To read aloud
ONE HUNDRED AND SECOND DIALOGUE
September 8, 1999
Peter: Before going into asking questions posed by some of Your
representatives in Slovakia and the Czech Republic, I understand that
You would like to continue in discussion about the topics of the One
Hundredth and One Hundred and First Dialogs as related to the proper
apprehension of Your New Nature. I would be more than happy to yield
this time to You.
The Lord Jesus Christ: Yes, Peter, you are right. And I thank you very
much for your yielding this time for My input or further elaboration on
the issues raised in those two Dialogs. As you remember, we have given
an extensive definition of the term ‘Absolute’ which integrally relates to
My Absolute New Nature. If you carefully analyze that definition, you
will notice its two most important aspects. One is talking about the all-
encompassing nature of the Absolute, which is indicative of the fact, that
in that Absolute, nothing is lacking. This ‘nothing is lacking’ could give
someone the wrong impression that the Absolute contains also
everything inherent in the pseudo-nature of the negative state; that is to
say, that it is both good and evil — as some foolish pseudo-philosophies
and pseudo-spiritualities on your planet and in the Zone of Displacement
claim. What they are forgetting and not taking into consideration is the
fact that, as it was outlined in one of the European Dialogs, the negative
state and all its products and fabrications are illusions only and
appearances of reality but not reality in themselves and by themselves.
Because they are of such an unreal nature, for all practical purposes,
within the true reality, they don’t exist. Therefore, anything of that
pseudo-nature cannot be contained in the all-encompassing true reality
of the Absolute — My New Nature. Ascribing non-reality to the true
reality doesn’t make any logical sense.
However, as you know, one of the major thrusts of the negative state and
all its inhabitants, is to convince itself and everyone in its domain that it
is real and permanent. Thus, for a long period of time, it had been in the
business of deceiving people into believing that it is real and permanent.
And what is a better way of making that deception or subterfuge true if
not by proclaiming that the Absolute — Me, is the originator of both —
good and evil? That way, by the factor that something like that could
originate in Me, you assure your own realness and permanency. If this
were to be the case, then the negative state with all its products and
fabrications would be really real. This proclamation of the negative state
led many humans on your planet toward the establishment of all kinds of
pseudo-spiritual movements that propagate this outright falsity.
However, in the true reality of being and existence, which are the only
things that are always real and permanent, from their position, the
Absolute is all-encompassing, lacking absolutely nothing.
The second most important aspect of the above mentioned definition of
the Absolute is that, ‘at the very same time, the Absolute transcends all
of them.’ What do these concluding words of our definition really mean?
This statement reflects the fact that, because the Absolute is really
Absolute in all its aspects, it cannot be limited only to and by that which
is defined as all-encompassing, lacking absolutely nothing within Its
Nature. Thus, in this sense, the Absolute is more than all of that. But
what is that more than all of that? In the relative sentient mind, there is
an idea about this Absolute which tells this mind that the Absolute, in its
transcendence, contains within Its Nature something which either
cannot be named by any existing words, images, or pictures, or no
corresponding ideas are available or possible which could come even
remotely close to the understanding or grasping what the Absolute, in Its
totality, really Is. However, the sentient mind does know about this,
actually the most important aspect of the Absolute. It does also know
that in no way can this part of My Absolute be named by anything
available in the repertoire of the words, expressions, ideas, concepts, etc.,
which has been available at any given time or non-time up to this point.
However, there is another point to this aspect of the Absolute, which is
not subject to naming or understanding by any sentient mind. As it was
so nicely pointed out in Writings by Dr. Pieter Noomen, which contain
My meaningful conversations with him (page 346), that ‘it is the
unconditional guarantee that this part of Me also cannot be reached or
affected by the distortions and lies as My other names and aspects are.
What is not known cannot be denied or perverted.’ Should it be possible to
reveal or to convey anything from this portion of My Absolute Nature
(which is an utter impossibility!) by not having any proper grounds
on which the sentient mind could correctly define or determine what this
portion of My Absolute Nature truly is or what it truly means and
signifies, it would have no choice in the matter but to distort or falsify Its
meaning. In that case, by the factor of the particular dependency of its
life on that Absolute Portion, the sentient mind would cease to exist in an
absolute sense. And not only that, but, by the factor of
interconnectedness of all and everything, in the process of conveyance of
this distortion and falsity, everyone and everything else would cease to
exist as well.
