To read aloud
SIXTY SEVENTH DIALOGUE
April 13, 1999
Peter: Today, I personally don’t have any particular questions of
multiversal, or any other, significance. Neither did I receive any
questions from anyone. However, one problem was brought to my
attention by Dr. Ardyth Norem about the inappropriate use of the term
“in lieu” in the Sixty Second Dialog and maybe in some others. In the
English language that term means “instead of” or “in place of.” So, when
I was asking You at the very beginning of that Dialog whether You have
something to contribute “in lieu” of Your resurrection, I meant it in a
totally different connotation than the English meaning of that word. My
meaning was whether You had something to contribute about the fact of
Your Resurrection. So, anyone who will be reading that question, should
replace the word “in lieu” with the words “about the fact of.” I am sorry
for the inconvenience that it may cause to the readers, especially those
who are in the process of translating these Dialogs into some other
languages. Obviously, I am far from being perfect in the usage of some
words in English, or any other languages.
The Lord Jesus Christ: Don’t be so hard on yourself, Peter. Such
mistakes are common and understandable. I can assure you, the majority
of the readers of these Dialogs will understand your question the way
you meant it to be and not the way it is meant in English. Of course, it is
a good idea to make appropriate corrections and it was kind of Ardyth to
bring it to your attention.
Peter: For me it is a little embarrassing. However, I accept the fact of
my human imperfections and limitations. But, to go back to today’s
business — if I may say so. As I mentioned at the beginning, neither I
nor anyone else have any particular or significant questions at this time.
Therefore, I would like to ask You if You have anything to contribute or
add or elaborate upon today.
The Lord Jesus Christ: Thank you, Peter, for asking Me. Yes, I do
have something to add to the issue discussed in the Sixty Sixth Dialog.
Let’s say that today is a continuation of our discussion about the issue of
separation of Love and Wisdom, Good and Truth and Positive Works and
Faith, and femininity and masculinity, as well as of the concept of what
humans call ‘marriage.’
As mentioned in that Dialog it was necessary to split and separate these
principles in order to give a chance for the negative state to be activated.
The original purpose of that split and separation on the part of the
pseudo-creators was for the establishment of a lifestyle which would not
only substantially differ from the lifestyle of the then existing positive
state, but that it would be totally opposite to it in the sense of opposing
it. The purpose was purely scientific in order to test the possibility of any
other lifestyle, other than the lifestyle of the positive state.
As long as Love and Wisdom, Good and Truth, and Positive Works and
Faith, and all their attributes, characteristics and derivatives, are in the
state of unification, integration and oneness, no other lifestyle is possible
to establish. Knowing that from the position of pure Love, and its
Goodness and Positive Works, no other lifestyle than the positive one
could be conceived and subsequently established, it was necessary to
isolate and separate that Love and all its attributes, characteristics and
derivatives from its state and process of unification, oneness and
integration, with Wisdom and all its attributes, characteristics and
derivatives. After all, the nature of Love, and its structure and dynamics,
is such that it can produce nothing else but what is positive and good.
Pure Love can generate and establish no other products of any kind.
This is one of the major reasons why it was necessary to suppress all
principles of Love and put them into a minor and subservient position.
And because Love is of purely feminine principle, it was necessary to
separate and split femininity from masculinity and put masculinity into
the dominant position. In the state of this type of separation and split, a
totally new lifestyle was established that had never been conceived or
was possible before that time. This is the genesis of the activation of the
negative state.
Based on these types of factors, human life, and life of all in the Zone of
Displacement and its respective Hells, was developed and established.
Therefore, anything in human life, as well as in all other types of pseudo-
lives, is founded on and derives from these factors of separation and split.
If you look carefully on the history of humankind, you will notice that
during all its history, females, in the majority of human cultures, were
always in a position of subservience and slavery to the dominant males.
