EIGHTIETH DIALOGUE

May 10, 1999

Peter: This morning we do have some questions to ask. However, before asking them, I would like to offer You this time to talk first — as always.

The Lord Jesus Christ: Thank you, Peter, for your kind offer. Although I do have something on My mind which I would like to share with you, at this time, I would prefer to talk last, in a form of concluding remarks. Certain things need to be conveyed, the nature of which requires expressing them at the end of this Dialog. So, because of that, please, go right ahead, and ask your questions.

Peter: The first question is asked by Dr. Beth Ann Voien. Let me quote her question verbatim: ‘We are told that the pseudo-creators “saw” something different about the way the agents of the positive state, who were readers of the New Revelation, were living and being on this planet. My question is: “What did they ‘see’?” Clearly, most, if not all, of ‘us’ have very typical human foibles, shortcomings, etc. Did they see our ‘within,’ our intentions, efforts, beliefs related to the Lord Jesus Christ and/or possible connection of our lives to other dimensions, or...?”’

The Lord Jesus Christ: Well, in some ways Beth Ann answered her own question. Yes, it is all that and more. That ‘more’ is in her ending word ‘or...’. As you remember from Update 15 in the Corollaries..., it was indicated to you that, in comparison with other humans, by the grace of The Lord Jesus Christ, you were peripherally rewired in a somewhat different way. Here is the emphasis on the word ‘peripherally.’ Why? Any other type of rewiring would make you much too non-human. In that case, it would be impossible for you to accomplish your mission of being translators about the nature of the typical human life and life in the negative state in general. Also, under those conditions, it would be difficult for you to survive. In some ways, you can say that, if you were more than peripherally rewired, you probably would be assassinated. Other humans, and agents of the negative state on planet Zero, could not stand your being too much different or not like them at all. In that case, your mission from Me would be successfully thwarted by them.

On the other hand, it was also extremely important to place into you something that other humans and agents of the negative state didn’t have in order to maintain your direct, albeit unconscious, connection with the positive state in general, and Me specifically. Otherwise, you would simply be like other humans, without any ability to distinguish between what is spiritually proper and right and what is not. Either way you would fail in your mission. And this brings us to the answer of Beth Ann’s question. Your peripheral rewiring consists of a special ability, implanted directly by Me, to recognize, discern, comprehend, apprehend, sense, intuit and to accept the Truth about Me, My Spiritual Principles, spirituality in general, the truthfulness and beauty of My New Revelation and the true reality of the positive state. This particular ability, which the vast majority of humans are presently lacking, puts you in a position indicated by Me to My disciples during My life on planet Zero, as recorded in Luke 8:10, and I quote again: ‘To you it has been given to know the mysteries of the kingdom of God, but to the rest it is given in parables, that “Seeing they may not see, and hearing they may not understand.’” We have already extensively discussed the issue of why this was the case in the Seventy Eighth Dialog. No need exists to repeat it here. Please, if you wish, you may reread that Dialog. So, basically you have been in the same position while living on planet Zero as My disciples at that time. They were also peripherally rewired in order to be able to understand and to accept Me and My Word.

At that time, as you know, the pseudo-creators were in full control of the Zone of Displacement. They concentrated on their effort to stay in that position. They realized the danger of My incarnation on planet Zero, although, later on, during the process of My dying on the cross, they were not one hundred percent sure if I was Who I really was. However, initially, they did suspect that I was the Holy One. This is obvious from the cries of demons and the so-called unclean spirits during My exorcising them from humans. During that time, they usually cried out, ‘We know Who You are, the Holy One, Son of the Highest. Did You come to torture us?’ Because of that initial knowledge, all efforts of the pseudo- creators were directed to undermine My mission. It didn’t give them any time to examine the rewiring of My disciples. Of course, the peripheral rewiring of My disciples differs substantially from your own. Their position was entirely different. Don’t forget that at that time I was still separated from My Essence — the Father, and because of that I was perceived by My disciples as being a different Person from My Father- Essence. Also, My New Nature didn’t exist at that time. So, their rewiring was directed toward their ability to accept Me more like the only begotten Son of God rather than the Only One Indivisible God. Knowing this, the pseudo-creators also assumed that this was the case, and therefore, from that position, the rewiring of My disciples didn’t have any impact on them because they were in exactly the same position as far as their perception and understanding of Who I really was. Neither the pseudo-creators nor My disciples nor anyone anywhere had any notion that My Nature will fundamentally change and that I will acquire a totally New Nature that had not been in being and existence up to that point, and that this New Nature would fundamentally change everything in the entire being and existence and pseudo-being and pseudo-existence as well as in everyone else’s life and their own natures.

