SIXTY EIGHTH DIALOGUE

April 15, 1999

Peter: Also today, no questions of multiversal significance or of urgent importance were asked by anyone. Neither do I have anything to ask of that nature. However, for a few days now, I have had something on my mind that is of concern to me personally. Because, in its true sense, this concern is not personal but purely spiritual, I would like to bring it to Your kind attention, if I may. But before I do that, let me ask if You have anything to offer this very foggy early morning.

The Lord Jesus Christ: It is really very foggy, Peter. And although fog of this nature is very common in coastal California at this time of the year, your state of mind, presently, in some ways, reflects this fogginess. It relates to your concerns which, in essence, to some degree, cloud your perception of the issue which has been on your mind. But before going into that, I do have something to contribute this morning. And since you are so kind to give Me the opportunity to talk first, I’ll take advantage of that and will do so. Thank you for your offer.

This morning I have some good news and, from the standpoint of the situation in the negative state’s domain and in human life on planet Zero, some bad news. The good news for the positive state is that we are seeing some positive movements in the clan of the pseudo-creators who belong to their far right branch. As you know, that branch has always been on the extreme side of scientific-mindedness and a very aggressive approach for the resolution of any problems they have been encountering. Because of this scientific-mindedness, their nature has been emotionally cold, detached and ‘objective,’ without any personal warmth, compassion, love, modesty and humbleness. In their attitude they have always been somewhat arrogant, grandiose, aggressive, proud of their accomplishments and inconsiderate of others. Because of this type of nature, these particular pseudo-creators lost any sense, and even any experience, about what it is to truly love and to be truly loved. If you take into consideration that the basic premise of their lifestyle derived from rejection of the principles of love, goodness, positive works, compassion and empathy, then it is obvious that any aspects of these principles, rooted in the nature of femininity, would be alien to them, and they wouldn’t know how to express them or how to experience them. After the split, nothing remained in their experiential mode that would contain any traits of these principles. As you know, this was the only way they could be if they wanted to activate the negative state and its pseudo-life.

This situation is still reflected in some human languages, the vocabulary of which does not contain the word ‘love’ in its true sense as conceptualized and understood by everyone in the positive state. Instead, in those languages there are many substitutes for the word ‘love’ and what it really signifies for them. However, My Divine Providence provided that the major human languages contain the word ‘love,’ although its meaning doesn’t always match what it means and signifies in its true sense and how it is perceived, understood, conceptualized and manifested in the life of the positive state.

The discussed-here branch of the pseudo-creators was put in charge of finding effective substitutes for love and all its principles. If such substitutes were impossible to find and establish, then, in that case, they would have to come up with the interpretation of what love really means and how it should be manifested, felt and expressed in such a way that the conceptualization of their understanding of love would have nothing in common with what true love means and really is. So, in essence, in the negative state, and in the majority of human life, the concept of love, and how it is understood and expressed, very often does not have anything in common with true love. We can call it pseudo-love. The problem that the pseudo-creators faced during their effort to invent and activate the negative state was that, in order to succeed in their effort, they needed to come up with something that would have enough resemblance to true love and yet, that would have nothing of the nature of that love. The reason for such a need is in the fact that any life at all can be invented and established only on the principles of love. Love is the very foundation of any life. It is its essence, as wisdom is its substance. So, in order to establish life of the negative state, some kind of fake substitute of true love needed to be invented and put into motion. This was the most formidable task and it took many millennia to come up with something like that. It would be impossible for you to understand even remotely how all this was accomplished by the pseudo-creators.