Their function and role were limited to childbearing and being
housewives. In most instances, they were excluded from any important
decision-making processes or from occupying any significant and
important social positions unless, of course, they were of the so-called
royal heritage.
Due to the fact that the lifestyle of humanity and everyone else in the
negative state was established on the principle of dominance of males
over females, in order for Me to personally incarnate on planet Zero into
the typical human life, and in order to succeed in My mission, it was
necessary to accept the existing condition on this planet and take the
form of a male. Two reasons existed for this necessity. One was that only
from the position of being a male, could I be listened to and accepted as
having any authority at all. The other, more important and significant
one, was that, in order to establish a condition in human life and the life
of the negative state in general for their eventual elimination, you need
to begin from the midst of their own nature, from their own position,
from their own within and from everything upon which they founded the
meaning of their life. Any other position would not only be inconceivable
by anyone in that life but it would be flatly rejected.
As you see from this situation, it was necessary for Me Personally to
follow the same procedures in the process of My incarnation on planet
Zero and into the negative state as ‘to what’ the activation of the
negative state went through. Thus, as you remember, an element from
My Absolute Masculinity was temporarily separated and split from My
Absolute Nature and combined with certain human elements. Because
that element derived from the State and Process of My Absolute
Masculinity, it enabled Me to be born into human life in the form of a
male.
Another point to the necessity of being born as a male, was that it was
the masculine aspect of life of the positive state which was split, isolated
and separated from the totality of all principles of femininity, or, in this
case, from the principles of Love, Goodness and Positive Works. It was
not the feminine principle that initiated and established that separation,
isolation and split. Therefore, any reunification, reintegration and
reconnection of the masculine, or Wisdom, Truth and Faith, with its
feminine, or Love, Good and Positive Works, must begin from the
position of that which separated, isolated and split itself from it. Thus, it
has to be initiated from the position of masculinity. This is the reason
that, during My human life, I had to be a male. It was necessary for Me
to fully experience the state of separation, isolation and split in the same
manner as humans did in order to be able to incorporate it into My
Nature for the purpose of its transformation and establishment of
favorable conditions for the eventual elimination of this burdensome and
miserable split, separation and isolation. The point here to realize is that
you cannot reunify, reconnect and reintegrate that which was separated,
isolated and split from outside of yourself. First you have to incorporate
it into yourself, into your very nature, before you can do anything about
it. Unless it is contained in your very nature, in its experiential mode,
not only wouldn’t you have any recourse of doing it, but you wouldn’t
know how to do it; instead, you would reaffirm the lifestyle of the
negative state. This is one of the major reasons why it was absolutely
necessary for Me to incorporate into My Nature everything that I
experienced during My incarnation on planet Zero and in the Hells. As
you remember, that incorporation produced and established My
Absolutely New Absolute Nature.
Once that incorporation was completed, from the very within of Myself, I
could initiate the process of reintegration, reunification and reconnection
of everything that was split, isolated and separated for the original
purpose of activation of the negative state. First, it had to happen within
Me. After all, while in human life, I was separated, isolated and split
from My very Essence and Substance. And not only that, but I brought
back with Me something that had never been part of Me — the human
nature and the human physical body — and imparted it on My Original
Nature. It would be impossible for anyone, anywhere and anywhen to
even remotely comprehend what this most significant, most important
and most vital process entailed and what the consequences, outcomes
and results of it were, have been, and will be to the very eternity. Suffice
it to say, that the completion of this process established a foundation for
and put into motion the future reintegration, reunification and
reconnection of everything and all that was split, isolated and separated
from its original source. This process, which is going on right now, is the
process of the gradual elimination of the negative state and of all
negative aspects of the human nature.
