To read aloud
SIXTH DIALOGUE
December 30, 1998
Peter: I would like to begin this morning with the concerns that were
expressed last night in my conversation with Dan about some statements
in the Fifth Dialog. As you’ve heard, they relate to the situation with
President Clinton. It seemed to us as though You were allegedly
justifying Clinton’s wrong behavior and attitude. I am afraid that some
other readers of that Dialog might have the same feelings. Could You
comment on that?
The Lord Jesus Christ: Most certainly, Peter. I am glad that this
question was raised once again because it needs further elaboration and
explanation. Both of you were almost offended by what was said about
him in this respect. However, your problem was that you looked on the
whole situation from a typical human standpoint and not from the
spiritual, or My standpoint. My knowledge about this situation is
absolute, whereas yours is relative and, in most instances, distorted. Just
look at the source of your information and knowledge about it. What is
the source of your information and knowledge? Either from your external
observation, which is typically human and thus, unreliable, or from the
media, which is known to be notoriously distorted, incorrect or even false.
As you see, you do not know what is behind the scene of the whole setup
with this issue.
What you disregarded in this respect is the factor of the admission of
wrongdoing by President Clinton. Any time anyone admits either
publicly or privately that he/she is wrong, apologizes and asks for
forgiveness, by virtue of that fact, that person opens the door for My
Absolute Unconditional Mercy and Forgiveness to enter him/her and
nullify the entire wrongdoing. This is the way My Absolute Nature is.
The remorse, the bad feelings that person experiences about
himself/herself at that moment and the shame and embarrassment that
he/she feels are sufficient retribution for acts of that nature. No further
need for punishment is required after that. President Clinton publicly
admitted his wrongdoing, apologized for it and asked the American
people for forgiveness. Regardless of whether what he did or didn’t do
was wrong and criminal from your typical human standpoint, and from
the standpoint of your typical human criminal justice system, he, as
everyone else, deserves another chance. No matter how evil, how bad,
how horrible that person was or is, any time that person apologizes and
asks for forgiveness, his/her request in this respect is always granted by
Me.
Of course, being typical humans, it is difficult for you to avoid a
judgmental and punitive attitude and desire because, psychologically
speaking, it triggers within you the need to be punished for your own
shortcomings which you, as humans, all have. In this case, your demand
for Clinton’s punishment assuages your own needs to be punished.
However, don’t forget that you, as agents of the positive state, connected
to My New Revelation, are not typical humans only. For that reason, you
need to learn to look behind the scenes and to see things from an entirely
different perspective in all matters of life and not only with President
Clinton’s situation. Unfortunately, last night you erred in that you used
very inappropriate words in describing President Clinton’s character.
You named him a horrible, bad, evil, inconsiderate, manipulative and
almost murderous type of person. Even if it were true that he is such a
person, it is extremely inappropriate for you, as My beloved agents, to
harbor such thoughts and feelings. They should never, ever even enter
your mind. To label someone with such traits, signifies that you are
under the influence of the negative state. By making such assumptions
about anyone, regardless if it is true or not, you are instantly exposing
yourself to the negative state, becoming a well-pointed target. The
consequences of that could be undesirable.
Just tell Me frankly, what do you really know about President Clinton,
about his intention, motivation, character, internal disposition, his
innermost thoughts, desires, wishes, feelings, emotions and will? In other
words, what do you really know about his unique personality? What is
the driving force behind his behavior and lifestyle? Is your knowledge
absolute in this respect? Can you and do you know him as I do? Of course
not. So, instead of naming him names, as the true agents of My positive
state, you should be more benevolent, tolerant, understanding and
utterly non-judgmental. Do you remember from the Gospels what I said
to My disciple Peter when he asked Me how many times he should
forgive his neighbor or his brother in the human sense if he or she had
done something wrong against him and if he then tells him that he is
sorry for what he did? And Peter asks whether it should be seven times a
day? What did I answer? “I am telling you, Peter, not seven times but
seventy seven times by seven times if he/she turns to you and asks you
for forgiveness.” In other words, there are no limitations to how many
times you are to forgive and show mercy to anyone, if that one asks for it.
In some ways, your typical human attitude brings to your memory the
story of prophet Jonah and the great fish (some people think it was a
whale). In that story, I asked Jonah to go to the great city of Nineveh and
cry out against it because of its inhabitants’ great wickedness and
murderous drives and similar atrocities for which they were about to be
destroyed. So, instead of going to that city and warning them about the
impending doom, Jonah runs away from Me because he knows very well
that, if the inhabitants of that city repent, show remorse and ask for
forgiveness, I will not permit the planned destruction. But how does he
behave when it really does not happen as he predicted? He becomes very
angry with Me for not going along as planned and sits outside the city
waiting in his zeal for destruction to take place. He wanted judgement!
He could not tolerate the concept of My being absolutely merciful and
forgiving. He could not accept the fact that if people cry to Me for mercy
and forgiveness, that I would never permit any bad consequences to take
place. Again, this is the way I am, this is the way My Absolute Nature
absolutely is. And would you like to see President Clinton be punished
and removed from office after he showed his remorse and asked for
forgiveness?
How would it feel for you personally if something about you came out
that would be very embarrassing and shameful for you? Just imagine, if
you can, how would it feel if your escapades were to come to the attention
of the entire population of planet Zero and you would have to continue
your work under those kinds of conditions? Do you have any idea what
he is going through in this respect? And you want more punishment,
more retaliation and more judgment to satisfy your own typical human
idea of how much and to what extent punishment should be imposed on
him.
