SEVENTH DIALOGUE

December 31, 1998

Peter: Before asking my own questions, I would like to ask You if You have further comments regarding anything that was conveyed to us in the Sixth Dialog or anything else.

The Lord Jesus Christ: Yes, Peter. Thank you for giving Me this opportunity to make such a comment. It relates to the issue of the retribution and punishment of humans who committed some kind of transgression from the standpoint of the human laws and criminal and/or civil justice system and also from the spiritual standpoint and how it all relates to you, as agents of My positive state. In your conversation with Dan, after he read the Sixth Dialog, you put it nicely when you told him that you guys should not worry about punishment and justice because the negative state has enough of its own people who are eager, willing and ready to punish their own. Let them take care of their own. Or, “let the dead take care of their own dead.”

So, in this respect, it is no longer your concern whether justice was or is being done to anyone who deserves it but, instead, you are to concentrate on illustrating and demonstrating the positive attributes, in your relative condition, of the life of My positive state in accordance with the character and traits of My Absolute Nature.

As you know, Peter, up to this point, you have been concentrating on observing and experiencing the events of the negative state’s manifestation on your planet and elsewhere. This was an issue of translation for the positive state. However, with this new shift, which is in the process of manifesting right now, the situation has changed drastically in this respect, you may say. Therefore, it is no longer appropriate for you to waste your energy and time on being preoccupied with the events of the negative state.The positive state, thanks to you, learned as much as it needs about the nature and life in the negative state and on planet Zero. For that reason, your assignment has changed in this respect.

In your case, the shift is toward illustrating and demonstrating the nature, character, content and life of the positive state to everyone in the negative state and on planet Zero. This illustration and demonstration happens by the manner in which you behave, think, feel and relate to the agents of the negative state and by your attitude toward such issues as, for example, punishment and retribution — as related to those who, by their behavior and acts, put themselves in a position for such punishment, triggering the need for retribution.

As mentioned in the Sixth Dialog, in this respect, you are to reflect, in your relative condition, My Absolute behavior, attitude and stance that I have in cases like that. As you know, they are founded on My Absolute Unconditional Mercy and Forgiveness, rooted in My Absolute Unconditional Divine Love and Divine Wisdom. As long as no one asks Me to apply My Unconditional Mercy and Forgiveness in their lives, I don’t interfere with the just punishment and retribution in those cases when it is deserved, due to their adverse, negative and evil behavior and action. However, in the moment someone asks for them from the bottom of their heart, I make them immediately available to such a person, giving him/her another chance.

As you know, Peter, punishment and retribution exist only in the negative state and on your planet. They don’t exist in the positive state. To assume that such negative attributes and traits exist in the positive state, means to also assume that something bad, negative and evil takes place amongst its inhabitants. On the other hand, in the negative state, only everything bad, negative and evil is produced and manifested. Inherent in such conditions is the need for punishment and retribution — by whatever means or mode. By the logic of this setup, punishment and retribution are negative and bad in themselves. This is the reason why they cannot exist or even be conceived of in the positive state. And because you are agents of the positive state, and because, as of now, you have agreed to manifest all attributes of the positive state in your lives, behaviors, actions and relationships; by virtue of this fact and indisputable logic, it would be very inappropriate for you to dwell on the issues of anyone’s punishment and retribution. The situation at the present time is such that any dwelling on them would put you in a bright spot, and you would stick out like a sore thumb; in which case you would instantaneously become a target for the agents of the negative state. So, to repeat again, “let the dead take care of their own dead.” They are very proficient and effective at doing so in this respect.

So, as far as you are concerned, all of you who read these words are always to concentrate on Me and on the positive aspects of the positive state. And whenever any negative, punitive, punishing and typically negative feelings enter your mind — and, as long as you are in the human skin, such thoughts, feelings, emotions, or whatever, inevitably enter you — then you, as Dan in New York so nicely put it in his conversation with you, immediately reject them from your mind and turn all your attention onto Me and your assignment on this planet as representatives of the positive state.

