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August 28, 1999
Peter: Today, I would like, if I may, to formulate my own question which
relates to the possible discrepancy or contradiction between something
that was revealed some time ago in one of the previous Dialogs and in a
more recent Dialog, recorded in Prague. In the former Dialog it was
stated that, at one point in time, before Your incarnation on planet Zero,
the sentient entities, both from the positive state and the negative state,
respectively, had direct access to planet Zero and could visibly appear to
its inhabitants. On the other hand, in the latter Dialog, it was indicated
that human life and pseudo-life of the negative state is unreal and
because of that, it is not contained in the true reality of Your Creation.
And not only that, but it was indicated on several occasions, that
anything happening in the negative state and human life was like
hieroglyphs to them so that they had no idea about anything related to
the negative state and human life. How do You reconcile this
discrepancy? Of course, I know the answer to this question but for the
sake of others who might notice this seeming discrepancy, I would like to
ask for Your explanation of this issue. However, before answering my
question, perhaps You have something to reveal to us, or to add to
anything previously discussed.
The Lord Jesus Christ: It is appropriate to answer your question,
Peter. However, before going into that, I would first like to use this
opportunity to talk about something else. There are two diametrically
different issues that I want to touch upon in the form of a reminder. As
you know, human language and its words, in its expressive,
comprehensive ability, and to what each word contains, means and
signifies, when it is used for explanation of deep and pure spiritual ideas
and concepts is incapable to fully, and sometimes even remotely, convey
the true reality of the discussed issues related to spiritual factors. The
problem with this situation is that, if you are trying to convey to the
human mind something related to very deep and most inward spiritual
ideas and concepts, it cannot grasp the full meaning of that which is
being conveyed to it. And not only that, but because of the tendency of
the typical human mind to perceive and to apprehend everything in the
external, literal sense, the proper understanding of such ideas, the way
they are being conveyed to it in this respect, and the way their real
meaning is, very often, eludes their full and appropriate comprehension.
This situation could become a problem. If something is not properly
understood and apprehended, it may lead to the acceptance of those
ideas in such a way that the human mind either distorts their true
meaning, — and this is a better case, — or it falsifies them completely —
and this is the worst case scenario.
On the other hand, how do you convey to humans something which
totally transcends their ability, or the ability of their language and used
words, to grasp the full meaning and significance of that something? The
limitations of human language and words used in this respect are
enormous. This structure of the human mind and its language was
originally fabricated by the pseudo-creators with only one purpose: To
conceal as much as possible the ability of proper and correct
understanding of anything truly spiritual, meaningful and deeply inward
from humans.
The reason for this reminder at this particular time is in the fact that My
New Revelation in all its aspects contains deep spiritual ideas. One of the
reasons, although not the only one, why each and every one of you is on a
different level of understanding, apprehension, conception, acceptance
and practice of My New Revelation, is that your human mind, in your
own individualized and personalized structure, grasps its ideas, precepts,
concepts and principles from the position of your own pseudo-unique
limitations and restrictions. This, in turn, leads to the possibility of your
own brand of possible distortions and misunderstanding of what My New
Revelation, in all its sources, contains. Because of the specific structure
of your human mind, the tendency would be very strong to take some
concepts of My New Revelation in their literal sense or in the sense of the
meaning of the words which are used for conveyance of such spiritual
ideas. Here we are not talking about the inner sense and the literal sense
as reflected, for example, the way the Christian Bible was written. What
we are talking about here is the meaning of the literal, external human
language and its words which is totally and completely incapable of
expressing the true meaning of anything spiritual, internal and Absolute.
Unfortunately, no other mode of conveyance is available to you at this
time — as long as you are bound by the human language and its words.
Take for example, a very important but highly abstractive and
philosophical explanation of the term ‘cycle of time,’ which was
extensively discussed in the Ninety Eighth Dialog. At one point of its
explanation, it was said that My Creation and its multiverse was put in
the farthest possible proximity, or in the most outward state, process and
condition, from My Absolute State, Condition and Process. How do you
really understand this statement by your typical human mind?