In scientifically analyzing the concept of love and what it contains and how it is expressed and directed, the pseudo-creators came up with something that had never been in existence before that time and that no one had ever experienced in their personal life. If true love was founded on sharing with others, on utmost consideration for others; if it was directed from within to without and always, first, to others; if the meaning of love was in giving, receiving, reciprocating and wanting good, delight, pleasure and happiness for all, and in all similar factors and characteristics, then, in that case, an opposite direction of that love needed to be taken in such a manner that this love would be directed only to oneself, from without to within oneself, and to anything that can serve one’s own selfish well-being, without any consideration for others. If genuine and true love is unconditional, because it is its nature to be that way, then in the pseudo-love of the negative state, the way it was invented and established by the original pseudo-creators, this love was turned into being only conditional. By placing conditions to their love, pseudo-love actually, they effectively nullified any positive meaning of the true and genuine love. And yet, because they had to begin with the original concept of love, they were able to convince the pseudo-life of the negative state, which was being established, that it is truly and deeply loved. Here is the mystery of the life-making process. In order for anything to be and to exist, no matter in what form, shape, state, condition, or whatever, you need to convince it that it is being loved. Otherwise, no possibility would exist to sustain such life. Simply stated, anything alive needs to be loved. If it is not loved, it cannot be effective and successful in its own being and existence and thus, it can’t continue in its own life.

This is how the scientific pseudo-creators were able to accomplish their goal. They proved to the newly established pseudo-life of the negative state that they loved it. By loving it, by cherishing it, by taking care of it, they succeeded in making it functional in all its numerous aspects. And because any life is a matter of internals, in order to love the negative state, it was necessary to internalize and individualize it, making it the very core of their unique individualities. The logic of this setup is in the fact that, if you make the pseudo-life of the negative state your own internals, that is to say, if you make the negative state the essence and substance of your spirit and soul, by which they will live and function, in order to sustain it within yourself, you have to direct all that love to yourself and no one else. This is how the concept of self-love, in all its negative aspects, came to its adverse fruition. And this is how life of the negative state is maintained and how it flourishes and multiplies.

The extension of this self-love, the life of the negative state, is love to this world or the externals only. The fundamental principle of self-love is to have everything only for oneself. Because of this principle, everything has to serve one’s own needs only, without any regard for anyone or anything. In order to fully satisfy this principle, and in order to exclude anyone from the sphere of sharing anyone or anything, the substantial portion of that self-love is the need for power and control. If I love only myself, then everyone and everything out there has to love me, respect me, serve me, provide for me and worship me. They are here only for me and I am here only for myself. I will love them only if I have total control and power over them. Therefore, I will love them solely for my own self and not for their selves. This is how conditional love came into its adverse fruition, becoming love to this world. This form of pseudo-love is founded on the premise that anything out there is my extension and process, the purpose of which is to serve me and to be under my control and power. If nothing were to exist out there, I would not be able to fulfill my self-loving needs for control, power and domination. After all, over whom or what could I have power, control and domination if nothing would exist out there? This is how love to this world or the externals was established.

Now, with these two factors in hand — self-love and love to this world — the pseudo-creators were able to subterfuge the newly established lifestyle of the negative state and all its inhabitants into believing that, first of all, they are being loved, and secondly, that their life is the only possible life that has any meaning, purpose and reality. And to give any semblance that it is a real love, they invented the concept of ‘marriage’ which gave them some idea of sharing. But look under what conditions such pseudo-unions are established. They are based on self- exclusiveness, possessiveness, enslavement, mutual dependency, a closed-in loop, jealousy, and similar negative characteristics which feed on nothing and no one else but one’s self-love and love to this world, perpetuating them ad infinitum. With such characteristics, the life of the negative state continues to stand on firm ground.

At the present time however, under the influence of the studied consequences, results and outcomes of this pseudo-life, it is becoming clear to the pseudo-creators, including also their far right branch, that such life is a self-feeding loop that leads nowhere. And not only does it lead nowhere, but it produces exactly the opposite of what the pseudo- creators wanted to prove and accomplish. Whereas the two other factions or branches of the pseudo-creators realized this fact some time ago, and because of that they decided to enter the special division of the New School for the purpose of their conversion to the positive state, the third branch only now is beginning to realize the futility of their effort and experimentation. Because of that, we are seeing the very first members of that clan coming to our side and entering the New School for the purpose of their conversion to the positive state. This is the good news for the positive state which we were talking about at the beginning of this Dialog.