However, your peripheral rewiring was structured in such a way as to enable you to perceive, to recognize, to understand and to accept everything related to My New Nature and everything contained in My New Revelation. The pseudo-creators, the way they fabricated the human mind or human nature, assumed that not one typical human being, as his/her mind and disposition were made by them, would ever be able to have insight or understanding, much less acceptance, of anything of these facts. As you know, left to its own devices, the human mind and its perceptive and comprehensive abilities, in its essence and substance, the way it was purposefully fabricated by the original pseudo-creators, is unable to properly grasp the true spiritual reality and anything related to My True Nature. It can do so only in a distorted and falsified manner. This was a necessary arrangement in the scheme of the activation of the negative state and fabrication of humans in order to put the negative state in a dominant position. Otherwise, the negative state would have no chance to take hold in anyone’s life. Just look at those numerous religions and their respective sects or on all those scientific minions of the negative state and atheists. In comparison with that which is contained in The New Revelation, none of them have come even close to the reality of the positive state and My True Nature. Whatever information they have or contain, is either totally false or totally distorted. Sure, in a distorted aspect of their conceptualization of these facts, you can remotely recognize some obscure features of the true spiritual reality in the same way as in a caricatured painting of any person, you are able to recognize his or her original features. However, in essence, no one pays attention to those features but only to the overall distortions. This is exactly the way the human mind, in its original setup, was fabricated by the pseudo-creators.

Under those conditions, with such a genetic and other type of fabrication, the pseudo-creators assumed that no one who contains within him/her such a mind could ever come even close enough to anything truthful and genuine as related to My New Nature, to My New Revelation and to My positive state. So, when they came back, after their release, suddenly they noticed a very small group of people who showed very distinctly some kind of ability which no other humans possessed — the ability to intuit, to recognize, to understand, to accept and to practice anything related to My New Nature, to My New Revelation and to My positive state.

As you remember from Update 20 in the Corollaries... it was stated there that the pseudo-creators couldn’t understand how it was possible for anyone who had a typical human mind or human wiring or human disposition, the blueprint of which they had and by which they fabricated humans, to be able to come to such important awareness and knowledge. So, being the most curious scientists of all time, as you know, they decided to postpone the destruction of humanity and instead, to concentrate on studying what made that very, very, very small group — you — so different from anyone else on planet Zero.

In the process of their studies, they discovered this special peripheral rewiring in the human psyche and, corresponding to that, a somewhat different brain function — in the sense that different areas of its brain were in an active mode as compared to other humans and the agents of the negative state. In the others, the respective areas of their brain were in a dormant and inactive mode without any ability to be awakened or stimulated.

As you remember from one of the previous Dialogs, your peripheral rewiring contains many different abilities. Not all of them were triggered in their initial function. Some of them were in the background of your mind and life and some in their foreground. Different areas of the rewiring were being triggered in accordance with the nature and function of your roles and missions that you had from Me. When you were in the position of being My agents on planet Zero, a different set of abilities were in the foreground related to that particular role. At this time, however, as you have been shifted to your new roles as My representatives, those abilities were put into the background of your mind and a different set was triggered which is in the process of enabling you to function in this new role. This new role is mostly connected to everything which is recorded in these Dialogs — as the third important source of My New Revelation. I can assure you that if you were not to have this particular rewiring, not only would you be unable to understand what this is all about — as written or recorded in the three sources of My New Revelation and all the preceding books — but you would be unable to accept any of that and you would consider all of that, in the same manner as the vast majority of humans would, — if they were to have access to My New Revelation — the results of some kind of ravings of an insane mind.