Obviously, because your human mind is structured in the time-space
categories, it would tend to perceive this statement in a typical time-space
bound fashion. In other words, your human mind would tend to see
this relationship as something in the sense that I am somewhere out
there, several trillion light years away from you in some kind of spatial-
temporal warp-type condition, where I wait for you to mature enough in
order to bring you closer and closer to Myself.
But what kind of other words or expressions could you use to describe
such a non-tangible, non-literal and non-physical concept as the
relationship between Absolute and relative or between Me and My
Creation and its multiverse? There is no other way — if you want to use
human language and its words to describe this relationship or any other
important spiritual concepts and ideas.
However, as you remember, it was stated to you several times, that you,
as My representatives on planet Zero, were wired somewhat differently
from all others. This different wiring puts you in a position to utilize
something for understanding such concepts, regardless of what kinds of
words are used for their description, that is highly developed within you
— your intuition. Your intuition, as compared with the so-called intuition
of typical humans and researchers and discoverers, is of a totally
different brand. Their intuition was limited only to the sudden discovery
of the phenomena which were of the natural, non-spiritual causes. It is
not the same type of intuition that you have. Although in their intuition
My presence was likewise, it was limited to the one-sided flow from Me to
them but not from them to Me, so that they couldn’t perceive,
acknowledge and accept My presence in them and ascribe all their
discoveries, or whatever they were coming up with, to My presence in
their intuition. This is the fundamental difference between you and them
or between their brand of intuition and yours.
In your particular case, your intuition is geared entirely, or mostly, to the
apprehension, grasp, understanding and acceptance of all My spiritual
ideas in their right mode, the way they really are and what they really
mean. This intuition of yours predisposes you, or makes it possible for
you, to see everything the way it is behind the scene, even though, very
often, you are not able to express it in the typical human language and
its limiting, one-sided, literal and distorting (as well as disturbing)
words; or to see it or comprehend it by your external mind.
The reason I am bringing this factor to your attention at this particular
time, is because that part of you which is called your human nature, will
be subject to the greatest temptation by the forces of the negative state. I
can assure you that the renegades and all their minions will be very
vigorously tempting the human aspects of your nature in order to make
believe that it is the most important part of your overall nature so that
you would look upon everything not from the position of your special type
of intuition but from the position of your human nature. I also can assure
you that they are very much afraid, almost horrified, by your ability to
intuit the way you are capable of. This ability of yours is totally and
completely driving them insane because it undermines their position and
makes it impossible for them to establish their rule based on total
externalization, literalization and physicalization of everything in their
domain. Their purpose in this respect is to totally eliminate from their
mode of life and from human life anything spiritual, inward and properly
intuitive. With all other humans, they have been succeeding very rapidly
in this respect.
However, you are a totally different story. With you, thanks to your
intuition, which puts you in the position of reception, understanding,
acceptance and practice of My New Revelation, the renegades and their
numerous minions are unable to accomplish their goal in this respect.
But they know that you do have an aspect in your nature which is
typically human. Therefore, they will be very strongly, viciously and
forcefully targeting that aspect in question. The way they will do it is to
make you look at everything and understand everything in a typically
human, non-spiritual fashion. They will try to force you to forget about
your intuition and to listen to that which is coming from the human
aspects. One way of doing this will be to ascribe to the meaning of your
human external language and its words, whenever any spiritual ideas,
concepts and constructs are being conveyed to you, only that which is
contained in your human language and its words. In this case you would
tend to concentrate on the external, literal meaning of the words used to
describe these important spiritual concepts instead of on your specific
intuition which clearly explains to you the real meaning hidden behind
those words.
If the renegades and their minions could accomplish this, they would
effectively sidetrack you from the proper understanding of the ideas,
conveyed to you, and you would end up distorting or even falsifying
them. Should something like that happen, and should you continue to
look upon all spiritual factors from the typical aspect of your human
nature, then gradually and almost imperceptibly, you would suffocate
your ability to intuit or to use your very specific intuition for seeing the
true meaning of all spiritual ideas conveyed to you the way that meaning
hides behind the external meanings of the words of the human limited
and limiting language. And this is what the renegades and their minions
would like to accomplish.
