To read aloud
NINETY FIRST DIALOGUE
July 22, 1999, Brno, the Czech Republic
Peter: Good morning from Brno, Moravia in the Czech Republic, my
Lord Jesus Christ and everyone present.
The Lord Jesus Christ: Good morning to you, Peter, from all of us
present.
Peter: Basically, I am checking in formally, so-to-speak, to see if there is
anything that would be timely to reveal or to discuss or elaborate upon.
However, I do have something on my mind related to the nature of the
pseudo-creators after they became the pseudo-creators and established
themselves as such. Of course, as always, before going into my own
question, I am humbly asking whether You have anything to bring to our
attention at this time.
The Lord Jesus Christ: Thank you, Peter, for your kind offer. At this
time, although I do have some issues that need to be discussed, it would
be somewhat premature to do so due to the fact that you have not yet
finished your mission in the Czech and Slovak Republics and you still
have several meetings to attend with My representatives, situated in
those two Republics, who are such either actually or potentially. Certain
things and events need to occur in order to complete and close the one
crucial and important phase of the currently ongoing shift which relates
to your visit in Europe, Peter, before anything could be revealed in this
respect. So, be patient and continue in your meetings with My people
everywhere you go. For that reason, I would now recommend that you go
ahead and ask your question.
Peter: As I was rereading some chapters in The New Revelation of
The Lord Jesus Christ, and thinking about other books of Your New
Revelation, in which the issue of the nature of the pseudo-creators was
raised, it occurred to me that, perhaps some discrepancy may exist
between how the pseudo-creators were perceived or described in those
books and how they are perceived and how we relate to them at the
present time. As You know, in those books, the pseudo-creators were
portrayed as the most evil, vicious, cunning, despicable, negative and
putrid creatures who had nothing more in their mind than to take over
the entire positive state and to destroy You and Your Government.
However, for the first time in the Corollaries…, as well as in these
Dialogs, they don’t seem to be portrayed that way anymore. Instead, they
are perceived as someone who, in essence, is in search of the Absolute
Truth. Any comments on this seeming discrepancy?
The Lord Jesus Christ: I would like to comment on this issue gladly,
Peter. It is a good question and it needs to be elaborated upon. In some
way, it has a direct relevance to the issues discussed in the Eighty Ninth
and Ninetieth Dialogs. As you remember, Peter, in those Dialogs a
transcending understanding was offered to you and to all of you who read
these Dialogs, on the absolute need to activate and put into dominance
the pseudo-life of the negative state.
Let us look on this issue closer. Once again we are facing here the
problem of relationship or relatedness to and understanding of the
Absolute and all relatives to this Absolute.
As you remember from the aforementioned two Dialogs, from the position
of the relatives, the knowledge of the Absolute, in its Absolute State and
Process, is not possible in an absolute sense. And yet, in the state and
condition of relativity of the sentient mind, there is a tendency and a
need to somehow approximate this mysterious Absolute State. However,
as you remember, at that time, or, to be precise, at that non-time, no
grounds existed on which such approximation could take place. In order
to build such feasible grounds you need to have some orientation points
or, better to say, you need to have some comparison between something
entirely different from what you have and what is familiar to you in
order to find out or to establish everything which is not integral to the
nature of your current state and condition or your life in general.
As you remember, the issue was whether the sentient life is really
positive; that is to say, is the currently (at that time or non-time)
experienced life really positive? Does it really derive from something
which is Absolute and to which that life relates from its relative
condition? If no other condition exists, how do you define what is
positive? Against what state are you able to determine that your life is
really positive? What does the term ‘positive’ contain? If no other type of
life exists against which you can compare and define the true nature of
your current life, then isn’t it obvious that the term ‘positive’ in itself and
by itself has no meaning or sense? How do you go about determining
what is really positive and what is not so or such?
In order to answer this question, your first step in this respect is to
classify the nature and content of life which you currently experience.
Once you clearly establish all characteristics, traits, aspects, essence and
substance of that life and everything else contained in that life; and once
you determine that your life is something that derives from some kind of
Absolute State, the nature of which you are incapable of grasping in an
absolute sense, you embark on the exploration of some other possibilities
which are not contained in anything that you have or experience at the
current state and process of your life. This is your second step. In this
step you need to find out and to define what is not contained or is not
integral to your current life.
The question here is: Can something exist at all which is not contained in
the nature of your current life and, consequently, by association, is not
contained in that Absolute State which generated the currently available
life? In your classification and definition of everything contained in your
current life, you came to the conclusion that, if your current life derives
from the Absolute State, to which you are relative and by which you live
and are alive, then, by the logical construct of this setup, everything that
you classified and defined must be contained in that Absolute State with
the only difference that in that State all those established characteristics
of your current life are of the Absolute Nature, whereas in you or in your
current life they are of the relative nature. Thus, in essence, you are
nothing else but a relative approximation of that Absolute Life or State.