I can assure you that most humans, if they were to read the books of My New Revelation, would flatly and outrightly reject any of their ideas and would condemn you to eternal punishment in one of the Hells. Just look how many books were sent out since you put the TNR Foundation on the Internet, having your own Web Page there. None of those people have given you any feedback — so far. Don’t expect that too many, if at all, will do so. Unless they were to have a very similar rewiring as you do, it would be utterly impossible for them to understand and to accept the ideas of My New Revelation. The reasons for this situation have been explained throughout these Dialogs.

So, when the pseudo-creators returned, they were shocked to discover that anyone having primarily and dominantly a human type of mind, would be able to find himself/herself in a position to logically and rationally, based on his/her own deductive and inductive abilities, come to the conclusion that something like My New Revelation contains the Truth in its undistorted and non-falsified nature and condition. What you have to understand in this respect, is that the initial fabrication of a typical human mind, in its reasoning, logical, deductive and inductive abilities was genetically and otherwise structured in such a way so as to enable it to come to only distorted and falsified conclusions about any spiritual issues.

One of the most significant reasons why you were peripherally rewired differently from all others, was to give an opportunity to the pseudo- creators to recognize the fact that it is possible to come to the right conclusions about all spiritual facts and issues, and especially about My New Nature and the content of My New Revelation that reveals all these things, by the means of pure logic, rationality, reasoning processes, deductive and inductive methods and by knowing intellectually, intuitively and emotionally that something is true or is not true. The issue here was the ability to differentiate something which is true from that which is distorted or false — with the exclusion of the infamous blind faith. By altering in a certain way this ability in you, or to be more precise, by enabling you to utilize logic, reason, intellect, intuition and all their attributes in a somewhat different way and from a somewhat different perspective, it was made possible for you to see things and to discern events the way they really are and not the way they appear to be. This factor made it possible for you to know beyond a shadow of a doubt that My New Revelation, and what it contains, is My True Word and it is nothing but pure Truth without any distortions or falsifications. So, in a sense, we are using here the methods developed by the pseudo-creators for the purpose of making it impossible to see things that way.

This is the reason why they were so shocked and why they decided to experiment with you and your abilities in this respect. It was this factor that convinced the majority of the pseudo-creators that, no matter what they fabricated, or what methods of exploration they established and used, if they are used with the right and proper intentions and if they are approached from the correct perspective, they can also lead to the right conclusions about anything, including the nature of the positive state and My New Nature and about everything related to spiritual issues. This crucial discovery on their part led many of them into wanting to be converted to the positive state. In it, they found the answers to their existential question about the possibility of the existence of the Absolute Truth. You can conceptualize this fact in the following manner: No matter what you do, no matter how many methods you use to prove that nothing of this nature exists, no matter how many arguments you come up with to refute the reality of the Absolute Truth — Me, in their final and ultimate outcomes and results, they will lead you to the inevitable conclusions that the Absolute Truth is Me and that no other source of life can or may exist and that, therefore, all life is derived from My Absolute Life. And this is what it is all about.

In this sense, you agreed to be incarnated on planet Zero, and by your specific abilities to make such conclusions, based on the pseudo-creators’ methods, and stemming from your peripheral rewiring, you are helping them to convert to the positive state and thus, helping in the process of the elimination of the negative state and establishment of the fullness and completeness of life of the positive state. If I were to put in one sentence what your rewiring is all about, I would say that it is your unusual ability to instantly know whether something in the spiritual matters is true or not.

Peter: Thank You very much for this explanation. Beth Ann’s second question relates to the use of animal organ transplants into human bodies. She enclosed an article from a journal, I believe its name is “On The Issues,” in which article a very critical position is taken for the use of animal organs to transplant them into human bodies in order to preserve in them, life; as well as for genetic manipulation, in this respect, and for such a purpose in general. Would You like to make any comments about this tendency?

The Lord Jesus Christ: Whatever was revealed in this respect in one of the Dialogs, which dealt with the issue of human organ transplants, fully applies to animal organ transplants into human bodies as well. However, some additional points need to be addressed in this respect. Beth Ann correctly concluded that it is the work of the renegades and that their purpose is to shift the balance in humans back into a more animalistic, non-sentient dominance. The major purpose here is to eradicate any spiritual awareness in humans. It is not shifting humans to a non- sentient dominance as much as eradicating their spiritual awareness, no matter what it is and no matter how distorted or falsified it is. The renegades’ goal in this respect is to eliminate any type of spiritual awareness in humans and in their own creatures and sub-creatures.