As a result and consequence of their wise decision, Lyudmila encountered, for the first time, a pseudo-creator from that clan who was assigned to her in order to learn what true love is all about and how it relates to the principle of femininity. Because the issue here is love, goodness, sharing and positive works for the sake of principle, without any other negative selfish connotation, and because they are the nature of femininity, those pseudo-creators from the mentioned far-right branch, will be assigned to you, My ladies, who are connected to My New Revelation. Besides the other pseudo-creators, these have a very special and strong need to learn about love, sharing, giving, kindness, compassion and empathy, that is to say, about femininity and all its attributes, characteristics and manifestations. Only you, ladies, can and may provide them with this experience. In encountering this particular pseudo-creator, Lyudmila rightly noticed the striking difference between him and others assigned to her from the two other branches. This pseudo-creator had an air of arrogance, roughness, sturdiness, detachment and coldness about him. But, as he is interacting with Lyudmila, he is learning fast the new ways of relating which are offered to him by her. And this is the way that all others from that branch will be coming to you for the same purpose. Because this is a learning process for all the pseudo-creators, and not only for this particular branch, whoever of you is and will be involved with them, is and will, obviously, be an integral part of the faculty that runs the mentioned special division of the New School. This is a very noble and vitally important assignment for all of you who agreed to participate in this process.

So, this is the good news. From the position of the negative state it is, of course, the bad news. The other aspects of the bad news for humans and all others in the negative state are that, as more and more pseudo- creators are converting to the positive state by the means of the New School, the renegades and all their minions are becoming more and more unmanageable, more and more evil, ruthless and determined to keep hold on their control, power and dominion. As a result of their negative and evil effort, life on this planet will become more complicated, chaotic, unbearable, evil, negative, unpredictable and intolerable. These are all signs that the negative state is in the final phase of winning on your planet. Of course, looking on this bad news from the perspective of the positive state, for everyone in it, it is good news, because it accelerates the time when the negative state, with all its atrocities and abominations, will be eternally eliminated and the life of the positive state, in its fullness and completeness, will come to its most desirable fruition. And this is all, Peter, that I wanted to contribute for your information today. You may now formulate your concerns. I know what they are and how they came about but it would be a good idea if you were to state them in your own words.

Peter: Thank You very much for Your contribution and enlightenment. And I truly appreciate that You bear with my foolish concerns. As You know so well, my concerns are regarding the literal sense of the Bible, and especially with Your own literal statements as recorded in the four Gospels (Matthew, Mark, Luke and John), as well as in the Apocalypse. I am very well aware that in all books of Your New Revelation, much was said and explained about the reasons why such negative language was utilized and why it was necessary to talk the way You did. However, it seems to me that I have not been entirely successful in getting rid of the feelings that something is wrong about the way I understand and convey things to others and to myself about them. As you know, I was raised in a very conservative, evangelical Baptist environment. In that environment I was fed with mother’s milk, so-to-speak, that whatever was written in the Bible, in its very literal sense, has an eternal, unchangeable and immutable validity, and anyone who says anything contrary to this fact commits unpardonable sin and deserves eternal punishment in the lowest of the lowest Hells. Two problems with this situation exist: One, as You know, in my foolish youth, I was preaching exactly the same things throughout the Baptist churches in the region where I was born. So, I am guilty of the same spiritual crime. Second, and the most important one: Anything that is conveyed to us in Your New Revelation is in total and complete contradiction to everything, or almost everything, that is contained in the Christian Bible, or in any other so- called holy books. If I were a follower of Islam, their fanatics would probably put out a contract for a million dollars on my life as they did to the author of Satanic Verses. Of course, Christian fanatics would probably do the same to me as they do with doctors who perform abortions. I am surprised that no one has yet assassinated me. Any comments about these concerns of mine? Not that I am afraid to be assassinated. I wouldn’t be the first one or probably the last, but I am more afraid when coming to the spiritual world, that I will face this awful dilemma of being in the position of eternal punishment for everything that I have done and for what I have so far transmitted in Your Name. Whew, this was a long sentence. Please forgive me.

