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NINETY SECOND DIALOGUE
July 28, 1999, in Prague, Czech Republic
Peter: As You know, during my visit in Slovakia, some of Your people
were asking questions that may have multiversal significance. Perhaps,
a few questions could be formulated at this time while I am still in
Prague. Would You be willing to consider them? Of course, before that, is
there anything at all that You would like to remind us about or elaborate
upon first?
The Lord Jesus Christ: Thank you, Peter, for asking Me to talk first.
And yes, it is appropriate to ask one or two questions, as posed by Milan
Schultz of Slovakia and others. However, let Me address, in the form of a
reminder, some issues first. Something needs to be brought to your
attention before going into answering one particular question. And
although the issue that needs to be restated is very obvious from
everything previously stated many times in My New Revelation,
nevertheless, it is timely for it to be restated once more.
As you know, everything in the positive state, as well as in the content of
all sources of My New Revelation, is in a continuous progressive mode.
At each junction of any new phase of any shift, most of everything that
was indicated or used before, may not be relevant or appropriate any
longer following the crossing of this junction or making an appropriate,
or even inappropriate, turn. For this reason, as you remember from
Update 15, it was very strongly stated there, with great emphasis, that
nothing in My New Revelation should become old — ever!
What does this statement signify or mean? First of all, it means that, as
the spiritual progression is going on, all concepts, ideas, terms,
principles, precepts, or whatever, contained in all three sources of My
New Revelation, in their meaning and significance, trigger a different
understanding and application accommodated to the nature of each
particular time in the process of this spiritual progression. Secondly, it
means that there is a continuous process of regeneration and renewal of
everything contained in My New Revelation taking place which affects
everyone and everything in being and existence and pseudo-being and
pseudo-existence. And thirdly, that nothing in My New Revelation, in all
its aspects, should ever be taken dogmatically and fanatically.
As you are aware, if the nature of something is in the state and process of
continuous progression, it can never be fixed, unchangeable, dogmatic or
doctrinal because, otherwise, it would prevent any such progression to be
progressive or to be in the process of moving onward and forward.
So, why are we talking about these obvious facts at this time, Peter?
Well, look at this need this way: As you were discussing various
important spiritual issues during your meetings with My people in
Slovakia and the Czech Republic, you noticed a peculiar tendency of
some of them to dwell on the methods and practices, the use of which was
proper and appropriate at the time of their initial formulation and
implementation but the use of which at the current state of affairs
completely and totally exhausted its usefulness and served its purpose so
that their relevance at this time is not only inappropriate but it is even
spiritually dangerous. And yet, the questions you received about their
use were indicative of the possible fact that the tendency might still be
there to abide by their requirements.
The problem with this situation is that, if such a tendency with some of
you still might exist, then certain requirements of the past, as contained
in some statements in My New Revelation, especially in the
Corollaries…, were understood and applied dogmatically and not in a
progressive and here-and-now mode. From a dogmatic approach it is
only one step from being fanatical about anything contained in My New
Revelation.
Of course, it was very appropriate to ask about the continuous validity of
some of those requirements despite the fact that it should have been
obvious from the nature of My New Revelation itself that they had only
temporary usability and application until something better, newer and
more appropriate would become available.
Take for example, the requirements of one previous phase of the past
shift, the nature of which was the establishment of the need for
individualized and personalized approach within the frame of My New
Revelation and everyone’s life (of those connected to My New Revelation).
Because of that requirement, it was advisable for all of you not to
congregate in one big group but to get together in twos or threes and not
more. The reason for this requirement was that none of you at that time
was on the spiritual level which would enable your ego states to be
subsumed by your spiritual mind or not to be in the way of your mutual
interactions. On the other hand, this requirement was also for the
purpose that everyone of you would be anchored in your own
individualized and personalized within where you could establish a very
private, unique and intimate relationship with Me from which position
you would be able to ask your own personal, intimate and relevant-to-you-only
questions and get your own personal, individualized and intimate answers
relevant only to you as well.