Do you remember the statement in the Christian Bible about the
forgiveness of sins? And, in it, how it was stated by Me that all sins will
be forgiven but the sin against the Holy Spirit is considered to be
unpardonable and therefore, it cannot be forgiven? In the connotation of
this discourse, the Holy Spirit is that portion of the Absolute, which, in
its true Essence and Substance, cannot be named, apprehended,
understood or conceived by any sentient mind. The unpardonable sin
against It signifies that if any distortions and falsifications of this
Portion were to be possible (which they are not), it would lead to the total
and ultimate cessation of sentient life, both individually and all-
inclusively. So, not only would it be impossible to convey the true
meaning of Its Nature, but in not being able to do so, the sentient entities
are being forever prevented from losing their individualized and
personalized lives. These lives have a most direct relevance and
connectedness to this particular Portion of the Absolute.
The factor of the above mentioned transcendence would refute any
notion, which would lead someone to derive a pantheistic point of view
from our definition of the Absolute. The term ‘all-encompassing’ could
lead some people to make such a false conclusion — as is the case in
many instances amongst the philosophers and thinkers on your planet. If
you transcend something which is included in your all-encompassing
nature, you cannot be in your totality that something at the very same
time or in the very same state. Otherwise, you would be limited by that
something. The factor of limitation by anything would preclude your
being Absolute.
Take for example, your idea about creating or producing something. Let
us take your idea about building a house. You come up with a plan of
how that house should be, what it should contain, how functional it
needs to become, etc. Those are all your own ideas, contained in you. So,
by following those ideas, you build your dream house. The house stems
directly from you, and all its ideas are within you, and you are in your
house, and through its ideas in your mind, the house is in you, but you
are more than just your house, because you are not the house and the
house is not you. Your house fully depends on you for maintenance,
repairs, additions, or whatever it needs for its continuous proper function
but, nevertheless, you and your house are two different entities. Thus, in
all aspects of your nature, you transcend your house. You are
independent of your house.
From the above description you can clearly deduce how foolish and
inappropriate the notion of pantheism is. It doesn’t reflect at all the
reality of the relationship between the Absolute — the Creator and the
relative — the Creation. The above description can also give you an idea
of what it is to be Absolute and what it means to transcend everything
designated in our definition as the all-encompassing. Thus, it is not as
abstract or as intangible as it seems at first glance.
The other factor of the Nature of the Absolute, which makes it truly
Absolute and which totally and completely precludes the possibility of
the pantheistic view, is its absolute independence on anyone or anything.
If you depend on the house and the house depends on you, if you are the
house and the house is you, then you cannot be conceived as being
absolutely independent of anyone or anything. In your being and
existence, you would be dependent on the being and existence of the
house in the same manner as the house, in its being and existence, would
be dependent on you. Such an interdependency would preclude the
existence of the Absolute in any of its aspects. However, one of the major
characteristics of the Nature of the Absolute, is that in its own Absolute
Being and Existence, It is completely and totally independent of anyone
or anything. Whereas Creation fully derives from and is dependent on its
Creator, the Creator, in its Absolute Nature, doesn’t derive from His/Her
Creation and is in no way dependent on it.
Why are we talking in this particular Dialog about a seemingly abstract
and purely theoretical and impractical subject as the Absolute? Because
it has a direct relevance to My Absolute New Nature and the way it
needs to be understood by My representatives in order to establish on
planet Zero the right idea about Who I am and what My Absolute Nature
is all about. In order for the release of a totally new and different aspect
of My New Nature to take place, it is first necessary to dispel all and
every incorrect notions contained in the prevailing views, existing
amongst humans and all inhabitants of the Zone of Displacement, so that
by the means of their distortions and falsities, they would not
contaminate the incoming new aspect of My New Nature and impede its
proper understanding, apprehension and acceptance.
