SEVENTY NINTH DIALOGUE

May 6, 1999

Peter: We had some preliminary reactions to the content of the Seventy Seventh Dialog — as expected. And they are coming only from the people who have E-mail. The others, who receive our Dialogs by regular mail, have not received this particular Dialog yet (I sent it out yesterday). I wonder what kind of reactions we will be getting from them. Anyway, we have a request from three different people for some further elaboration and explanation about the issues touched upon in that Dialog. One is from the East Coast, one from the West Coast and one from the Czech Republic. The Czech Republic request is not related to the content of the Seventy Seventh Dialog. However, before going into formulating their questions, I would like to ask if You have anything to convey to us this morning.

The Lord Jesus Christ: Well, Peter, the reactions that are coming and will be coming to the content of the mentioned Dialog are understandable due to the fact that it emphasizes heavily that everyone has a personal responsibility to determine what kinds of questions to ask and whether such questions really have multiversal significance. This is not an easy task. Don’t forget that, basically, the nature of human life was fabricated in such a manner that it would inherently and naturally incline toward expecting everything to come from or to be suggested by someone else; that is to say, from the outside and not from their own inside. This setup causes some humans almost a panic attack if they have to come up with their own answers, from their own within and by their own effort, taking responsibility for the outcome of such an effort. It is much easier for humans to function in their lives if they are told what to do and how to do it or if they receive the answers to their questions from someone else, who is in a position of authority to do so, instead of being forced to seek such answers in their own within. As you know, such tendencies are typical of the entire nature of the negative state. So, don’t be surprised if more questions come our way regarding this issue. On the other hand, you did have some positive feedback about the content of that Dialog.

One comment needs to be made regarding something which was indicated on the last page of the Seventy Sixth Dialog. It relates to the issue of the right side and of the left side and being right about something and being left out of something. Some concerns were expressed by Dan about the language limitations. As you know, the English language was chosen in this century for transmission of The New Revelation of The Lord Jesus Christ. The structure of this particular language allows conveying some very important spiritual ideas, which are impossible to express in any other language. Because of that, it is not by coincidence that the English language was established as a common international language by which and through which people of various other nations and languages communicate with each other. From this fact, you can see why this particular language was chosen for transmission of My New Revelation. Of course, there are some other important spiritual reasons for this choice but for crucial security reasons they cannot be revealed.

The problem with some English expressions is that no equivalents of them exist in some other languages. So, anyone who is translating My New Revelation is facing a formidable task of finding the most appropriate words that could correctly approximate the English expressions. However, in some instances, such as for example, in the above mentioned expressions (emphasized in bold font), it is impossible to find such equivalents. It is being suggested therefore, to any prospective translator of My New Revelation, and especially of these Dialogs, to use descriptive forms by which they can explain what those expressions in English really mean.

I would like to make one more brief comment before going into your questions, Peter. It relates to a certain saying that humans have and which needs to be put into a proper perspective. This saying goes something like this, “The road to Hell is paved with good intentions.” If you look carefully on the meaning of this expression, you will notice how skewed it is. This saying was formulated by the forces of the negative state and subsequently, implanted into humans’ minds. The hidden purpose of it was to prevent humans from having any good intentions. After all, if good intentions lead to the Hells, then, in that case, why even try to have them? It is better to stay passive and inactive without any motivating impulses to do anything good or positive because, no matter what, you will still end up in one of the Hells.

This is how humans are deceived into thinking in this manner about good intentions. From the true spiritual standpoint, as was indicated in My New Revelation on several occasions, one’s actions and deeds are not judged by their outcomes but by the initial intentions with which they were executed or undertaken. If one’s intentions were good and positive, in no way can they lead one into the Hells. At the same time, if one’s intentions were really good and positive in all their aspects, both internally and externally in one’s mind, they are incapable of leading to negative outcomes and results. Good and positive intentions lead either to good and positive outcomes or to neutral ones — in that case, for some important spiritual reasons, it was not timely or appropriate to undertake such actions. However, they can never lead to negative, or even evil outcomes. Therefore, logically speaking, good and positive intentions can never place one into the Hells or pave the way into the Hells. If there is such a negative outcome, it only means that the intentions were only seemingly good, judging from the position of the externals, but internally they were not such. In that case, you may get an impression, based on your external observation and conclusions, that ‘good and positive’ intentions lead to the Hells. And this is all that I wanted to contribute this morning. You may go ahead, Peter, and ask the mentioned questions.