In view of these facts, therefore, it is very crucial and important for you
to bear this danger in your mind and to ask Me to continuously magnify
and amplify your specific intuition and to protect you (by protecting
yourself) from falling into this trap hidden in the use of human language
and its words as reflected in the typical aspect of your human nature.
Because of this danger, you need to train yourself on a daily basis to
utilize your intuition in all matters of your life but especially whenever
you are receiving My revelation about deeper spiritual ideas such as
contained in My New Revelation or, to be more specific, such as
contained, for example, in the Ninety Eighth Dialog. Only by the process
of your specific intuition will you be able to fully grasp the true meaning
of all such spiritual ideas, concepts, terms, precepts and principles.
The other issue that I wanted to talk about is somewhat more practical
from your human standpoint than the above discussed issue. It relates to
your human tendency to ascribe to external things, such as to food’s
ingredients, for example, and similar things, which they don’t have in
themselves and by themselves. We have already touched upon this issue
several times. However, at this time, it is brought to your attention once
again, in order to look at it from the perspective of the currently ongoing
shift. The issue here again is — temptation, to which you are and will be
subjected by the forces of the negative state in order to deter you from
properly leading and manifesting your spiritual life and from your role,
position and assignment which you have as My representatives.
The danger of ascribing something to anything which it doesn’t have, is
in the fact that by doing that, you are, in fact, supporting the falsehoods
of the negative state, seeing things not the way they are behind the scene
but as they are on or at the scene. Any extreme preoccupation with
properties of something which is neutral in itself and by itself, may lead
to ascribing it something which it doesn’t have. By projecting into
regular, everyday type of food’s ingredients, for example, (and this is only
one example amongst many!), of which the normal and regular food is
made, some harmful substances or elements for your body and soul, lead
to the distortion and falsification of the true reality. In this case, it is not
those ingredients, or any other similar things, that cause problems for
your body and soul, and subsequently, for your spiritual well-being, but
your wrong, inappropriate and inadequate attitude that does so. Unless
you have some obvious medical conditions which would justify avoidance
of the use of some of these ingredients, you would have no spiritual
reasons whatsoever, for limiting and restricting your life and the
everyday pleasures of that life which is, in itself and by itself, by its very
nature, already restricting and limiting to an extreme degree and which
gives you very little true pleasure.
As mentioned above, any such possible tendency on your part, will be,
and already is utilized by the renegades and their minions for adversely
influencing your life. After all, if you, by your wrong and inappropriate
attitude, accept and identify yourself with falsities, by ascribing to
something external that which it doesn’t have, you, for all practical
purposes, support the renegade’s cause who always see everything and
all from the position of their externals. Knowing well the human
tendency to ascribe to all such external factors and entities something
which they don’t have or contain or possess in themselves and by
themselves, the renegades and their minions will target you very
strongly should they detect that you are inclined to have such tendencies
and that you are trying to avoid certain things in your life because of
your wrong and inappropriate beliefs about the properties of such things.
Now, this is only a warning. Basically, you can do anything you want.
You are not obliged to listen to or to follow anything which is being
offered to you in the form of reminders or advice in the content of these
Dialogs. However, as mentioned previously, one of the many purposes for
which these Dialogs are being made available to you is to bring all these
important matters to your attention. At the present time, the dangers
are very potent and real, the temptations are very strong and difficult
and your positions are being challenged on all fronts. Take heed and be
alert to anything which could be utilized to tempt you. Remember, turn
yourself to Me in your specific and unique intuition!
Peter: Thank You for this timely reminder. Before answering my
question, which I formulated at the beginning of this Dialog, I would like
to humbly ask You to make any comment on the question which Heather
raised yesterday in a phone conversation with me, after reading the
Ninety Eighth Dialog. Her question was: How does the concept of the
lines of progression fit into the concept of the cycles of time the way it
was explained in that Dialog?
The Lord Jesus Christ: Well, you see, Peter, here we are again facing
the problem of expressing something in the words of the human language
which is extremely difficult, or almost impossible, to do. Take for
example, the word ‘line.’ What does it convey to your typical human
mind? What would be the very first tendency to see behind that word? At
first glance, in the human conceptualization of that word, it would be
deduced that some straightforward line is in being and existence, which
has some kind of beginning and, logically speaking, some kind of ending.