By these types of Dialogs, which deal with My New Nature, we are
building a foundation on which a correct and proper perception of My
New Nature is established. It will be utilized for reception of the new and
different aspect of My New Nature by everyone in being and existence
and pseudo-being and pseudo-existence. The reason why it is done from
your position, the position of planet Zero, and not from some other
dimension, is because with the maintenance of improper ideas about and
conceptualization of My New Nature in the sentient minds of those who
are or will be situated in the Zone of Displacement and/or on planet Zero
at the time of this release, they would distort and falsify the nature of
the aspect in question, and, by that factor, would continue to fuel the
pseudo-life of the negative state and human life, precluding the closure of
this cycle of time and the beginning of the transitional period.
The way you have to understand this problem is in the fact that, even
though some sentient entities reside in a state, place and condition which
was designated as non-state, non-place and non-condition, nevertheless,
because they do contain within themselves the true sentient mind, by
that factor they are connected to the true reality of being and existence.
By this connection, they keep their own subjective self-awareness as
being alive and living. But also, by this connection, they could transmit
incorrect, distorted and false ideas to the rest of the sentient entities in
being and existence, about Who I am and what My New Nature is all
about. And although within the positive state, none of the sentient
entities could be polluted and contaminated by such incorrect, distorted
and false ideas, nevertheless, they would be in a position of necessity of a
continuous repudiation of the idea in their mind that they may, if they
wish, by their own free will and choice, accept such incorrect, distorted
and false ideas as the correct and true ones; thus, for all practical
purposes, by accepting such ideas, they would reject Me in My Absolute
New Nature as the only Creator who transcends His/Her Creation.
As you know from The New Revelation of The Lord Jesus Christ, as
long as such an idea is maintained in the sentient minds, regardless of
where or when they are situated, the negative state and its end product
— the human life in its negative aspects, could not be eliminated. This is
the reason why we need to build a proper foundation in the most external
of the most external factor of the sentient mind, represented by humans
on planet Zero, on which the acceptance of proper, correct and right ideas
about My Absolute New Nature could take place and subsequently, be
transmitted to the rest of being and existence and pseudo-being and
pseudo-existence in an ascending manner. By the position of My
representatives on planet Zero, to whom all these facts are being
conveyed by the means of these Dialogs, and by My New Revelation in
general, such a foundation is being built and effectively established. As
you see from these facts, your positions on planet Zero have a multilevel
significance and function and by you, through you and with you, I am
preparing everyone and everything to receive, when everything is ready
and in proper position, the new and different aspect of My Absolute New
Nature. This is the major reason why we are spending so much time, and
will be in the future, on discussion about the issues of My New Nature.
And this is all that I wanted to bring to your attention today. You may
proceed, Peter, and ask your questions on behalf of My representatives in
Europe.
Peter: Thank You so much for this meaningful and important
elaboration. The question came from Boris Bella of Slovakia. He would
like to know if there is anything important for us, and for the current
phase of the ongoing shift, contained in the scene described in Matthew
26:36-41. For the clarity of our discussion, let me quote those verses in
the fullness of their content: Then Jesus came with them to a place called
Gethsemane, and said to the disciples, “Sit here while I go and pray over
there.” And He took with Him Peter and the two sons of Zebedee, and He
began to be sorrowful and deeply distressed. Then He said to them, “My
soul is exceedingly sorrowful, even to death. Stay here and watch with
Me.” He went a little farther and fell on His face, and prayed, saying, “O
My Father, if it is possible, let this cup pass from Me; nevertheless, not as
I will, but as You will.” Then He came to the disciples and found them
asleep, and said to Peter, “What, could you not watch with Me one hour?
Watch and pray, lest you enter into temptation. The spirit indeed is
willing, but the flesh is weak.”
The Lord Jesus Christ: By now, Peter, you know that, if this type of
question is asked, it means that it does have relevance to the present
phase of the ongoing shift and to your — My representatives — lives,
personally and individually. Let us take the mentioned text step by step
and let us see how it is applicable to your present situation. I came with
My disciples to a place called Gethsemane. Some say it was a garden of
Gethsemane. Of course, it wasn’t a garden in your particular sense. It
was an illusion of a garden but not its true reality. In general terms,
garden signifies all knowledge and its wisdom congregated in one state.
In this case though, this particular place was void of any true knowledge
and its wisdom. Coming to this place with all My disciples signifies
bringing into it something that in true reality it doesn’t have — My
Truth and all its derivatives (coming with My disciples).