Peter: Let me begin with one request for clarification which has some relevance to what we were talking about in the Seventy Seventh Dialog, as recorded on its last page. It relates to the issue of sexuality but from an entirely different perspective. Interestingly enough, this issue has never been brought up, in any books of Your New Revelation, up to this point. It relates to the concept and meaning of incest. This is a sexual relationship that happens between parents and their children, or between siblings or between close relatives. As You know so well, such sexual practices, from a historical perspective, were strictly prohibited throughout the entire history of humankind. Is it timely to clarify this issue?

The Lord Jesus Christ: Yes, Peter, it is very timely. It has a direct relevance to the nature of the ongoing shift and to the illustration and demonstration of the final, most ugly face of the true nature of the negative state. You can also apply to the issue of incest everything that was said about homosexuality and bisexuality in the Seventy Seventh Dialog. However, there is much more to this issue than only that which was indicated to you in that Dialog. Yes, incest is the ultimate and most external — to the farthest possible extreme — expression of the inappropriate understanding, conceptualization and practice of sexuality in human life. Once again, to repeat, if any relationship at all is founded on and derived from sexual energies, and if, in the human understanding of sexuality, it is limited only to sexual intercourse, lovemaking and coitus of two individuals, then how do I relate to anyone in my family and among relatives? By and through having sex with them. By such practices, this factor illustrates and demonstrates the fact about what happens if such misconception, misinterpretation and misunderstanding of the concept of sexuality is established and if it is reduced to only literal, physical sexual intercourse.

However, besides all of that, incest is a tool of the perpetrator used as a means through which and by which the victim is being manipulated, controlled and shown who is in power and authority. This tendency comes from the efforts of the negative state to divide people into passive, submissive and obedient creatures on one hand, and on the other hand, into being dominant, controlling, authoritative and possessive. In this case, it is assumed that my children or my relatives or family members are my possessions and I can do with them whatever I want. And because sexuality is one of the most potent tools to establish and consummate such division, and based on it, interrelationships, it is sexuality which is used for this purpose.

But there is more to this issue than what has so far been indicated about it. It strictly relates to the very nature of the negative state itself. As you know, life of the negative state is based on masses, groups, societies and similar entities. The purpose for their establishment was to suppress any notion of uniqueness, personalization and individualization of any members of the negative state and humans. This setup is well illustrated in the policies and philosophies of the communist countries where the individual is nothing and masses are everything, and where a small group of people or even one individual establishes control and power over them and uses, manipulates and controls them in any way he/she wants. Because of this setup, you can easily, and without any guilt or remorse, sacrifice any individual to the needs of the group or masses. The family structure on planet Zero is founded on the same premise. And because, once again, sexuality is the best possible tool by which and through which you can show who is in control, it is sexuality that is being used for this purpose.

But look what happens in this process. The victim of this setup usually ends up in an inability to establish her/his true identity. The purpose of incest, as devised by the forces of the negative state and projected into human life, is to destroy, or shatter or completely block the way toward establishment of one’s unique personalized and individualized self- identity. The negative state doesn’t tolerate any such uniqueness and individualized and personalized lifestyle or self-identity. The ultimate expression of this tendency, in the form of illustration and demonstration of this fact and of the nature of the negative state, is in the practice of incest which leads to such a terrible outcome for any victim of this sexual act. This is one of the reasons why incest is so widespread throughout humanity on planet Zero.