Now, in some respect, the statement about the group gathering was
possibly conceived by some of you in a dogmatic way. It was assumed
that, from that time on, this will always be the case to eternity and, at
the same time, that no more of any type of revelation would be coming
from Me through Peter, for example, which would have a multiversal
significance. And yet, as you don’t remember, it was clearly stated there
(Update 15, for example) that this situation will continue for a short
period of time, or for some time, until something else would be
accomplished and established.
As you see from this example, the negative state effectively blocked your
memory from the true meaning of that which was stated there in this
respect so that you would conveniently forget in what context the above
requirement was made. This is a good example of how the human mind
operates. Under the influence of the negative state, it takes into
consideration one part of some statement, which best suits the current
needs of its functioning, and disregards the other part which limits the
applicability of the first part to a certain period of time beyond which its
continuous application not only would become useless but could even be
spiritually dangerous.
Should any statements in My New Revelation be taken dogmatically and
fanatically, My New Revelation would become old very fast and
consequently, useless. Nothing in it would remain that would have any
meaning and significance. On the other hand, it is the utmost matter of
your intuition and the wisdom of your spiritual mind to be able to
distinguish between those statements of My New Revelation which have
absolute validity, applicable for all times to eternity, from those which
have only a temporary value. It is advisable that, at all cost, you are to
avoid dogmatizing and immortalizing those statements which have such
a temporary validity and applicability. By avoiding doing so, you will be
able to receive new input into your understanding of everything
contained in My New Revelation and in your own personal and
individualized life. This will assure your continuous spiritual growth and
progression. On the other hand, if you dogmatize such statements, that
have only temporary validity, making them eternally applicable, you
would effectively block yourself from proper understanding of the true
meaning of everything contained in My New Revelation and thus, you
would fall into the traps of the negative state, becoming negative. In that
case, also, your intuition would atrophy into nothing and you would lose
any connection with the true reality of My positive state and your own
integrated within. Of course, should anything of that nature happen, it
would be futile to talk about integration of your within because it would
realistically mean that you have never accomplished such an integration.
The integrated within signifies an all-out unification of all aspects of
your life from the most within to the most without. In the state of such
an integration, your intuition would very clearly indicate to you about
anything that has a permanent validity and applicability and about that
which doesn’t have it. Otherwise, such distinction would not be possible.
Another extreme in understanding of some statements in My New
Revelation, and especially in these Dialogs, is a tendency for a very broad
generalization. A good example of this tendency is in the way a
statement about black coffee was made. Because of the process by which
the coffee beans are being processed and by that processing are being
made black, some of you assumed that, because of the negative spiritual
correspondence of the black color, any processing which turns some
substances from some other, more pleasant color into the black one, such
substances should be avoided likewise. Such statements should never be
generalized as applicable to all chemical and other processes which
convert and change colors or anything else for that matter.
Again, it was forgotten in what context that statement was made. It
related solely to chemical substances that have a dangerous property to
alter your consciousness, thus, effectively distorting and even falsifying
the true perception of your reality and reality of everything else,
especially the spiritual reality. Such mind-altering substances not only
distort and falsify the proper perception of any reality but may put you in
contact with demons/renegades who would appear to you as angels of
light, giving you the false impression that you are in contact with My
positive state. These mind-altering substances, to which strong black
coffee and cigarettes also belong, became one of the most effective means
for the negative state to adversely influence humankind in general and
possibly even My representatives — if they continue in such practices.
Because of these facts, you should never ascribe an all-inclusive
applicability of something which is limited only to certain requirements
that may have a damaging effect on how your mind functions and
perceives any reality or pseudo-reality, and to anything else which
doesn’t have such an effect.
The danger of such improper perception is in the fact that, under the
influence of such substances, a reversed perception may occur: The true
reality may be perceived as a false one and the false reality as the true
one. This is the very purpose of the negative state to put you in such a
reversed, or upside-down position.
At the same time, the tendency to improperly generalize the applicability
of such statements can also be utilized by the negative state. In this case,
because you would be afraid to use anything which was changed by some
kind of process into a black substance, for example, but which doesn’t
have any ability to improperly alter your mind, your life would be full of
unnecessary restrictions that would complicate your life even further.