Peter: This is very clear to me and I clearly see the beautiful rationale and logic in this. Thank You for this explanation.

The Lord Jesus Christ: You are welcome, Peter. I would like to make a brief comment regarding Dan’s technical question, which he asked you last night. It relates to the requirement of the English customary expression whenever two or more people talk to each other. As you know, it is a matter of common courtesy to put the one you talk to in the first place and yourself in the second. Thus, it is proper to say “you and I or me” instead of “I or me and you.” However, in your recording of our Dialogs, you, Peter, reversed it and you always put ‘I’ or ‘Me,’ as related to Me only, in the first place and yourself in the second.

As you know, you always hear Me correctly in this respect and it always comes out as “you and Me” — because of My respect for you and as a reflection of My Absolute Humbleness, Modesty and Humility. But, from the position of your own humbleness, modesty and humility, you don’t feel right putting yourself in the first place. Due to the fact that you are the recorder, and because it is your personal choice to put Me in the first place, it is appropriate to continue in the same mode of recording. I hope Dan will accept this as a matter of your own courtesy, as related to Me; and I thank you for your attitude in this respect.

Peter: It just feels right for me to record it that way. Now, I have the following question. As You know, for some time now, our people have been asking me about the issue of prayer. The question is: “How appropriate is it for us, the agents of the positive state, to pray for other people and their health, situation and well-being in general?”

The Lord Jesus Christ: As you know, Peter, from your own past Baptist experience, as well as from the knowledge of the requirements of all other religious systems, the emphasis is always on some form of prayer. They believe that the more you pray, the more is accomplished in this world, in their personal lives and the more I hear them.

With the present issue of personalizing and individualizing one’s personal life, as well as personal accountability and responsibility for one’s life and choices, such prayers are utterly useless and have no meaning whatsoever. It is a waste of your time.

At the same time, it can be considered spiritual arrogance on the praying person’s part to believe that by his/her intervention on behalf of someone else, that this one will either change or get better — whatever the case may be. This spiritual arrogance goes even further in that the praying person grossly interferes with the freedom of choice, the agreement and choice that the respective individual made, either before coming to this planet or in the process of his/her life on it. From this understanding of the current situation, it is clear that such prayers are of a negative nature.

Peter: What about Your statement in the Gospel According to Luke (Chapter 18:1) that men always ought to pray and not lose heart?

The Lord Jesus Christ: Two reasons exist for that statement: One, it related to praying primarily on one’s behalf and not on behalf of someone else. And two, the spiritual situation and climate of that time was such that, as you know, Peter, the pseudo-creators were in full control of this planet and the entire Zone of Displacement. They ruled them by the principles of necessity and no freedom of choice. Remember, please, and this is a reminder, My First Coming was, among many other things, for the purpose of giving humans the freedom of choice and free will, which they didn’t have then.

Because of that, at the time, it was appropriate to pray to Me on behalf of others because they didn’t know what they were doing. They were convinced that their behavior and actions were appropriate and godly. Not knowing that, it was appropriate for someone else who was enlightened about that situation, to pray that way. This is also the reason that while I was hanging on the cross, I prayed to My Father from My human aspects, that is, to My Absolute Divine aspect which was separated from Me during that time, to forgive those who crucified Me because they didn’t know what they were doing.

But after My victory in the Hells, and after the lockup of the pseudo- creators, a new situation was established for humans, which put them in the position of free will and choice. This freed them from doing and choosing things by sole necessity and no freedom of choice. Once this situation was established, it was no longer necessary to pray for others because they became responsible and accountable for their own choices and their lives in general.

Unfortunately, after Paul came on the scene, and after other Apostles took over following My physical departure from your planet, they continued to emphasize the need for such prayers. And not only that, but, for example, Paul insisted that members of the church should pray continuously on each other’s behalf.