As you know, Peter, incest has a long history on your planet. The incestual relationship is even recorded in the Christian Bible. Take for example, the case of Lot, a relative of Abraham, and his two daughters (Genesis 19:30-38). After they escaped the destruction of Sodom and Gomorrah, during which Lot’s wife lost her life by becoming a pillar of salt, they found themselves being isolated from anyone else. So, Lot’s daughters, seeing that they had no chance of having husbands, and wanting to have children, made their father drunk, and during his drunken stupor, forced him into having sex with them so that they could become pregnant and establish posterity for themselves. Although the meaning of this story from the standpoint of its spiritual correspondence has an entirely different relevance than what we are talking about here, it illustrates how sex is being utilized to accomplish one’s goal — whatever it may be. In our case, sexuality has been and will be utilized by the negative state in order to accomplish its goal as related to the destiny of humanity. In this particular connotation, its goal is to completely and totally eradicate from human life any concept of, as well as need for individuality, personalization and uniqueness of everyone’s impression, expression and manifestation.

It is the only way the negative state can win on planet Zero. As long as any, even the tiniest vestiges remain from individualities, uniquenesses and personalization, the negative state is not in full control and dominance. Why is it so? As you know, the entire nature of the positive state is founded and built on uniqueness, individualization and personalization of all its members. It is the very nature of the positive state to be so. It fully reflects, in its relative condition, My Nature which is rooted in Absolute Individuality, Uniqueness and Personalization. In this sense you can say that I Am the Absolutely Unique, Absolutely Individualized and Absolutely Personalized Absolute Individual. And because My Creation and all My sentient entities reflect and carry this Nature of Mine in their own relative condition, they are totally and completely individualized, personalized and fully unique likewise.

So, how do you go about the activation of the negative state if such is the nature of the positive state and all its inhabitants? By receding from this arrangement. You cannot very well build a totally different lifestyle if you adhere to these principles. In order to build such a deviant lifestyle, you need to destroy the functional power of these principles and introduce their opposites. Incest, in this conceptualization, is the extreme illustration and demonstration of this factor. It is this example that provides a tangible, concrete and literal manifestation of these pseudo- principles that very effectively and successfully lead to the destruction or shattering or blocking off the ability of the victim to establish her/his unique, individualized and personalized self-identity. Not having any self-identity, the individual in question can be manipulated in any way you want.

As you know, in your psychiatric diagnostic manual, these individuals are diagnosed as having borderline personality disorders. From your past clinical practice, Peter, you know very well what tremendous difficulties these cases present to any therapist who works with these individuals. These difficulties stem from the following fact: How can you work with someone who has never been able to establish any positive or even negative self-identity? If you are empty inside of you, is it possible to make any connection to that emptiness? In order to do that, you would first have to build a proper and acceptable self-identity for that individual. Otherwise, all your effort to help her/him (mostly her!) ends in total failure — as is the case in many instances of these individuals.

To illustrate even more pronouncedly these splits, some individuals abused by incest develop a dissociative identity disorder which leads toward the establishment of multiple artificial personalities within the same individual. Others become psychotic or insane, completely escaping from the awareness of the physical reality surrounding them. Again, these facts illustrate that the negative state has no firmly established unique, personalized and individualized identity and is totally and completely insane, having no notion whatsoever what the true reality of life is.

Now, here is the ultimate illustration and demonstration of the nature of the negative state, which has no individuality, no uniqueness, no personalization, no self-identity, but is empty and void of any real life. The results of incestuous relationships illustrate these facts about the negative state in its most extreme degree. This is the reason why it was permitted to flourish and why it is so widespread amongst humans. It tells you how not ever to practice your sexuality in any of its aspects.

Due to the fact that during the currently ongoing shift, the ugliest, most putrid and most despicable nature of the negative state is in the process of its manifestation by the renegades; it is at this time that one of its most cherished tools — sexuality in incest — is being brought to your attention.

Another aspect of this issue is that, as you know, in the vast majority of cases, the victim of incest is a female. This fact illustrates and demonstrates the extreme and the most negative and evil consequences of the separation, isolation and split of femininity from masculinity and masculinity from femininity. Moreover, if you put a female into a subservient position and serving a dominant male, then you can use, abuse, misuse and manipulate her in any way you want. Incest is the ultimate expression of this factor. This is how far that separation, isolation and split can go. And this is all that I wish to reveal about this issue.