Any unnecessary restrictions and complications are always of the
negative state. In that case, you would be under the influence of the
negative state and you would be in the negative state. And you don’t
want that.
The above discourse is meant only as a reminder in order for you to avoid
falling into a trap set up for you by the negative state, especially by the
renegades. As always, rely on your intuition and in it, ultimately, on Me.
That way you will know clearly how and to what extent and for how long
anything at all is applicable, usable and valid. And this is all that I
wanted to remind you of at this time. You may go ahead, Peter, and ask
your question on behalf of Milan Schultz of Slovakia.
Peter: His question is a very interesting one and for him a very
troubling one. It relates to Your requirement to use in fullness the words
“The Lord Jesus Christ” whenever we address You or talk with You or
about You amongst ourselves or in our private thoughts. He told me that
he perfectly understands intellectually the need for doing it the way it is
extensively explained in Your New Revelation (especially throughout the
Big Book). However, he has difficulty in grasping why someone as You
who is Absolute couldn’t come up with some-kind-of one word for Your
Name which would contain everything at all signified by the words “The
Lord Jesus Christ.”
The Lord Jesus Christ: It is not necessary to repeat what was said
about this issue in The New Revelation of The Lord Jesus Christ.
The issue of mystical integration and all-inclusiveness, contained in
those words, was properly conceived and explained. Milan’s question is a
very good one. However, his problem is, as well as everyone else’s on your
planet, that he looks at it from a typical human position. Of course, up to
this point, no other position has been available to him, or to any one of
you, from which you could or were able to relate to Me. Don’t forget in
what world or what condition you live in. What are the modes of
communication amongst all of you? How do you convey something to
anyone with whom you are in contact? You do it by specific words of your
language in which you speak. Either you say it with your mouth or write
it down using the same expressions. Even when you think about Me or
anyone else, when you address Me or anyone else in your mind, you
silently use the same expressions in words by which you talk or write.
As you know, human expressive abilities and what they are capable of
describing and containing are extremely limited. They are never able to
fully express the total meaning and content of any reality or pseudo-
reality available to them. This situation is even more obvious in
expressing or describing something of a spiritual nature or of the positive
state and of other dimensions, especially those that are of non-temporal
and non-spatial nature. In order to bring to your human mind even
remotely the understanding of something which is of a purely spiritual
and multidimensional nature, it is necessary to describe it in many
words because, from the position of your relativity, one word could not
contain or explain or grasp the entire meaning of that which that nature
contains or has. In this case, if you were to use only one word, that word,
because of its relative and extremely limited nature, by its very limited
meaning, would convey to you only a part of the whole but not the whole
itself. In that case, you would make a judgment about the whole from its
part. To make any conclusion from one part of the nature of the whole
can and may lead to distortions and falsifications about the entire nature
of that whole.
The problem in this case is that seeing things from the perspective of one
part, splits that whole into fractions. By that split the whole loses its
wholeness and becomes effectively disintegrated. This is the way things
are on your planet and in the negative state as well. This is the way the
human mind and creatures in the negative state function in general and
how the life of the negative state is possible to maintain. If anyone in
human life and in the negative state would be able to perceive and to
describe things the way they really are in their totality and wholeness,
no negative state and human life would be possible.
The problems with humans are that they are incapable of communicating
in ideas, but only in words and/or pictures and/or in tangibly visible
symbols. Because of that, whatever you need to convey to them from the
position of non-human life, in this case, from the position of My positive
state or from Me and about Me directly, you have to convert those ideas
into their own mode of expression, perception, impression and
understanding. As one full idea about anything in the positive state is
being sent out to the human mind, in the process of its conversion, in
order to have any impact on that mind, it splits into multiple words or
pictures or symbols that convey to it its meaning and significance.