Peter: But what about if someone requests us to pray for them?

The Lord Jesus Christ: Well, look at it this way, Peter: If someone is fully, totally and completely responsible and accountable for his/her own life, isn’t it true that by such a request they shun or avoid manifesting their own responsibility and accountability?

However, there is more to it than that. If you ask someone to pray for you, it signals the negative state the fact that you have become impotent and unable to take care of your own problems or whatever it is that you are asking them to pray for. In that case, you become a very-well pointed target for the negative state.

The consequence of such targeting could be that your situation might become much worse than it was before you asked to be prayed for. So, in your present situation, you should never ask anyone to pray for you. It is between Me and you; and not anyone else.

Peter: What about praying for ourselves as individuals before You?

The Lord Jesus Christ: Now, that’s an entirely different story. Due to the fact that you are responsible and accountable for your own life and for everything that is happening in it, it is proper, correct and right to address Me for helping you to cope with everything that is going on in it and for the effective and competent fulfillment of your mission.

There are at least two considerations in this respect. One is that because you are not absolute and perfect, and limited in the scope and power of your knowledge and understanding of anything on your own, you can easily make an inappropriate choice or decision, undermining your effort in carrying out your mission effectively.

Any time such things happen, you become a target for the negative state. Only from the State of Absolute Knowledge and Perfection that I have, can you accomplish anything. Thus, your request for Me to give you help and assistance in all your endeavors, makes it possible for you to accomplish anything at all. This is the reason why I said that men always ought to pray and not lose heart and why some Apostles emphasized the need for praying continuously.

Two, because of the requirement to individualize and personalize your life and the need to establish a relationship with Me, which is very important for your life, founded on such an individualized and personalized approach, the ability to accomplish this necessary condition can be made only from the Absolute Knowledge of who you are and from which idea of the element in My Nature you originated. But because you are put into a condition of free will and choice, such knowledge and understanding cannot be imparted upon you without a specific request for Me to provide you with it.

Otherwise, it would be by imposition. Any knowledge acquired by imposition cannot take hold within you, where it counts, and therefore, you would tend to disregard it. In that case, you would instantaneously become a target for the negative state. Any factor of imposition opens the doors to the negative state. The process of a request by free will and choice is the process of prayer. By praying to Me for that purpose and in such a manner, you are enabled to function and to carry on with your mission.

Peter: Do any specific requirements exist for praying to You?

The Lord Jesus Christ: With the exception that it should come from the purity of your heart, with positive and good intent, and by your own free will and choice, none whatsoever. The method, mode and practice of how you do it, depends entirely on you. Again, it is spiritually very dangerous to prescribe or impose on anyone how, how often or in what manner they should communicate with Me. After all, what is a prayer all about? It is a means of communicating with Me and I with you. It is between Me and you. Because of that, your mode of communicating with Me is also between Me and you; and no one else’s whatsoever. And I can assure you that I will inspire you through your own intuition in the manner and mode you should communicate with Me.

All other modes and methods would become very uncomfortable for you. (Just for clarification: Communicating with Me means prayer on your part; and vice versa: Praying to Me means to communicate with Me.)

But there is another point to the need to pray in your own individualized and personalized manner. As mentioned many times before, because of your relative condition to My Absolute State, you cannot be positive, good or wise in, by, of and from yourself. Unless you acknowledge this, you are in danger of considering yourself to be that way without My making you so. Only from the One Who is Absolutely Positive, Good and Wise in, by, of and from Himself/Herself, can anyone, who is not in such a state, become that way. The moment you fail to acknowledge that, you become a target for the negative state.

Remember please, the negative state was activated by the pseudo- creators’ assumption that they could and may be that way in, by, of and from themselves. And you can clearly see the horrendous, negative and evil consequences of that assumption in the entire history of planet Zero and the Zone of Displacement. So, by the process of your individualized and personalized prayer, by acknowledging this to be an indisputable fact, you avoid all such consequences for your own life.