In the true reality of this concept, no such line exists. However, this term
came about in order to give you some orientation points so that you could
grasp how things evolve in being and existence and how they pseudo-
evolve in pseudo-being and pseudo-existence.
Initially, this term was used to refute the false concept of reincarnation
to which many humans desperately cling. At that time it was indicated
that a certain line of destiny is followed by each participant within each
cycle of time. The word ‘line’ is a theoretical construct which brings the
concept of a buildup of a certain quality of spiritual reality, or pseudo-
spiritual pseudo-reality, and its very specific aspects, somewhat closer to
your understanding, which is followed by sentient entities in their
choices to participate in the effectual implementation and discharge of
that spiritual quality’s aspect and their contribution to the fulfillment of
the purpose for which each cycle of time was/is being instituted.
The way you have to understand this concept is by realizing that, once
any aspect of the spiritual component, released from My Absolute
Nature, within the globality of the relevant cycle of time, is discharged
and establishes itself within the locality of each specific time and non-
time, it produces its own ‘line’ of destiny, which requires its fulfillment
until it runs its course or until it exhausts all its possibilities and its
entire content. The way this process runs its course is by any
volunteering sentient entity entering this imaginary ‘line’ for the purpose
of taking upon itself its nature and its destiny and everything it contains
in his/her unique way and manner. Two things, among many other
things, happen in this process. By the very specific aspect of the
mentioned spiritual component, the continuous life of each participating
sentient entity in that ‘line’ is assured. Any sentient entity in that line,
in fact, lives and is alive by what that ‘line,’ or, to be more precise, which
that spiritual aspect in that line, continuously provides.
Because each sentient entity in that ‘line,’ in comparison with that line,
or with the aspect of the spiritual component of that line, which rules
that line and its destiny, is comparatively in a shorter cycle of time in
relationship to himself/herself than the entire line in itself, that sentient
entity fulfills its purpose much faster than the entirety of that line. And
here comes the second thing that happens in this process. The departing
sentient entity of that line, also leaves behind everything related to
his/her specific nature and the uniqueness of contributions that this
entity made during the stay in that line. These are necessary to leave
behind in order to assure the continuation of the course which was
running within that line and in order to give a base into which the newly
incoming sentient entity could be anchored and build his/her own unique
mode of life, thus, contributing his/her own efforts to the fulfillment of
the purpose for which that line was established in the first place.
From this process the false concept of reincarnation on planet Zero and
the Zone of Displacement originated. As you know, the pseudo-life in the
negative state and on planet Zero follows the same course. Thus, it has
its own pseudo-lines which determine the destiny of all who agreed to
participate in those lines. Because each sentient entity leaves behind
everything related to his/her specific and unique nature, the incoming
new sentient entity inherits all memories of that nature on which he/she
builds his/her own unique pseudo-life. Due to the fact that he/she has no
conscious memories or information about any previous participants in
that line, he/she assumes that it was him/her who was in that line on
many previous occasions.
In the positive state, however, the situation is entirely different. There is
a full awareness about all unique former participants in that line and the
full recognition that whatever was inherited from them belongs to them
and is available to the new incoming sentient entities as a necessary
chain of continuous progression for the purpose of fulfillment of
everything contained in the aspect of that spiritual component which
rules both the global current cycle of time, the localized cycle of time and
the individualized cycle of time. Therefore, in the positive state the
concept of reincarnation into the same line has no reality and meaning.
So, as you see from this description, each cycle of time has many
imaginary lines of progression, each line having its own specific aspect
from the spiritual component which rules the cycle of time in question.
The corresponding factors to this line in your pseudo-worlds can be found
in the existence of various nations which have basically a common goal,
purpose, nature and functioning. They all have something very specific,
inherent only to them and no other nation. Whoever incarnates into such
a nation, inherits all its history that it had. Subsequently, the inheritor
follows the same line which is characteristic to that nation, contributing
to it his/her own unique and specific nature which is in accord with the
needs of the specificity of that nation.