From this established fact you now have the relative knowledge what the
Nature of that Absolute Life or Absolute State is. However, you still lack
any degree of knowledge, first of all, how it is or what it is to be Absolute
and, secondly, what would life be like if it were not derived from that
Absolute State?
The issue here is, in its true essence and substance, the need to have
some tangible comparison which would assure that your current life is
really what you think it is and that it is not some kind of imposed factor
about which you have no idea whether it is truly real or imaginary.
So, at this point in time, you can ask yourself the following question: If
the current life, which you had already classified and defined as the life
which approximates in its relative condition the Absolute Life and its
Absolute State and Process, then what kind of life could it be which
would move in the opposite direction, away from this particular
approximation? How far could one go by moving away from It? Would
this moving away continue infinitely, without ever stopping and
reverting back on itself or returning to its originating point and
subsequently ceasing to be and to exist? Or, at one point in time, would it
exhaust all its possibilities and give a clear answer to the question that
no other type of life is possible but only the one which originated in the
Absolute Life and its Absolute State and Process? What would happen,
for example, if this movement would continue indefinitely, to eternity?
Would it mean that this other type of life is likewise Absolute? Can it be
or is it really absolute?
The paradox of this assumption is obvious. How is it possible to predicate
about anything which moves in the opposite direction and which, by its
very nature did not originate in the Original Absolute Life, from which
the current life stems or is derived, that it is Absolute if it has never
existed in itself and by itself but occurred as a reaction and opposition to
something which has always been in Itself and by Itself without any
beginning and ending? On the other hand, what would happen if, by any
chance, this opposite movement were to continue to eternity, never ever
stopping or exhausting all its possibilities? In that case, how could it be
defined or designated?
However, there is another point to this issue. Should such possibility be
feasible — moving away to eternity — then you would have no choice in
the matter but to also conclude that this type of life, which moves in the
opposite direction from the approximation of the Absolute Life and its
Absolute State and Process, originated in the Original Absolute Life as
well. In this conclusion the paradox is obvious: If both lives, mutually
exclusive and moving away from each other, originate in the same
Absolute Source, then, by the logic of this setup, they would cancel each
other; and not only that, but in that case, by the factor of mutual
cancellation and ceasing to be and to exist, they would also cancel the
Absolute Life Itself. If something like that were to happen, in that case,
no Absolute Life could exist at all because if the Absolute Life, by the
logical definition of its Absoluteness, is truly Absolute, it cannot have
any beginning or ending.
Therefore, by the logic of such a conclusion, in this sense, no Absolute
Truth, or anything Absolute, would exist likewise. In that case the only
thing that would be and would exist is relative to the relative only. For
that reason life, any life, would have to have a tangible and experiential
beginning and ending. If it were to be so, then Creation would not be the
State and Process of the Absolute Creator, but a freaky and unplanned
accidental occurrence without any intelligent and thought-out process
which, at one point in time, because of its accidental and incidental
occurrence, would cease to be and to exist forever.
As you see from these hypothetical constructs, originally, the issue here
was the search for the Absolute Truth. Because the only possible way to
begin this search is by moving in the opposite direction from the relative
approximation from It, — after all, you are incapable of deriving
anything Absolute from your relative condition — you establish a
lifestyle which doesn’t contain anything of that of which your current life
consists.
What you have to understand in this respect, Peter, is that the issue here
was to find out whether it is possible to establish a lifestyle which would,
paradoxically speaking, approximate the Absolute but in the opposite
direction — by moving away from it and not toward it. This was and is a
fundamental difference between the positive state, defined above as the
original life stemming from the Absolute, and the negative state,
respectively, defined as a subsequent life which originated in the minds
of the relative beings without any connection to the Absolute. Thus, as
you see from this difference, whereas everyone in the positive state
moves infinitely toward the approximation of the Absolute, everyone in
the negative state wants to approximate It by moving away from It.
How do you accomplish such a negative approximation? The only way
you can do it is by becoming more and more as not like anything which is
in the positive state or in the original life. By this time, of course, you
have already classified and defined all aspects, traits, characteristics and
everything else about your original life. From the position of this
classification and definition, you now begin to produce everything that is
the exact opposite to anything which is contained in your original life. As
you are moving more and more away from the Original Source of your
life, you become more and more different in all respects and in all aspects
of your new life from the original life that you had up to that point. As
you are establishing this other type of life, by its opposing factor, you
become aware what that other type of life is not and, at the same time,
you become clearly aware what your new life is like. In this setup now
you have established a condition which gives you a possibility for a clear
comparison between these two types of life. Now you established a
foundation on which you can distinguish between the nature of the
original life, defined as the positive state, and the other type of life,
defined as the negative state.
In the positive state, by the process of continuous approximation of the
Absolute Life and Its State and Process, as you move closer and closer
toward it, you become more and more as and like that Absolute Life —
Me. If I am the Absolute Love and the Absolute Wisdom and all its
infinitely numerous Derivatives, then everyone who approximates Me
and comes closer to Me becomes more and more like Me, that is, more
and more loving and wise, having more and more of their derivatives.