However, there is much more, and much more deviousness to the renegades’ purpose than what we have just indicated above. As you remember from many statements in My New Revelation, as well as in the Christian Bible, each human being and any sentient entity in the domain of the negative state, has preserved in them, in the deepest recesses of their unconscious minds, remains or remnants of something positive and good. These remains comprise everyone’s ability to choose and to change. To repeat again, in that ability is My presence in everyone. From it everyone lives and is alive. But it contains even more than that. There is a spiritual genetic code in those remains which carries My Likeness and My Image. It was specifically included there by Me Personally in order to make it possible to recreate My Likeness and Image in everyone on planet Zero and in the entire Zone of Displacement which they lost or lacked in the process of the activation of the negative state or during the life of the negative state. This was done by Me with My future Plan of Salvation.

As you know, Peter, and all who read these words, everyone in the positive state was created in My Likeness and Image — the Absolute in the relatives in their relative condition. However, during fabrication of humans and other creatures and sub-creatures of the negative state, in order for the negative state to take hold, it was necessary to eliminate any signs of My Likeness and Image. Otherwise, everyone fabricated that way would become positive. Even the pseudo-creators, who originally had that likeness and image, had to alter their own spiritual, mental and physical genetic makeup in order to get rid of My Likeness and Image in them. But it was not possible to completely and fully destroy it. The reason for that was because it stemmed from My Absolute Condition. Whatever originated from that kind of condition, cannot be eradicated in its totality. However, it can be suppressed, repressed, hidden, isolated, separated and put in an inaccessible mode. This is what happened with the pseudo-creators. Now, in their effort of fabricating various creatures and humans, they had to use their own material. In other words, they fabricated them into their own likeness and image. And because they contained the entire spiritual, mental and physical genetic code of My Likeness and Image, it was fully transferred into all creatures and humans fabricated by them. No matter how much they tried not to include that code in their fabrications, it would not work. Any effort to do so, ended in a spontaneous abortion. For that reason, they had to allow that code to be included with the hope that because it was totally isolated and inaccessible, it wouldn’t interfere with the purpose for which they fabricated humans and other creatures. You can conceive this factor as another glitch in the pseudo-creators’ design that led to their total defeat but, at the same time, to their conversion to the positive state.

In this respect, the major purpose of the renegades to utilize animal organs in the human body and by undertaking all kinds of genetic experimentation with animals and humans, is to remove the code containing My Likeness and Image and thus, to destroy all remains of anything positive and good in all humans and creatures and sub- creatures of the negative state. Their rationale for this effort is that, if they could succeed in this goal, then any hope for conversion to the positive state of anyone in their domain would be lost forever. In that case, knowing that, by the very Essence and Substance of My Nature, I could not destroy any living and breathing sentient entity, the negative state and thus, the renegades themselves, would have to stay forever likewise. If this were to be the case, neither the positive state could ever come to its full and complete eternal fruition. As you see from this scenario, the status quo existing right now would have to be in place for good and forever. Everyone would be locked in the same place and position to eternity. This is the effort that the renegades are making in this respect.

However, there is another point to their experimentation. As you know, the human body is very fragile, weak, transient, perishable and prone to all kinds of destructive processes. Its survival rate, in comparison with other types of bodies, is extremely short. The renegades are trying to change this condition of the human physical body. They would like nothing better than to bring it on par with other types of bodies, which can live for many millennia, or millions of years or even forever. They want to prove that it is possible for this type of human body to continue in its life without any inner spiritual factors. By experimenting with animal organs and genes, the renegades are hoping to find some secret of prolonging and constantly rejuvenating all the cells of the human body and its brain in order to make it live, if not forever, then at least for several centuries. If they could accomplish that, then they would be able to prove something that even the pseudo-creators were unable to prove — that life is possible without any remains of anything good and positive in it. You see, Peter, this is the competitive nature of the renegades. They want to desperately prove to their parents — the pseudo-creators, that they are better than them. At the same time, by such a possible accomplishment, they would preserve their power and control indefinitely. After all, if they can give humans something that would make them physically live for centuries or even, maybe, forever, then they would acquire very loyal followers and slaves in the human stock.