How do you convey something which is of Absolute Nature to someone
who is of the relative nature? If I were to use only one word for My
Name, as it would enter the relative mind, it would limit considerably
and much further the understanding of who I am and what My Nature
is. In order to give to the relative mind some approximation of My
Absolute Nature, I have to accommodate Myself to the level of their
receptive, impressive, perceptive and comprehensive ability. As I send
out My One Idea about My “ABSOLUTE I AM,” as it enters the relative
mind, it splits into several ideas which are better able to approximate
what My Absolute Nature is all about. Subsequently, as those ideas are
conveyed to the human mind, they are converted into words, pictures or
symbols, which give My representatives some semblance of the true
reality of My positive state and My True Nature.
The way you have to understand the reality of the positive state and the
way they communicate amongst themselves and with Me is, that their
communication takes place from mind to mind by the means of ideas. In
the positive state the words “The Lord Jesus Christ” evoke one
immensely beautiful and indescribable-in-human-words idea which
contains the entire meaning and mystical connotation of the words “The
Lord Jesus Christ.” Any time that this one idea enters their mind, they
perceive and understand it as The Lord Jesus Christ. In this sense, they
don’t perceive it as three words but as one singular idea which contains
those three words and everything they mean and signify. However, as
that particular idea is sent out to you — My representatives, because of
the limitations put on you by the human aspects of your nature, as it
descends down, it sounds in your mind as three words — The Lord Jesus
Christ. These words subsequently evoke your ability to be connected not
only to Me personally but to all aspects of your mind, as well as to all
dimensions of the multiverse to which each one of you is connected.
As you see from this description, the human aspects of your mind, to
which you are limited at the present time, have no other recourse but to
use these three words — The Lord Jesus Christ — in order to evoke
everything which enables you to be in a proper spiritual position with
full connection to Me personally and to My positive state. At the same
time, the reverse direction is also significant because it evokes the
mystical connection between you and your world (planet Zero) and
Myself and the true reality of the positive state. This connection makes it
possible for everyone on your planet to be in their own mode of life or
pseudo-life, respectively.
What happens here is that as you say the words “The Lord Jesus Christ,”
as they ascend to Me and to everyone in the positive state, as well as
everyone in the negative state, in the positive state and in relationship to
Me, they are converted into one immensely beautiful Idea, which
contains the full meaning and significance of the three words “The Lord
Jesus Christ,” connecting you to Me and My World. On the other hand, in
the negative state, as those words enter there, they are converted into
zillions of fractions by which they are able to maintain their own pseudo-
life but also by which they are connected to Me for the purpose of their
control and check so that they don’t exceed anything permissible and
agreed upon before their pseudo-being and pseudo-existence came to
their adverse fruition. At the same time, by your continuously sending
out those three words — “The Lord Jesus Christ” — a favorable condition
is being built in the negative state for the eventual conversion of
everyone there to the positive state.
As you know, only through My New Nature and My New Revelation, as
reflected and contained in those three words — “The Lord Jesus Christ,”
from the position of planet Zero, as well as by those words, or to what
they spiritually correspond and what they contain, can anyone be
converted to the positive state. Because at this time no other means for
this conversion exist, it is important that you continuously evoke My
Name in three words — “The Lord Jesus Christ,” but with the idea in
your mind that it is being always converted by Me, as it ascends to Me,
into One Absolute Singular Idea which contains everything that I am
and that I have in My Absolute Nature.
So, in answering Milan’s question, as long as you are in the human life,
and as long as you use the external words of your respective language for
communication, it is utterly impossible to express everything contained
in My New Nature by one singular word. And not only that, but, because
of the special condition which exists in human life in relationship
between the Absolute and all relative humans to that Absolute, from the
position of their relative condition, at this time, no other form of
expression is possible at all. You would have to be either absolute
yourself or, at least, out of the human life in order to express anything in
one singular idea which would express everything contained in that
Absolute.
In the positive state there is an approximation of that Absolute which
allows all members of the positive state to perceive and to apprehend
that Absolute as One Singular Idea projected into three aspects in such a
way that it is registered in their mind as an integrated and unified
Whole expressed in a multimodal and multidimensional projection
imparted on all its inhabitants at the level and degree of their spiritual
development. Because of that, although they do have an impression of
the idea which contains these three aspects, represented at your level as
the words “The Lord Jesus Christ,” nevertheless, they don’t see it as
something which has three distinct beings and existences but as
something that unifies all and everything. In that sense, when you say at
your level “The Lord Jesus Christ,” everyone in other dimensions,
connected to you, doesn’t hear them as three different words but as one
unified and integrated Whole, in which the Absolute is contained in an
absolute condition and sense.