While the process of reintegration, reunification and reconnection was
going on within My original Nature, that Nature changed and, around
Christmas of 1987, I became the fullness of The Lord Jesus Christ. The
closer that process was coming to the state of completion, a more obvious
shift in the conceptualization of femininity and masculinity in human life
was occurring. Suddenly, in the so-called civilized countries, feminist
movements started to appear — the purpose of which was for women to
break out from their accursed position of being less important, less
valuable, less needed and less deserving than men. All these movements,
although their philosophy was/is based on somewhat distorted and
incorrect premises, were and are the results of that which I established
in the process of reintegration, reunification and reconnection of
everything within Me that was originally split, isolated and separated for
the purpose of experiencing human life and the pseudo-life of the
negative state. Without this example, which I established by My Own
Life and experiences, no such movements could ever occur.
In the process of the long history of the pseudo-creators’ reign, they
gradually lost any perspective for the need to have any other type of life
other than the life of split, isolation, separation from and supremacy over
females. Their original attitude in this respect is reflected in the lifestyle
of some nations on your planet that place women in the most demeaning
positions you can imagine. Such an abominable attitude is reflected in all
Muslim countries, for example.
The present state of affairs in this respect is such that, on your planet,
there is a tendency to manifest two trends. On one hand, more and more
awareness exists that women’s positions should be fully equalized with
men’s; on the other hand, in some of the mentioned Muslim countries you
see the opposite extremist attitude and establishment. This is a
reflection of the split that occurred between the pseudo-creators and the
renegades.
Originally, the purpose for which the pseudo-creators initiated the
discussed-here split, was for purely scientific curiosity of what would
happen if you separate, split and isolate the masculine from the feminine
and put the masculine into a dominant position. The question was: What
would be the nature of life if it were to be established with this type of
setup? You see, Peter, and all who read these words, this portion of the
original question (the original question in this respect is much broader
than this one), has already been answered for the pseudo-creators. Now
they know, based on everything that they have seen in human life and in
the entire Zone of Displacement, what it is and how it is to be in such a
pseudo-life. Because of that, they are in the process of relinquishing their
previous state, and they are in the process of learning a totally new
attitude and perception of what women’s place should be, to what that
place corresponds, and what it is like in the true positive state. As a part
of that learning, which happens during their residence in the New
School, they are being assigned to females on planet Zero, primarily and
particularly to those females who read, accept and practice the three
sources of My New Revelation. They will learn from you how it is to be in
the position of a human female, because contrary to all their
expectations, you are not only able to read, understand, accept and
practice everything contained in My New Revelation, but you are able to
ask your own questions, get your own answers and to be on par with any
men who have the same connection to My New Revelation and
sometimes you are able to understand it even better than some men. The
pseudo-creators assumed, that the way they fabricated a human female,
women could never be able to reach or accomplish the same degree of
knowledge, understanding and acceptance as men. Thanks to you, My
women, they are in the process of unlearning this falsity. By learning
that, they will change their attitude toward women.
For your information, in order to help all the pseudo-creators in this
important process of learning, several important pseudo-creators,
representatives of each of their clan and faction, as of now, are being
assigned to all females on planet Zero, connected to My New Revelation,
by their prior agreement. This portion of your agreement, ladies, is being
activated right now, as of this very moment and as you are reading these
words. This is a very important role that you will be playing in helping in
this process.
A totally different situation exists in this respect with the position of the
renegades. Whereas in the case of the pseudo-creators, the sole purpose
of the discussed split, separation, isolation and disconnection was to
learn about their consequences, outcomes and results and to obtain a
very important answer to their existential question, the renegades have
no such motivation and intention. Their purpose and goal is to continue
in the pseudo-life of the negative state and to dominate over all and
everything without any end. And because the pseudo-life of the negative
state is founded on and is possible only due to the separation, isolation,
split and disunion of all discussed principles, and on the dominance of
males over females, the renegades, with great ferocity and
determination, want and desire nothing more than to continue in this
trend. And not only that, but they have established even more restrictive
and vicious demands toward their females in this respect. This attitude
of the renegades is reflected on your planet in the extremist Islamic
groups, such as for example, in Afghanistan, who demand that all men
have beards and that all women stay home, be fully covered and don’t
hold any office, work, or position.
