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June 18, 1999, Moscow, Russia
Peter: Presently, I don’t have any specific questions to ask. Perhaps You
would like to talk about something which would be beneficial and useful
for us to know.
The Lord Jesus Christ: As you remember from the previous Dialog(s),
it was indicated there that the real and original purpose for which the
negative state was activated, the full and proper knowledge of this
purpose, has not been available in its full content, until recently. As a
matter of fact, it was not until Update 20, in the Corollaries…, was
recorded, that this purpose was in the process of being revealed.
Before My New Revelation was recorded, the simple and the most
common understanding of this purpose was in the assumption that
certain contingents of angels decided to rebel against Me and My Rule,
Power and Domination, and wanted to establish their own life, with its
own principles, rules, regulations and conditions which would be in total
opposition to anything established and practiced in the life of the
members of the positive state.
This story was a favorite fable, perpetuated in all kinds of Christian and
non-Christian books and dogmas. It took almost two thousand years, in
your conceptualization of time, before anything different and new was
revealed about the purpose for which the negative state was activated. It
was not until your book, Peter, Fundamentals of Human Spirituality
was written that an entirely different purpose for activation of the
negative state was revealed and described. That purpose, as it was stated
at that time, had absolutely nothing in common with the story about
rebellious angels who in their alleged foolish pride desired to overthrow
My Government and replace Me and My type of government with their
own brand of government.
However, at the time when the above mentioned book was written, Peter,
the entire and ultimate purpose for the activation of the negative state
had not been available for some important spiritual reasons. As you
know, two most significant and most important factors were missing at
that time. One was that My New Nature had not been established or its
acquirement had not been completed by that time. The second was that
the pseudo-creators were still in a lockup mode. Personally, you, Peter,
incorrectly assumed at that time that, first of all, the negative state could
not be eliminated in its entirety but instead it would be put in a
permanently dormant or inactive condition. Because of that, the
assumption also was that the pseudo-creators would remain locked up
permanently. For security and safety reasons, as all other things were
being accomplished within the realm of the positive state and as My New
Nature was coming to its final completion, in order that no interference
would occur with these important processes and events, it was necessary
to retain the impression that you, and everyone else, had at that time in
this respect.
But, have you noticed how almost each chapter in Fundamentals of
Human Spirituality was ending? Every time, as you were finishing
each chapter in that book, the statement was made that there is a
transcending understanding to everything which was being
revealed in those chapters.
Do you have any idea why such significant and important statements
were made at that time? They were made at that time so as to prepare
you for the fact that sometime in the future, when everything, as well as
everyone everywhere, will become ready, safe and open, you will receive
a higher, more appropriate and more relevant understanding of all
things related to My Nature, to the activation of the negative state, to
the story of the pseudo-creators and to everything else.
So, as years have been going by, in their process, you were getting more
and more information regarding all these issues, the information which
considerably transcended anything previously revealed and conveyed to
you. The most comprehensive and the most advanced and transcending
understanding of these facts culminated in Update 20 in the
Corollaries… . It was in that Update that for the first time you learned
the true, genuine and initial purpose for which the negative state was
permitted to be activated. As you remember, this true purpose was a
search for the Absolute Truth by means of discovery and establishment
of everything at all that is not true.
Due to the fact that at that time, or non-time, nothing existed that was
not true, philosophically speaking, it was not possible to define what
everything is that is not true. It is inconceivable to come to the definition
and understanding of something from the position which doesn’t contain
anything of that something’s nature. Thus, in our case, it is impossible to
know from the position of the positive state, which doesn’t contain
anything of that non-truth, what the Absolute Truth is not. On the other
hand, in a logical construct of any important investigation and discovery,
it is not possible to derive any knowledge about anything which is not
contained in the available knowledge and information. In this sense,
from the State of the Absolute Truth it is not possible to know what it
doesn’t have — in this case, what is not its own Absolute Truth. At the
same time, to derive any conclusions about existence of the Absolute
Truth from the Absolute Truth Itself, is circular because it has already
established its own absolute reality and consequently, it is axiomatic, not
requiring any proof from its own position.