On the other hand, in the negative state, by the process of continuous
reversed approximation of My Absolute Life and all Its States and
Processes, as you move more and more away from Me, in your search for
everything that is not of Me and of My Absolute State and Process, in
order to find out if it is possible to know anything different than that
which is contained in Me, you become less and less like Me. And not only
that but by opposing everything contained in Me and My positive state,
you become more and more of that which is not contained in Me and My
positive state.
So, if I am the Absolute Unconditional Love and Absolute Wisdom, the
farther away you move in the opposite direction from Me, the more
unloving and unwise you become. If I am the Absolute Good and Truth
then, by the reversed approximation, you become more and more evil and
false. And because all infinitely numerous derivatives of My Absolute
Unconditional Love and Absolute Wisdom are of My Absolutely Positive
Nature, as you move farther away from Me, in your evil and false
lifestyle, you will reversibly approximate them so that all derivatives of
your evils and falsities will become more and more negative to the point
that they will be coming closer and closer to everything opposite which is
contained in My True Nature.
Thus, in this sense, you may say that the more away you are from Me
and My positive state, the less and less you will be as and like I am and
the less and less you will have of that which is contained in My positive
state.
And this brings us to the answer to your question, Peter. Basically, you
can say that one of the many issues for the pseudo-creators was to find
out how far they can go in becoming negative or as and like I am not and
My positive state is not. Again, the question was: Is it possible at all that
by the process of reversed approximation of My Absolute Life, a point
could never be reached at which point their becoming more and more
negative would exhaust all its possibilities and there would be nothing
else after that point which would enable them to become even more
negative, evil and false? If they could reach such a point, then it would
prove beyond the shadow of a doubt that anything originated in the
relative condition, cannot have life in itself and by itself and therefore, it
could never be absolute or of the absolute. In that case, by the logic of
this factor, the opposite must be true — all life must originate in the
Absolute State — Me, in order to have no ending and no exhaustion of its
usefulness and creativity. And this is the Absolute Truth.
So, as the pseudo-creators, by their own design, were becoming more and
more negative, for the purpose of testing their hypothesis, as outlined
above, they generated more and more characteristics which in My New
Revelation were designated as possibly the most evil, putrid, despicable
and by similar adverse traits. In this respect they went as far as they
were capable of. At the present time, they are finding themselves at a
dead end, recognizing the fact that anything originating in the relative
condition, without any relevance to anything Absolute, has no
permanency, no continuation, no possibilities, no true creativity and no
nothing (two negatives, please!).
Because of this factor and because, originally, the purpose of their
becoming that way was solely for the establishment of that which is not
of the Absolute and which is not true, and thus, obliquely, coming to the
conclusion that Absolute Truth really exists, in order to reflect this
situation with them, it was necessary to look at them in the
Corollaries… and these Dialogs not as being your adversaries but allies
in the search for the real truth. After all, all your lives, you all have been
searching for this Truth — Me.
Before that, before the transcending understanding of the needs for the
activation of the negative state, it was vitally necessary for you to
acquire a proper knowledge about the genesis and nature of the negative
state in all aspects of its abominable state and condition. Without such
knowledge, you could never come to proper conclusions about its
meaning, purpose and nature. In that case, not properly knowing about
it and why it was permitted by Me to be activated, you would remain in
distortions and falsities not only about the negative state but also about
the positive state and My True Nature. For that reason, it was necessary
first to show you the true face of the negative state in all its aspects,
before anything else could be revealed in this respect. And because the
pseudo-creators were the ones who agreed to become the embodiment of
all and every abomination and putridity of the negative state, it was
necessary to describe them and their deeds in such adverse terms and
concepts.
However, at the present time, during the currently ongoing shift, as well
as from the time Update 20 was recorded by you, Peter, the situation has
fundamentally changed. As mentioned many times before, absolutely
nothing is the same. The present situation in all worlds and universes,
that is to say, in the multiverse, as well as in the Zone of Displacement
and on your planet, requires that the real reasons for the permission of
the activation of the negative state and for the true nature, position and
role of the pseudo-creators in all of this be revealed and accepted by all of
you who read these words.
It is vital and crucial that, as My true representatives, you know the real
truth behind all of this. Only with the truth in your minds and hands,
symbolically speaking, will you be able to effectively survive in what is to
come and to fulfill your mission to the satisfaction of all.
Peter: Thank You very much for this exquisite elaboration and
revelation. Is there anything else You would like to contribute today?
The Lord Jesus Christ: You are welcome, Peter. The content of this
Dialog is somewhat difficult. For that reason, I would postpone saying
anything else until the opportune time. Intuitively, you will know when.
In the meantime, have a marvelous time with My Czech and Slovak
people. And now, go on the balcony and sunbathe for a while.
Source: DIALOGUES WITH THE LORD JESUS CHRIST PART 1.