The issue of the various forms of prayer was properly explained in Chapter 27 of The New Revelation of The Lord Jesus Christ. It is not necessary to repeat it here. However, it would be a good idea to talk about what kind of request should be addressed in the process of your prayer or communication with Me. Because you are not perfect, as well as not absolute, it is advisable to concentrate on becoming as and like Me in your relative condition.

Such a desire can be accomplished by focusing during your state of informal and formal inwardness — by whatever mode or method you do it in your own personalized and individualized way — requesting Me to help you every day to be exactly as I would like to you be — for your own sake; to experience in your everyday life exactly whatever I would like you to experience — for your own sake; to do every day exactly whatever I would like you to do — for your own sake; to behave, act and relate every day as I would like you to — for your own sake; to be involved only in those types of situations as I would like you to be — for your own sake; to say, write, convey, share and express only whatever I would like you to — for your own sake; to think, feel, will, emote, choose and desire only whatever I would like you to — for your own sake; to perform your duties, obligations, work, job, profession, assignment, mission, destiny and the reason you are on this planet in this particular human life, exactly as I would like you to — dutifully, responsibly, accountably, lovingly, wisely, successfully — for your own sake; to sleep, dream, have fun, play and enjoy yourself, and everything else in your daily life, exactly the way I would like you to — for your own sake; and to do and experience all that and be that way in the manner and way which is proper, correct, right and godly, in accordance with My will — for your own sake; and only from Me, by Me, of Me, through Me and for Me; in unity and oneness with all members of your spiritual family, all members of the New Universe and all agents of the positive state situated everywhere; and with great joy, delight, pleasure, contentment, satisfaction, love, wisdom and happiness; to My satisfaction, to the satisfaction of all and to your own satisfaction with the attitude that it is an honor and privilege to be an agent of the positive state in My services — for your own sake and for everyone else’s sake. And to request all that by your own free will and choice, for the sake of principle, because it is the right thing to request and to be that way. Of course, in your request, you can add anything else you want. And this is what true prayer is all about. Anything else, any of those public prayers, group prayers, demanding prayers, prayers for others, Rosary prayers and prayers for this planet, so venerated and required in the churches, are useless, futile, ineffective and leading nowhere. They can even be spiritually dangerous due to the factor of interference with My Divine Providence and the free choices that humankind is in the process of making as a whole.

Another aspect of this danger relates to the sophisticated renegades and other ‘prominent’ members of the negative state and the Zone of Displacement who may and can respond to those kinds of prayers and set up a condition for their partial fulfillment, contrary to My Grand Plan of Salvation of all. To tell you the truth, they love those kinds of prayers, and they do everything in their power to occasionally answer them so that they can interfere with My Divine Plans, in accordance with My Divine Providence in this respect. Does this answer your question, Peter?

Peter: Yes. And let me tell You something, You have no idea... excuse me please, You do have the absolute idea of how content, satisfied and happy I am to serve You and do Your will. It is such a delight and pleasure. It is so inspiring and uplifting, like nothing else I have ever experienced in my life. Thank You very much for this opportunity to serve You.

The Lord Jesus Christ: Yes, Peter, I do have an idea in the absolute sense. But there is another point to these feelings. It is a very important illustration and demonstration to all in the negative state that only in service to Me and in doing My will one can find true happiness, joy, delight, satisfaction, contentment and fulfillment; and only in that can one be productive, constructive, creative, inventive and innovative; and have all other felicities inherent in My Absolute Nature and in the nature of My positive state. There is no other source of all of these felicities — as the life of the negative state has been illustrating so vividly throughout all of its long history.

Peter: Thank You very much for this dialog. I will present my next question to You in our next dialog, if I may.

The Lord Jesus Christ: Of course, Peter, you always may. Have a very nice day.

Source: DIALOGUES WITH THE LORD JESUS ​​CHRIST PART 1.

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