In this respect, you can say for sure that the majority of the followers of
Islam, because of their pseudo-spiritual policies toward femininity and
women in general, have been totally and completely subsumed by the
renegades. As in the original setup by the pseudo-creators, from which
they are presently receding, in the conceptualization of the renegades
and their minions, women are good only for sex, procreation, raising and
taking care of their children, cooking and performing the household
chores.
Of course, even in your own country, the situation in this respect is far
from being equalized. In valuing a woman’s role and position in the
workplace, for example, the tendency still exists to remunerate a woman
for her work in a lesser amount than a man in the same position. As you
see, it is not as easy to get rid of many millennia of built-up and accepted
habits, customs and cultural mores regarding women’s position in human
life as we would like. It will take time, a lot of time, to accomplish this
most needed and desirable goal.
In the process of the activation of the negative state, the pseudo-creators
were seeking something that would replace the important and life-giving
spiritual principles rooted in their unity, oneness, integration,
cohesiveness and harmony. In other words, in order to establish any life,
no matter of what nature and content, some semblance and imitation of
the nature of the positive state was necessary to fake. Otherwise, nothing
could be established in a lasting manner. After many centuries of
experimentation, they came up with the concept of ‘marriages.’
Marriages were invented by them in order to replace the true states,
processes and conditions of unity, oneness, harmony, integration and
cohesiveness of all spiritual principles. Because in any marital
relationship two distinctly different individuals are involved, and
because their union is accomplished solely from the position of without,
no actual unification, integration and oneness takes place between them
and in the state of their internals where it counts and where it can
reflect the true nature of such unification and integration. What you
have to realize in this respect, is that it is possible to activate the
negative state only from the position of the externals. Thus, any such
marital unions are also only of the external nature and therefore, they
don’t represent any danger to the pseudo-life of the negative state. Just
the opposite: Because they reaffirm the position of the external
involvement, they support, fuel and give life to the negative state. In this
sense, as revealed previously in My New Revelation, any form of
marriage is negative and, basically, of evil origin.
When we are talking about the state of unification, integration and
oneness of all principles of femininity with all principles of masculinity
and of all principles of masculinity with all principles of femininity, we
are talking about the accomplishment of such states within each
individual in being and existence and pseudo-being and pseudo-
existence, and not about marriages or unification of one man with one
woman or one woman with one man. Only that which happens within
each of them, that’s the only thing which counts and that’s what is
needed to be worked on and be accomplished in order to eliminate the
negative state and human life with all their fake replacements — such
as, for example, marriages.
That this is the issue of the process of individualization and
personalization as related to one individual, is obvious from My Own
Absolute Nature. I am not two or three or more individuals but I Am
One, and the only One Absolute Individual. It is within Me that all
discussed principles are in the state of their absolute unification,
integration, oneness, harmony and cohesiveness. And because all
individuals in being and existence, as well as potentially in all pseudo-
being and pseudo-existence, reflect, in some way or other, this Nature,
they are all individuals relative to My being Absolutely the only One
Individual. Therefore, it is within them that the same state, process and
condition needs to be established in order to approximate this Absolute
Nature in their own relative condition. On such approximation their true
life depends.
Due to the fact that the pseudo-creators made things wrong in this
respect, under My personal guidance and leadership, they will be put in
charge of making things right once again — after they acquire in the
New School all necessary means for accomplishing this goal first within
themselves and then subsequently dealing with all others in their former
domain and with humans, bringing them to the same state of
reunification, reintegration and reconnection as the pseudo-creators will
have at that time. Once this is accomplished, the negative state and
human life in its negative aspects will be no more. And this is all that I
wanted to share with all of you today. Go and have a very pleasant day.
Peter: Thank You very much for this interesting enlightenment.
Source: DIALOGUES WITH THE LORD JESUS CHRIST PART 1.