However, because that place was secluded from the outside world, it also
corresponds to the state which has no proper connection to anything
positive. If you have no knowledge and no truth, you have nothing
positive in yourself. Because of that, places of this nature, such as, for
example, wilderness, deserts, etc., in addition to these types of so-called
gardens, also have a connotation of separation from everything Divine.
As you noticed, whenever I went to places of this nature, I prayed to My
Father; meaning, I was separated from My True Essence and Substance,
and anchored Myself, for that period of time, in My human nature. In
this sense, for all practical purposes, I became a typical human. The
place Gethsemane corresponds to this state. It enabled My separation,
and separation of everything represented by My disciples, from My
Divinity, in order to allow the final, and the most dire temptation against
Me to take place. A temptation of this nature could happen only to My
being a human and not God. This was in preparation for the ultimate
human experience, which doesn’t exist anywhere and anywhen else, of
the death of the human physical body and for My descent into the Hells.
It was also for the purpose of establishment of the fulfillment of the final
phase of My mission on planet Zero and My ultimate victory over the
negative state and the negative aspects of My human nature.
In your particular case, this scene points out the fact that you, as My
true representatives on planet Zero, are likewise entering the final phase
of your mission that you have from Me. Because this is the most decisive
aspect of your mission, it will also be the most vulnerable to temptations
by the forces of the negative state. All aspects of that portion of your
nature, which derive directly from the negative state, will be subject to
the most intense temptation by the renegades and their minions, and by
everyone else in the negative state. For that reason, an all-out attempt is
in the process of being made, to separate you from My aspect in your
nature and to anchor you into the human aspect of your nature which
can be more easily tempted and swayed with promises of the negative
state than the other aspects of your nature, stemming from Me.
That I said to My disciples, “Sit here while I go and pray over there,’
signifies placing everything in a certain position which would enable the
complete and total separation of My Divine from My human and My
human from My Divine so that I would be prepared for the beginning of
My last temptation, culminating in the physical death of My human
body. Thus, I put them aside, or told them to sit in one place, while I
went a little farther away from them in order to establish the state of
this separation and pray to My Essence and Substance — My Father.
That I took with Me Peter and the two sons of Zebedee (James and John)
to the place where I was to be in a state of total and complete separation
from My Divine and to find Myself only in My human nature, signifies
the need to maintain My human life by the factor of the spiritual
representation and correspondence of those three disciples, which enable
such life to continue in its function regardless in what a dire, desperate
and sorrowful condition it finds itself — love and good, wisdom and
truth, and positive works and faith. Only these factors can maintain any
form of life. For these reasons, finding Myself for that moment only in
human nature, as any other human, knowing what was awaiting Me, I
felt deeply distressed, exceedingly sorrowful, even to death.
This condition, that is to say, being only in the human skin, clearly
illustrated to all what it meant to be a human. It was a sorrowful, deeply
distressing and dying state which had no hope for anything in itself and
by itself and which therefore, had no choice in the matter but only to die.
Symbolically speaking, anything at all, which is of human nature, must
die first in order to truly live. By the factor of human death, death is
conquered and turned into true life. By the process of My dying, thus,
one of the most important factors for acquirement of true life for humans,
was eternally established. But they must die first in order to live. So I
also had to die first in order to give life to humans and to all who trapped
themselves in the negative state.
However, before accomplishing that, I had to illustrate all aspects of
being human and being in the process of dying. Dying was the last
temptation that I had to participate in, the same way as you all will have
to go through it. It will be your last temptation likewise. As a typical
human, I was afraid of dying and of everything that was about to happen
to Me. From that position I was praying to My Father, asking if He could
spare Me this horrid destiny. At the same time, by saying very clearly,
three times in a row, ‘Your and not My will be done,’ I surrendered My
humanness to My Divine Essence and Substance and by that factor,
boldly prepared Myself for everything that I needed to go through in
order to accomplish My mission successfully. By surrendering Myself to
the Will of My Father, I had effectively overcome all temptations and was
ready for everything that was about to happen. As you noticed, this
happened three times; and three times I found My three disciples asleep;
and three times I told them, ‘Watch and pray, lest you enter into
temptation. The spirit indeed is willing, but the flesh is weak.’