However, there is another point to this issue. How do you go about
searching for the meaning of the Absolute Truth and what it really is if
you are relative and not absolute? In other words, how a relative being
may grasp and comprehend what the Absolute Truth is and whether
there is such a thing as Absolute Truth if, by his/her very nature, he/she
is incapable of containing the Absolute Truth in its entirety within
himself/herself? The problem with a relative being is that, by his/her very
nature, because he/she is nothing else but relative, he/she may arrive at
the state of severe doubt whether there is such a thing or state as
Absolute Truth or anything Absolute. If no Absolute exists, then, it is
conceivable that neither God, who supposedly is Absolute, exists. ‘After
all,’ such a relative being may say, ‘if I am not absolute, if I am relative
and everything around me and in me is relative also, then how can I
establish whether any such Absolute Condition or Absolute State exists
at all? Because of my relative nature, it is quite conceivable that all else
is relative and therefore, no Absolute Truth or any other Absolute
Condition or State exists as well.’
Now, this was the very original question that preceded any other
questions posed at the time before activation of the negative state. As
you see from this understanding, the issue that leads to the activation of
the negative state was the issue of the crucial and important relationship
between the Absolute — Me, and the relative — all sentient entities. By
the nature of their relativity, unable to fully grasp and comprehend the
Absolute, the sentient mind embarked on the search and exploration of
the Absolute Truth. However, being relative, it couldn’t derive anything
from the Absolute State or Condition. For that reason, the sentient mind
developed a relative methodology which would begin to gather
experiences and knowledge of the relative nature, relative to its own
relative condition. Hence, existence of something relative to the relative
only — which is the negative state — as opposed to being relative to the
Absolute. In this construct of exploration and research, the only way you
can arrive at any feasible conclusion about anything which is of the
Absolute State or Condition, is by classification of everything which is
not true or which is not absolute. This is an oblique way of discovery of
what the real truth is by the mode of the establishment of everything
which is not true.
In the process of discovery of these important factors, you establish a
mode of life which would reflect in its entire course everything which
doesn’t have any place in the Absolute State or Condition and its positive
state. This mode is a mode of concrete and tangible illustration and
demonstration of everything which is not true in the lives of those
sentient entities who had agreed to participate in this demonstration and
illustration.
Once you embark on your search for the existence of Absolute Truth and
what it is not, it is at this point that you ask yourself an important
question: What would life be like if it were to derive not from God —
Absolute Truth — Me, and from His/Her — Mine — Absolute State or
Condition, but from something or someone else who does not contain
anything at all of this Absolute Nature or who is not a derivative from
this Absolute? Now, if such life were to be possible at all, and if we could
establish such life, it might be able to give us a clear answer about the
existence of the Absolute Truth because such life would contain
everything which is not true. If that different life were to be in its nature
similar to the life of the positive state then, of course, not deriving from
the Absolute State, it would prove that the Absolute State is incidental to
any origin of life and thus, has nothing to do with anything living and
existing and therefore, for all practical purposes, it doesn’t exist.
Due to the fact that such life would not contain anything at all from the
assumed Absolute, it would have to be totally and completely separated
from anything and anyone who would be of a different life, in this case,
from the life of the positive state. This separation is of an absolute
necessity if any semblance of validity of the outcome of the experiment in
other types of life other than life of the positive state could be assured.
Lack of such separation would invalidate the results of this experiment
because any conjunction with the positive state would contaminate it
with the truth contained in the positive state. They said to themselves,
‘Paradoxically speaking, we know what the real truth is. We don’t want
to establish something which is obvious and doesn’t need any proof.
However, we don’t know what the non-truth is. And this is the real issue.