Similarly, in the positive state, many societies exist which are situated
within their own imaginary lines where they fulfill their own purpose for
which they chose to be in those lines. As you see from this description,
the purpose for existence of such imaginary lines is to assure a
continuous progression on all levels of being and existence of My
Creation and its multiverse. Their function, basically, is to direct the
proper flow of My spiritual energies, stemming from the spiritual
components and all its aspects, sub-components and elements, released
by Me, and to provide all sentient entities an orientation point and a
subjective sense of being somewhere and somewhen in order to be able to
relate from their relative condition, state and process to My Absolute
Condition, State and Process. Such is the meaning of these imaginary
lines of progression. I hope this explanation will satisfy Heather.
Peter: I hope so, too. And I am thankful and grateful for this
explanation. And now to my question, if we may.
The Lord Jesus Christ: Yes, Peter, we may. There are several levels of
explanation of how it is possible to reconcile the seeming contradiction or
discrepancy between My statement that the negative state and human
life are unreal and only appear to be such, and the allegation that
sentient entities from both the positive state and the negative state
freely roamed on planet Zero and were seen by many, almost with their
physical eyes, so-to-speak. How is it possible if neither side had any
recourse of recognizing each other’s reality or pseudo-reality,
respectively?
First of all, as you remember, the wiring of the nervous system and the
physical brain of humans at those times (before and at the time of My
incarnation on planet Zero), was very much different. This was the
original arrangement by the pseudo-creators in order to enable humans
to perceive them and the inhabitants of the negative state so that they
could exert their influence on humans. The side effect of this setup was
that if you are able to see some events in the pseudo-dimension, by the
same factor, you will be able to have some limited ability to see
something also from the other dimensions. However, this side effect was
not considered to be a side effect by the pseudo-creators because they
were able to convince humans of that time that whoever they saw,
regardless of their nature, were from the very same dimensions, only
with a different purpose in mind. Also, they needed this arrangement so
that they could try to sway the members of My positive state to their
cause.
Secondly, the pseudo-creators of that time, by their original connection to
the positive state, were able, for a long period of time, (until My
incarnation on planet Zero), to maintain that connection, thus providing
some sort of bridge to the positive state so that some of its inhabitants
could appear to humans in order to see what was going on amongst them
and how the pseudo-creators proceeded with their goal and purpose.
Thus, by and through the pseudo-creators, the non-reality and illusion of
the pseudo-being and pseudo-existence of their pseudo-worlds for that
moment would become real for some selected members of the positive
state.
Thirdly, as you remember, I have always been maintaining My special
agents in your pseudo-world and in the Zone of Displacement, whose
special role was to function as a bridge, not only of translation, but, at
that particular time, also, as a means by which some members of the
positive state could come down and do whatever was necessary to do in
My services.
Fourthly, in the Old School, there was a division which was specializing
in the training of some carefully selected members of the positive state to
be able to see, to hear, to perceive and to participate in your pseudo-
world and the pseudo-worlds of the Zone of Displacement as if those
pseudo-worlds were real and sensible, in order to provide the necessary
balance between the forces of the positive state and the forces of the
negative state. This training was provided by these members of the
original group of the sentient entities from which group the pseudo-
creators originated.
And fifthly, as you remember, there used to be a special type of
intermediate world, which was a transitional and training ground for all
those who were about to be incarnated on planet Zero both from the
positive state, from the negative state and humans proper. Because that
intermediate world had some affinity to planet Zero, it functioned as a
certain type of mediator amongst all of them. By its means, it was
possible to apprehend the pseudo-reality and illusions of your planet and
all the worlds of the Zone of Displacement as real and tangible. All these
factors at that time served the purpose for balancing out the negative
state versus the positive state. At the present time the situation is
entirely different in all respects. But this is a different topic, not related
to the present discussion. Also, it is for a different time and not for now.
Therefore, I would recommend to finish for today and to continue in our
dialoging some other time.
Peter: Thank You very much for this lucid explanation and revelation.
The Lord Jesus Christ: You are welcome, Peter. Go in peace and have
a nice day.
Source: DIALOGUES WITH THE LORD JESUS CHRIST PART 1.