The Lord Jesus Christ: I forgive you gladly. I perfectly understand your predicament and position, Peter. As you recall, during last night’s sleep you had very troubling and disturbing dreams, in which you found yourself constantly hiding from and avoiding some vague, non- identifiable dangers. You couldn’t put your finger on what it was that you were hiding from and avoiding. Those dreams reflected your anxieties and fears about this issue. Yes, much was said and revealed in My New Revelation about why it was necessary for Me to talk, and for My disciples to write, the way it was recorded in the Bible and the way it was done at that time. For the peace of your mind, let us reiterate certain aspects of this anxiety-provoking ‘why.’

Consider the quality, the state, the nature and the condition of that time as compared to this time and to various times, not only in the history of humanity on planet Zero, and not only in the history of the entire Zone of Displacement, but also in the history of the entire positive state, as well as, most importantly, in the history of My Own function, manifestation and creative efforts. Let us assume for a moment that whatever was written in the Bible and in the other so-called holy books, has absolute, eternal, immutable, unchangeable and non-modifiable validity beyond and above which nothing more could or may be experienced or explained or revealed. If this situation were to be true, then what would happen? Everyone, everywhere and everywhen would be locked-in forever to stay in the same condition, state, situation and process as they were at the time of such statements and revelations. No progress, no development, no changes and no nothing could ever be possible or feasible. (I am aware that English grammar doesn’t tolerate two negatives, in this case, ‘no nothing.’ But I want to leave it as it is for emphasis). However, as you know, nothing is the same as it was at that time, or as it was at Swedenborg’s time, or any other times, or as it is at the very present time, or as it will be in the future time.

If you take into consideration the nature of each particular time, you can function, you can talk about and reveal things only from the position of the nature and requirements of each particular time. During My incarnation on planet Zero, the situation was such in the entire being and existence and pseudo-being and pseudo-existence, that, under their current spiritual development and progression, or regression in the negative state, respectively, existing at that time, no other mode of conveyance of spiritual or any other ideas was not only not available but was not conceivable or needed. No one would understand any other language. It is not necessary to go into any other aspects of these issues because they were extensively discussed on several occasions in previous portions of My New Revelation. Here, I would only like to again and again emphasize that, due to the human nature, and the nature of everyone in the negative state, everything has a tendency to be perceived in a stagnant, immutable and unchangeable state. Don’t forget please, that all those words were said by Me at that time, as recorded by My disciples. If I say something, humans perceive it as something that has an eternal validity because I am eternally the same and unchangeable. Therefore, My Words must have the same meaning and they cannot ever be changed in the same way as I am unable to change in My Nature or unable to change My Mind. As you see from this example, the problem here is not in what I said at that time, but how My Nature is being conceptualized, understood and portrayed.

The totally false and distorted perception, understanding and acceptance of My Nature, or Who I truly Am, leads to the distortions, falsification, misunderstanding and misinterpretation of everything I said, or revealed or what was said and revealed in My Name. The obvious contradiction of this situation is that, if God-Me is considered to be the only Creator who gives impetus to any progress, evolution, revolution, changes, or whatever, then how, ever, can such things happen if I Myself never change or progress in an absolute sense? Does it make any sense to consider things otherwise? Think about it, Peter, and you will see the beautiful logic in the need to always come up with something new, leaving behind everything that was new and proper at that time, or at each particular time, but which is now old and worn out, because it served its purpose and fulfilled its needs but which would be totally improper, regressive and destructive at each new and different time. I’ll let you go now so that you can meditate on this. Have a nice day and meditation during the rest of this day.

Peter: Thank You very much for all that You conveyed to us and for Your understanding.

Source: DIALOGUES WITH THE LORD JESUS ​​CHRIST PART 1.

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