‘Three times’, in the discussed connotation, represent the state of
integration of all aspects of My human nature and, in the process, its
preparation for the unification with My Divine Essence and Substance,
which culminated in the acquirement and establishment of My New
Nature. In the case of My disciples, finding them asleep three times,
signifies their total separation from the representative function which
they had, and reversion back to their former condition, rooted in their
own typical human nature. This was necessary to establish in order to
make it possible for the negative state to enter and prepare humanity for
betrayal of all true spiritual principles as related to My True Nature.
Once you fall asleep, that is to say, once you disregard your spiritual
essence and substance (which means falling into deep sleep), by that
factor, you anchor yourself in your externals where nothing of true life
exists and because of that, everything in it is like being in a deep sleep.
In this particular case, the sleeping disciples represented humanity’s
condition in a state of a total separation and recession from everything
truly spiritual and from all aspects of the positive state, which are rooted
in love and good, wisdom and truth, and positive works and faith. The
lack of these most fundamental conditions of life, of any life at all, induce
the state akin to a deep non-awakeable sleep. In order to avoid this
condition, I had to remind them that only spiritual factors of life are able
to overcome any states of temptation and have any meaning, strength
and validity. All else of human nature, represented here by the flesh, is
weak and therefore, very much vulnerable to succumb to the temptations
of the negative state.
As mentioned in one of the previous Dialogs, it also signifies that if you
anchor yourself only in the human aspects of your nature, you will find
yourself in a perpetual state of temptation because human life, as well as
the negative state in general, is nothing else but a state of continuous
temptation. In your particular case, the scene described in the above
quoted verses, is a warning that, under presently existing conditions,
during the present phase of the ongoing shift, you have entered your own
final state of temptation which will continue until your recall. In the
process of this phase, an all-out effort will be made by the forces of the
negative state to put you to sleep and thus, as mentioned above, to
separate you from Me, or from that portion of your nature which is from
Me and in which I am present; as well as to separate you from your
intuition. If you are in a state of sleep, your intuition becomes dormant
likewise.
In what manner could this sleep in your individualized and personalized
life manifest itself from a practical standpoint? First of all, by
disregarding your ability to see things as they happen behind, and not at
or on the scene. In other words, by evaluating and validating everything
from a typical human standpoint. Secondly, by spending all your time in
activities which have no spiritual value or connotation. Thirdly, by
compromising your spiritual values, trying to please someone else (your
spouse, for example, who opposes your involvement in and with My New
Revelation) and by justifying and rationalizing your typical human
attitudes, behaviors, desires, cravings, wants, demands and needs that,
in themselves and by themselves, have no spiritual value and which are
transient and perishable. Fourthly, by forgetting to communicate with
Me and the members of your spiritual family and of the New Universe,
by means of reading, pondering about and meditating on everything
contained in My New Revelation. Fifthly, by inappropriate prioritization
of your everyday activities, giving preference to the non-spiritual and
non-positive activities which are put on the top of your list of priorities.
Sixthly, by spending most of your time, by your own volition, in the
company of those who are under the spell of the negative state, being its
trusted agents, when you are not required by any circumstance to be in
their company. And seventhly, by surrounding yourself with all kinds of
objects and subjects, living and non-living, which take most of your
energy and time so that you are too tired to devote any of it to the
spiritual factors of your life.
Now, these conditions, and many others like them, will put you to
sleep, spiritually speaking. The negative state will do everything in its
power to keep you in that sleep so that none of your precious energies
would be spent on your mission in My services. And this is the relevance
of the discussed event to your present situation. It fully applies to all of
you — My representatives. Therefore, in order to avoid falling into this
sleep, watch and pray (meaning read, ponder and meditate on My New
Revelation and regularly communicate with Me and members of your
spiritual families and the New Universe by whatever means are
available to you). For the spirit indeed is willing, but the flesh is weak.
Otherwise, you could end up like My disciples did, running away
following My arrest; or like Peter did, by betraying Me three times,
claiming that he had never known Me. And this is all that we need to
talk about today.
Peter: I thank You very much for this timely reminder.
Source: DIALOGUES WITH THE LORD JESUS CHRIST PART 2.