So, the issue with President Clinton is not President Clinton and what
type of person he is — no one should be allowed to judge that — but what
he represents, what his position and placement signifies and what he
agreed to exhibit and manifest from the spiritual standpoint. The issue
here is the positioning of the negative state for the final encounter
between the pseudo-creators and the renegades and how the situation
with President Clinton and his assignment, role and especially his sexual
escapades, are being used or utilized in this process. Look at it from the
standpoint of the outcome and not in the behavioral manner.
But there is another important point to this issue. It relates to you, My
agents, and your positioning in the process of the currently occurring
shift — a shift that is very unusual, mysterious, profoundly different and
decisive, transcending anything that has been experienced up to this
point. It is time that you fully assumed your role in this process by
becoming a reflection, in a relative condition, of My absolute attitude,
behavior and mode of relating to all in the negative state and planet
Zero. As you know, what this planet, its humans and the agents of the
negative state need, is not condemnation, judgmental attitude, rejection,
aversion, or any other similar negative and adverse patterns in your
behavior and attitude — after all, in the negative state and on your
planet there is more than enough of that without your need to be a
contributing factor in this respect — but what they need is your love,
understanding, mercy, forgiveness, compassion, empathy, patience and
acceptance. For if you are not able to exhibit these types of positive
aspects in your personalities and behavior, and if you continue to act and
react from the aspects of your human nature, what is the difference
between you and the agents of the negative state and humans proper?
What kind of examples and what kind of answers are you providing the
pseudo-creators and all others in the negative state and on planet Zero?
Your assignment now is to fully manifest all aspects of My Absolute
Nature in your relative condition, so that an important example is set for
all others who are not in the same position as you. Setting such an
example is an integral part of the plan for the ultimate elimination of the
negative state and salvation of all. That example will be utilized to build
a foundation for all of them, on which, they will be able to recognize and
accept the fact that it is possible to be that way, and how to achieve being
that way. For that reason, the most important factor for you in this
respect is the shift from looking at everything that is going on
around you from the typical human standpoint, to looking at and
assessing everything from My standpoint. It is time for you to do
that. This is very important, more important than you can imagine.
Unless you are willing and able to do so by your own free will and choice
— and I know you are — and unless you disregard your human position
and attitude and, instead, fully trigger the positive aspects of your
nature that stem from Me, you will side with the negative state. And I
know you don’t want to do that. So, your position, attitude, view and
opinion, as well as your behavior, are being carefully observed both by all
in the positive state as well as by the pseudo-creators, their minions and
renegades in the negative state and planet Zero.
In a sense, the situation occurring in your country with President
Clinton is an important test for you and all agents of the negative state,
to see which way you decide to go — by the typical human way, in which
case their conclusion would be that you are no different than any other
humans or creatures of the negative state — or by My way, the way of
My positive state, in which case they can learn the valuable lessons that
it is possible to be in the human skin, so-to-speak, and yet to act, behave
and relate the way My true agents do. Such lessons and examples
provide tremendous incentives and hope for them that they will also be
able, when the time is right, to become, based on your experiences and
examples, agents of the positive state, leading ultimately to the
elimination of the negative state in its entirety. And this is what it is all
about.
Peter: I would like to ask You for Your mercy and forgiveness for any
tendencies in me for harboring any negative feelings, thoughts, desires or
wishes as related to the discussed topic or to anyone or anything else.
The Lord Jesus Christ: And I gladly forgive you, Peter. But also don’t
forget to forgive yourself.
Peter: Because we are talking here about what happened last night and
what transpired in the Fifth dialog, I would like to get some clarification
from You about, why it is that in the process of sexual intercourse, in
order for it to be the source of acquiring proper and correct knowledge, it
is required for the physical penetration of a penis into a vagina to take
place? What is the significance of this requirement?
The Lord Jesus Christ: Well, Peter, it is very simple. Look at the
spiritual correspondence of the act itself. What happens when sexual
partners engage in sex other than the merging type; when a male’s penis
enters a female’s vagina? The physical touching either by hands or by
mouth, or by any other external tools, comes from externals to externals.
It is a foreplay, a stimulation, a preparation for the real thing, so-to-
speak. Because it is, after all, from externals to externals, it doesn’t
trigger a response on the spiritual level that would release the expected
and desirable experience and knowledge. Don’t forget for a second that
all true knowledge comes and stems only from within, from My presence
in it, and from that, also in the without and everything in-between.
On the other hand, when the merging occurs, when the penis goes into
the vagina and the vagina receives the penis, the state of internals occurs
because of the corresponding factor — being deep inside in one’s sexual
partner. This correspondence enables the spiritual state of within to
enter the without and release to it, or convey to it, the necessary
information and knowledge related to the birth of an idea which is ready
to be manifested in the external world. Of course, in your human type of
life, this interaction happens without your conscious awareness.
This is the reason why external sexual play, oral sex and similar external
stimulation cannot be considered true sexual intercourse by the
definition of the spiritual understanding of what sexual intercourse is all
about.
Peter: Thank You very much for this explanation.
The Lord Jesus Christ: You are welcome. At this point I would
recommend to stop the question and answer sessions and start printing
out the corrected material that Dan E-mailed to you. Let the editing of
these six Dialogs be completed first and mailed out to the selected
individuals before proceeding with the Seventh Dialog. Have a nice day.
Source: DIALOGUES WITH THE LORD JESUS CHRIST PART 1.