So, as you see from this discourse, there is much more to animal organ transplants into human bodies than it seems at first glance. Also, as you are aware, the real and substantial genetic works on planet Zero, in this respect, didn’t begin until the release of the pseudo-creators and the renegades’ appearance on the scene. At that time, they were the motivating factors that gave impetus to the very fast development in this, as well as in many other areas of human science and human life.

There is only one glitch in this effort of the renegades: The code, which contains My Likeness and Image, cannot be destroyed without nullifying any possibility of life in anyone or anything. Of course, at this point in time, they don’t believe it to be so. Therefore, they are undertaking the most unusual experiments, which include, among many other things, combining animal and human genes and organs, so that they can come up with something which would refute this fundamental premise that underlies the possibility of any life at all. Don’t be surprised, therefore, if you hear about even more bizarre and unimaginable experimentation which could be undertaken by the renegades and their human counterparts-geneticists. And this is all that can be said about Beth Ann’s questions at this time.

Peter: Thank You very much for this revelation. Is there anything else You would like to talk about today?

The Lord Jesus Christ: Yes, Peter, I would. As you know, up to this point you have recorded 80 Dialogs with Me. They contain tremendously important material that needs to be studied and absorbed by all their readers. This indicates that, unless there will be any emergency type of questions that need immediate answers, the recording, or to be precise, the sending out of our Dialogs, will pause for some time.

Let Me tell you something very important: At this point in time, we have reached a junction in the process of the ongoing shift that requires from all of you, as well as for everyone else in being and existence and pseudo- being and pseudo-existence, to make some important choices, based on the knowledge of the material in these Dialogs presented to you. In order to make the proper choices, relevant to the content of these Dialogs, you need to study them and to consider all aspects of their ideas. For that purpose you need time. Also, those of you need time who are translating these Dialogs into other languages, so that all others who don’t know English can be put in a position to make their own choices. It is very important that they do so likewise. It is not an easy task to translate them as well as to study them thoroughly. In your human life, when you have so many other duties and responsibilities, you need some time to do so.

Moreover, you, Peter, need to undertake a long trip to Europe (Russia, Slovakia and the Czech Republic, and maybe even to some other countries) where My people are, who need to be with you and talk with you face to face. You will be gone for over three months. During this period of time, I would recommend to not send out any more Dialogs to anyone in order to provide them with the above mentioned opportunity for studying them and making further important choices based on their studies. Although it is quite conceivable and possible that you will be dialoging with Me and recording them on your notebook-computer, if needed and necessary, I would advise you to restrain yourself from sending them out until you come back to Santa Barbara (at the end of August, 1999). At that time, a second round of these Dialogs can and will commence — if necessary, feasible and needed. At that time it will be clear to you if they will be needed. Right now, prepare yourself for your travel, Peter.

In conclusion of this Dialog, I want you to be aware that this junction or crossroad, or whatever you want to call it, at which you find yourself at the present time, reflects a very trying time. The situation in all worlds of the negative state and on your planet, which reflects that situation, is very volatile, unstable, dangerous and, from the standpoint of your external conscious mind, unpredictable. There is no certainty anywhere and in anything. Your only certainty and safety, as well as peace, serenity and happiness, can be found in being My true representatives and in the knowledge that you are under My care and protection. Therefore, do not fear and do not be dismayed, for I am with you all and My Unconditional Love and Wisdom will accompany you everywhere you’ll go and in everything you’ll do as long as you put all your hope and faith into Me and My New Revelation. And this is all for now.

Peter: Thank You very much for all these Dialogs and for Your willingness to be so close with us as One of us.

The Lord Jesus Christ: You are welcome, Peter. I can assure you it is My greatest pleasure to be so and do so. Go in peace.

Source: DIALOGUES WITH THE LORD JESUS ​​CHRIST PART 1.

INTRODUCTION | SPIRITUALITY | CONTACTS | MAIN SITEMAP | BACK