Peter: Thank You very much for this enlightening explanation of this issue. The next question comes from Michael Maldonado. I quote: ‘Is the purpose of asking questions of multiversal significance (even if we’ve already received, and should have received the answers from You), so that we can have You share the answers (that we already received from You personally), with the other members of Your New Revelation — Your other representatives? So, if I ask a question directly and get an answer from You from my own within, I am assuming I am still to ask for an answer through Peter so that others may benefit? Is this what it’s all about?’

The Lord Jesus Christ: Well, the answer to this question should be clearly deducible from the content of the Second Dialog. I would strongly recommend rereading that Dialog carefully in order to acquire the proper understanding of everyone’s position and role. As it was indicated in that Dialog, everyone comes from and is connected to a certain world in a certain dimension, or sometimes to several worlds and to several dimensions, from which they function and from which they receive and to which they send any information that is needed at each particular time. In this respect, they are limited to these and only to these dimensions and worlds. Because of that, other dimensions and other worlds don’t have access to the information received by them from their own sphere of functioning and communication. They have different needs and different modes of communication and reception of any information. This is the way it is at this particular time. This structure will continue to be this way until the time when the negative state and human life in its negative aspects will be no more.

In view of these facts, because of the uniqueness of each dimension and its worlds, and because of your connection only to them and to nowhere else, it is a little out of the way to talk about multiversal answers that you, in your own personalized and individualized communication with Me, have been receiving and will be receiving from Me. Whatever you get in this respect from Me, relates only to you and to the worlds to which you are connected. Peter’s role in this respect is different from all of you in the sense that he is in a position of being connected to the multiversal sphere and atmosphere of being and existence and pseudo-being and pseudo-existence, so that whatever is conveyed by Me through him is available to all dimensions and their worlds, as well as to all pseudo- dimensions and their worlds, in an all-inclusive manner. His entire life, and all his life experiences were structured in such a way so that he could be in this role. At this point in time, no one else is in that role. Even if you are getting the same answers in your own within from Me directly as through Peter, My answering through Peter still relates to all and everything, and everyone hears them, whereas the answers that you receive are heard only by those who are connected to you directly. Of course, this setup in no way indicates (and we are repeating this again and again!) that your position is less valuable, less important and less needed than Peter’s; or that Peter’s position is more valuable, more important and more needed than yours. It simply means that your position is different from Peter’s and that both positions are equally needed, equally important and equally valuable. And this is the way it is supposed to be at this time.

Whether you are to share your personal answers that you receive from Me directly, depends on the nature and content of the questions asked and the answers received. This should be established from your own within in the process of your communication with Me. Some of them may and can be shared. Some of them would be spiritually inappropriate, or even dangerous to share. Again, this factor has to be established by you alone with Me and no one else. However, bear in your mind very clearly that whatever answers I give through Peter are very timely, and need to be conveyed to and heard by everyone everywhere in other dimensions and worlds, as well as by you, My true representatives. There are certain aspects of these types of answers, the significance of which cannot be perceived or understood by your external human mind but which are perceptible and understandable by others who are not in the position of human life. These aspects of My answers are related to the way and mode Peter formulates them from Me and on My behalf. Your ways and modes in this respect are entirely different and they would not be able to convey the same needed things and meanings that Peter’s can. This is the reason why Peter’s style of expression and conveyance was chosen by Me and why he talks, speaks, relates, writes, etc. as he does. It is an integral part of his ability to be and to do so. Don’t try to imitate him or expect to have the same results from your own relationships with Me as he has. That would defy your own uniqueness and the way I manifest and express Myself through you. Please, remember this. It is important.