How can we live without this vital knowledge? How can we progress and
proceed with our lives if we lack this important knowledge? After all, the
Absolute Truth cannot provide us with such knowledge because it is the
Absolute Truth. By its very Nature, it doesn’t and can’t contain anything
which is not of its Absolute Nature, and thus, with that which is non-
truth. On the other hand, we, being relative, are incapable of reaching
the level of this Absolute. For that reason, in some ways, we know
nothing. On one hand, we have no knowledge what the truth is not; and
on the other hand, we are incapable of having knowledge in its fullness
and completeness about anything contained in this Absolute. Therefore,
we know absolutely nothing. For that reason, the only truth that we
know is that we know nothing. And this is our real truth.’ Do you see the
serious existential and philosophical dilemma, Peter, which the sentient
entities at that time had faced?
Peter: Yes, very clearly. I am surprised that by this time this factor had
never occurred in my mind although it should have been clear to me from
the entire content of Your New Revelation.
The Lord Jesus Christ: Well, as you know, Peter, in your relative
condition, any knowledge has to come in small progressive steps. Just
think about your overall condition at the time when you were writing
Fundamentals of Human Spirituality. How many seemingly
insurmountable difficulties did you have at that time from only those
things which were revealed in that book? To reveal all at once about all
these things at that time would most definitely either kill you or you
would reject it outrightly which would kill you spiritually. However, now
is the time to talk about it because your spiritual condition and state,
and of all readers of these Dialogs as well, is such that it allows us to
reveal the transcending understanding about all these things.
But to go back to our topic. So, if sentient entities at that time arrived at
the correct conclusion that, in the true reality of their being and
existence, they knew nothing, and if their mind was structured in such a
way that it craved, strived, thirsted and was hungry for knowledge, then
it naturally embarked on rectifying this situation. The logical steps that
needed to be taken in this respect, were the ones which were obvious. ‘If
being relative,’ they were saying, ‘we are incapable of knowing absolutely
whether there is such a thing as Absolute Truth; in that case, because of
our relativity, we may discover what is not Absolute Truth. In our
relative condition, it is our prerogative to be able to discover everything
which is of the relative nature and because of its relativity, it is not
contained in the Absolute. As we go about discovering, describing,
classifying and experiencing in a very factual, actual, experiential,
illustrative and demonstrative way and mode (and this is the only way
which is convincing) what the truth is not; once we exhaust all
possibilities and feasibilities of all aspects and factors of everything
which is not true, then and only then can we arrive at the proper
conclusion that everything which is of this non-true nature is not the
Absolute Truth. In that case, by the logic of these facts, everything which
is beyond and above or outside of this non-truth is the Absolute Truth.’
This conclusion can be derived from the fact that, if life of all sentient
entities continues even beyond exhaustion of all aspects of the proven
non-truth, as not being contained in the Absolute, and if all possibilities
and all aspects of this non-truth were discovered, classified, experienced,
illustrated and demonstrated, and yet, life continues beyond all of this,
then it is obvious that life could not be derived from anything relative
because in the moment all its factors are discovered and exhausted, due
to their relative condition, any life at all should cease to be and to exist.
For that reason, because life nevertheless continues, any life at all must
originally originate in the Absolute Condition — Me. And this is the
Absolute Truth. Now all sentient entities, thanks to this experiment,
can and may know clearly, first of all, what the Absolute Truth is not,
and secondly, that the Absolute Truth really is and exists absolutely and
that everything which is not of the negative nature, or of non-truth, is of
the Absolute and therefore, everything else, which is not of this non-true
nature, is Absolutely True. Hence, the knowledge what the Absolute
Truth is.
As you see from this somewhat difficult philosophical description, this
was the only way that the relative sentient mind could acquire this most
vital, crucial and important knowledge. Because of the relativity of their
nature, no other way for the sentient entities existed, by which they
could arrive at this knowledge, but only through the activation of the
negative state. In order to make all these events happen, the pseudo-
creators, in agreement with Me, agreed to become the ones who would
proceed with experimentation and search for the Absolute Truth by the
only possible way — through the activation and establishment of the
pseudo-life of the negative state. All experiences, all knowledge and
everything else that have been and will be acquired during the entire
process of this experiment, will be utilized in the final choice-making
decision for the life of the positive state in its complete and total form
and condition. Without this crucial knowledge, or as it is obvious from
the above, in this case, without any knowledge at all, nothing of the
fullness and completeness of this life would ever be possible to establish.