Because of this setup, what would happen, if, after I acquired My New
Nature in its Absolute Condition and State, you would say only one word,
such as for example, “The Lord,” or “Jesus,” or “Christ,” or any other one
singular word by which you would want to address Me or relate to Me?
In that case, you would fail to establish the proper connection either with
Me or with anyone in the positive state to whom you are connected and
especially to the members of the New Universe, whose nature is rooted in
My New Nature as expressed by the words “The Lord Jesus Christ.” As
that one word, expressed from your relative condition, would try to
ascend to their level, they would register it as an empty notion without
any meaning. It couldn’t evoke anything significant or needed in order to
have any impact on them or on you. As you see from this situation, at the
present time, your connection to Me and to everyone in the positive state
is, in a very special, mysterious and mystical way, executed by the use of
the words “The Lord Jesus Christ,” and by anything contained in My
New Revelation founded and built on those three words and what they
contain. I can assure you that the fullness of My New Revelation would
not be possible without My New Nature and thus, without The Lord
Jesus Christ. Remember that!
However, there is another point to this issue. It relates to the negative
state and human life. Previously, before the Twenty Fourth Dialog was
recorded by you, Peter, anything contained in My New Revelation and
any time you said the words “The Lord Jesus Christ,” as all that
descended to the negative state, it was split and disjointed into a
multitude of fractions and transmogrified into pure distortions and
falsities in the same manner as those words in the positive state were
unified, integrated and transformed into One Beautiful Idea, which
contained the entirety of the content of My New Revelation as well as of
My New Nature and conveyed to the level of everyone’s spiritual
development and progression. However, this situation changed entirely
from that time. As you remember from that and subsequent Dialogs, at
the present time, when you read My New Revelation in all their three
sources, and as you say the words “The Lord Jesus Christ,” those words
and what they contain sound in My Voice in their minds without any
distortions or falsities.
In this case, what would happen if you were to limit yourself to one
singular word, especially as related to My Name? It would instantly
reestablish the old ways of distortions and falsifications and no one in
the negative state would be able to hear Me any longer. The reason for
this fact is because you would be talking from the position of separation,
disunion and disintegration and thus, in an ultimate sense, from the
position of the negative state. In that case, you wouldn’t be eliminating
the negative state but reinforcing its pseudo-being and pseudo-existence.
And as you know, the only way to eliminate the negative state is by the
means of My New Nature which is reflected in the words “The Lord
Jesus Christ” and in everything contained in My New Revelation. Of
course, there are many other reasons why from the position of all relative
beings it is necessary to retain the expression “The Lord Jesus Christ.”
However, these reasons are either of the absolute nature, which could
not be comprehended and apprehended by any relative mind, or they are
premature to reveal. The latter ones will become obvious at some other
time, when conditions will be such that they would allow shedding
further light on this spiritually important issue.
Peter: Thank You very much for this revelation. I hope that Milan will
be satisfied with Your answer, at least to some degree.
The Lord Jesus Christ: You are welcome, Peter. As far as satisfaction
is concerned, it is necessary to restate the principle of modesty,
humbleness and humility. One has to learn to be thankful and grateful
for what is available and utilize it to its fullest potentials instead of
craving for more or something different. As you remember, it was
indicated to all of you previously, that if you have some questions and the
answers for them are not forthcoming, it only means that at this
particular time they would not serve any spiritual benefit for you or
anyone else. For that reason, as you know so well, everything has its own
time and place. It is a sign of true wisdom, maturity and humbleness to
be satisfied with whatever answers you receive at each particular time.
Peter: I understand, and I fully accept this necessity. Again, thank You
very much for everything. Is there anything else that You would like to
convey to us today?
The Lord Jesus Christ: Not today, Peter. I think it is enough for now.
Go in peace.
Source: DIALOGUES WITH THE LORD JESUS CHRIST PART 1.