Peter: Thank You very much for this reminder. Michael’s next question is as follows: ‘Obviously, if we should be asking and receiving questions from our own within, has this all been a strengthening exercise to show us that we already know the answers to the questions we are asking so that we will definitely “know” that we have been on the right track? Has it been some kind of necessary reinforcement or corroboration so that we have the confidence to know that what we are feeling is really You, and that the answers that we have been personally receiving are truly coming from You?’

The Lord Jesus Christ: Although you can see it this way, as My true representatives you shouldn’t seek or interpret your answers as a confirmatory and reinforcing means to your certainty that it is I who speaks with you and that you are on the right track. The entirety of My New Revelation is founded on the irrefutable logic of its ideas and principles that don’t need any such confirmation or reinforcement. If they, nonetheless, are coming your way, you may acknowledge them with thankfulness but you don’t dwell on them, you don’t seek them out and you don’t base your acceptance of Me and My New Revelation on them. Instead, as it has been pointed out to you many, many, many times, you rely on your intuition which is telling you whether something is or is not so. It is very vital and crucial at this junction of your life to make sure that you, as My true representatives, rely solely on the factor of your intuition, on the logic and reasoning processes of your mind. All else is superfluous. That all else is incapable of providing the members of the negative state with any proper learning. The opposite only reinforces their position. We have already discussed this issue in some of the previous Dialogs.

Peter: His last question goes like this: ‘Any questions about correspondences that do not directly relate to anyone in particular, should we avoid or hesitate asking even before asking You directly from our own within?’

The Lord Jesus Christ: The issue here is the usefulness and the real need to know something that may or may not be beneficial for you or may even be spiritually dangerous for you. You may ask Me anything you want. No restrictions or limitations exist in this respect. It is solely between Me and you. However, in asking your questions, you are responsible for determining whether they should be asked also through Peter because the answers to them may have multiversal significance. Simply stated, the act of such determination should never be imposed on Peter in order for him to ask Me whether your question is or is not of such a nature. You have to put this responsibility on your own shoulders. Yes, go ahead and ask Me anything you want. It is appropriate to do so. However, only questions of true multiversal significance can be asked on the forum or platform of these Dialogs. Also, when you are asking questions that don’t relate particularly to anyone or anything, in a sense of correspondences, you are directed to explore what kind of use they can serve in order to benefit your own personal life and your spiritual progression. And this is all that can be said about this issue at this time.

Peter: Thank You very much for these answers. My last question came from Martina Kamradova of the Czech Republic. In actuality, it is not that much of a question but a request for clarification. It relates to the issues discussed in the Seventh Dialog about praying for others and the wording of Your New Prayer. That prayer begins with the words, ‘Our Lord Jesus Christ...’ It is always ‘our,’ ‘us,’ etc. How does it conform to the requirement of not praying on behalf of others?

The Lord Jesus Christ: No, it doesn’t mean praying for others. Remember please, you are surrounded by members of your spiritual family, by the members of the New Universe and by many others from your home base and from elsewhere. Whenever you are saying ‘Our Lord Jesus Christ,’ you are evoking their presence in your conscious life and you are praying with them and not for them. Can you see the difference here? Moreover, at the very end of Update 18 in the Corollaries..., it was clearly indicated to you that you may substitute, if you wish, the wording of “Our Lord Jesus Christ’ with the words ‘My Lord Jesus Christ.’ This substitution was suggested in order to bring you closer to the personalization and individualization of your own life. When you are praying in the presence with all who are with you in the state of your internals, you are evoking very important multiversal spiritual correspondences related to the final elimination of the negative state and to the building of life in the positive state in its fullness and completeness. Because of this important significance and correspondence, all present with you pray with you for the same reasons and for the reinforcement of their own resolve to serve Me for that noble purpose. Remember this.

At this point, Peter, I would recommend finishing for today. Have a pleasant afternoon.

Peter: Thank You very much for the answers to our sometimes questionable questions.

The Lord Jesus Christ: You are welcome, Peter. And I thank you all who asked all these questions. Obviously, if I chose to answer them, My answers concern everyone everywhere. Go in peace with My love and appreciation.

Source: DIALOGUES WITH THE LORD JESUS ​​CHRIST PART 1.

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