As you see from this revelation, everything in the negative state and
human life on planet Zero, no matter what it is, and no matter how
horrible and despicable it seems to you, serves only one purpose — to
ultimately make life of the positive state in its fullness and completeness
possible and feasible. Therefore, in evaluating all happenings and events
that you have been and will be experiencing on this planet, it is
important that you bear these factors in your mind. Because you are My
true representatives, you are advised to look at all these factors from My
position and thus, from the position of the positive state. The above
description provides you with a transcending understanding why the
negative state and human life were permitted to be activated and
established. No other purpose for it has ever existed or will ever exist.
Remember this!
For that reason, no matter how abominable, impossible, cruel, hateful,
intolerant, vicious, murderous, evil, deceitful, foolish, insane and
manipulative the deeds of the inhabitants of this planet and of the
negative state are, remember, please, they are all illustrating and
demonstrating what the real truth and real life are not. In that is their
service to the positive state and in that is their ultimate redemption as
well. Because of these facts, don’t waste your time and precious energies
on getting upset, angry, disgusted, disappointed, fearful, restless,
disillusioned, or whatever, about anything that you see, experience,
observe or hear. By such an adverse attitude, you would be supporting
only the negative state. Remember please, your energies are needed
somewhere else and not on feeling frustrated about and sorry for
someone who is a culprit or a victim or a perpetrator of all these negative
and evil deeds. In committing them, they are only fulfilling the purpose
for which they were fabricated in the first place.
In view of these facts, revealed in this particular Dialog, it is advisable
for you to reevaluate the way you look at all events and happenings on
this planet, in the negative state in general and in your personal and
private lives in particular. At this point in time, you need to acquire a
transcending understanding for all and everything that transpires in
your lives and in the pseudo-life on this planet and in the negative state
in general. One of the many purposes for recording these Dialogs, is to
provide for you this transcending understanding and to give you a tool
for making it possible for you to reevaluate your position and role and
consequently, to change your attitude and mode of thinking, feeling,
intending, willing, behaving, acting, relating or whatever, if there is a
need to undertake such a process. It is solely between you and Me to
determine in your own personalized and individualized manner whether
you need to make such changes and if there is such a need, by what
method it should be accomplished. The nature of the presently ongoing
shift requires from all of you that this step of reevaluation is to be
undertaken in order to prepare you for what is to come shortly. Unless
this is done as soon as you read these words, it would be very difficult for
you not only to understand and accept that which will be happening
shortly on your planet but also it would be very difficult for you to live
your life on this planet. And because of that, consequently, it would be
difficult for you, if not impossible, to fulfill your mission on this planet in
your own unique role as and in being My true representatives. Therefore,
I am encouraging you to undertake such steps as soon as possible
following the reading of these Dialogs. The reading and accepting of what
is contained in these Dialogs will make taking such steps and
reevaluating your attitude, and everything in your mind, very easy and
comfortable. By the sole factor of their reading and what they contain,
and by the acceptance of their content into your lives as My Truth, you
will accomplish this important goal very successfully.
Peter: Thank You very much for this prolific and meaningful discussion
and reminder. Is there anything else that You would like to talk about
today?
The Lord Jesus Christ: It was My pleasure, Peter. I think it is enough
for today. The content and meaning of this Dialog is somewhat difficult.
Therefore, I would recommend to close for today so that nothing more or
different would be interfering with the proper comprehension of this
Dialog. Go in peace and have fun with Lyudmila and Victor, My good and
loving people.
Source: DIALOGUES WITH THE LORD JESUS CHRIST PART 1.