by the members of your spiritual family, by the members of the New Universe and by all members of your home base from which you incarnated on planet Zero. But, most importantly, I am always with you, on a 24-hour a day basis. If you train yourself to think in these terms, your loneliness and feelings of desperation will melt away. At the same time, you will realize that you should be thankful, grateful and appreciative that you are externally, on your physical level, not involved with anyone because, by not being involved, you are avoiding something very dangerous to your entire life. Please, consider these factors and accept your destiny for what it is at the present time. After all, you agreed to go through these kinds of experiences.

And the same is true for those of you who have some very unpleasant, painful and debilitating physical and/or mental conditions. In an ultimate sense, all these adverse conditions serve some kind of protective purpose. Again, you have no idea what kinds of dangers you are avoiding by allowing yourself to have such conditions. Of course, there is much more to the reasons behind these conditions than what was said above. However, for security reasons, it would be premature for you to know why it is that it was necessary for you to submit yourself to have these conditions, be they physical (such as for example, cancer, rheumatism, multiple sclerosis, attention deficit disorder, heart conditions, high blood pressure and many others), or mental (such as for example, anxieties, depression, melancholy, worries, etc.) or spiritual (such as for example, doubts about yourself, about your spiritual standing, about your spiritual worth, about your role and position, etc.). Remember please, for some important spiritual reasons, you agreed to have them and to experience them. Because this aspect of our discussion has a purely individualized and personalized connotation, it would not be beneficial to say more about it at this particular time. For that reason, I would recommend to finish for today and to resume our dialoging some other time. I wish you all a very pleasant and inspiring day.

Peter: Thank You very, very, very much for Your input in these matters.

Source: DIALOGUES WITH THE LORD JESUS ​​CHRIST PART 1.

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