ONE HUNDRED AND FIFTH DIALOGUE

September 15, 1999

Peter: Today I would like to bring to Your attention two questions received from Richard Schumert of San Francisco and one question from Olga of Miami, Florida (Olga Barba’s mother). However, before going into formulating these questions, I am humbly asking if You have anything to contribute this morning for our elucidation and enlightenment.

The Lord Jesus Christ: I would be happy to answer Olga’s and Richard’s questions. However, I would like to take this opportunity to talk about something else first. The first issue that needs to be brought to your attention, or to be reiterated, is something which is connected to the topic discussed in Dialog 102 as related to My temptation in the place called Gethsemane. As you remember from the content of that Dialog, in order to be tempted by the negative state, it was necessary for Me to separate Myself from My Divine Essence, called Father, and instead, anchor Myself in the human portion of My Nature. In that condition, I was able to experience everything that typical humans do: anxieties, fears, worries, doubts and similar mental states, so inherent in human nature. Why am I bringing these obvious facts to your attention at this particular time? There is a parallel process going on between My experience and what I was illustrating and demonstrating to the entire Creation, and what you, occasionally, experience in your own lives.

As you know, as My representatives, whenever you are in that function or role, you truly find yourself in the positive state and, during that time, you are in the positive state. In that state, you have no doubts, fears, anxieties, worries or any other similar unpleasant emotions or feelings. However, in the moment you come down from that state (symbolically speaking), you revert back to that portion of your nature which is typically human. In your human state, you begin to have doubts, you feel uncertain about anything and you behave, feel, think, relate, etc., as typical humans do.

Take for example, your personal situation, Peter, in this respect. One of your major problems is that you find yourself too frequently doubting about the verity of the claims of My New Revelation and whether it is truly Me who is dialoging with you or whether it is Me who gave you all those ideas contained in all the books of My New Revelation. Your doubts end, very often, in a state of anxiety, fear and almost terror that you might be misleading others and yourself. In moments like that, you anchored yourself in the human portion of your nature. Because of that, you feel, think, act, behave, relate, etc., as any typical human does. Or take for example, some of My representatives, who, as you learned today, have a tendency to mistreat their spouses who are likewise My representatives, but who respond to some situations not from being My representatives but from the position of their human nature. The paradox of this situation is in the fact that, if one spouse responds to something in the other from the position of his/her own human nature, then they both react to each other, not from Me in them, not from being My true representatives, but as typical humans. In this particular case, one spouse is sarcastic, cold, detached, ridicules the other, puts her/him down, is arrogant and exhibits similar negative, but typically human characteristics. The other spouse, in this case, responds with depression, anxieties, fears, feeling miserable, rejected, unwanted, desperate and doesn’t know what to do and how to proceed.

As you see from this example, whenever you respond to someone’s typical human attitude or behavior, not from being My true representative but from being a typical human, you open the door to the negative state to induce into your own behavior nothing but something which is not contained in the positive state. By the factor of your human nature, you place yourself into the midst of the negative state. Thus, you become negative. You succumb to the temptations of the negative state. On the other hand, Peter, when you are transmitting our Dialogs, or when you were transmitting other books of My New Revelation; when you are in the company of My other representatives, discussing important spiritual issues, you find yourself anchored in that portion of your nature which stems directly from Me. During that time, you have no doubts about who is the true Author of My New Revelation or about whether you are deceiving others or yourself. In times like that you are experiencing yourself as My messenger or My extension and process. You become truly who you are in your essence and substance without the human mask. This factor applies to all My representatives.

At this point in time, it is very important and crucial that you realize these facts and learn to respond to each other or to yourself only and only from the position of being My true representatives and not from the position of your human nature. You have been warned several times that, at the present time, the forces of the negative state are making an all-out effort to separate you from your role and position as My true representatives and permanently anchor you in your human nature. By succeeding in this effort, they disable your ability to perform your duties and responsibilities as related to being My representatives and instead, they will utilize your energies for their own negative and evil purposes.

If someone who claims to be My representative is still prone to fall into his/her human trap of mistreating someone by ridiculing, putting down, being sarcastic, inconsiderate, arrogant and mean to his/her own spouse or friend or whomever, then, by the factor of such behavior one relinquishes, during that time, his/her privilege of being My true representative. In that case, such a person removes himself/herself from being in the positive state and places himself/herself instead into the negative state. No matter how much such a person feels that he/she is right in his/her attitude toward the other; no matter how much justification and rationalization such a person would tend to offer for the rightness of his/her behavior; no matter how inappropriate the other person’s reaction and behavior was or is, there are absolutely no justifications or excuses for such a reaction or behavior. If this were to be the case with anyone of you, you would be strongly advised to amend your ways immediately and rectify this adverse situation by asking for mercy and forgiveness of that person to whom you behave like that, as well as asking for My mercy and forgiveness and for mercy and forgiveness of your own true self. By doing that, you will subsequently return to your role and position of being My true representatives. Of course, as always, only if you choose to do so by your own free will and choice.

The above discussed issue can be considered a practical one because it deals with the everyday behavior, attitude and position of all of you. The second issue, which I would like to discuss, is more of a spiritual- philosophical one. In this case, you will have here a Dialog which would contain both practical as well as spiritual-philosophical aspects of our discussion. This particular issue relates to the important topic of intuition. For some time now, Peter, you have been pondering about whether there is more to the ways you can verify any truth at all than just by intuition. Two days ago, as you were reading the Writings of Dr. Pieter Noomen, this question came to your mind again and you felt appropriately that it is time to deal with this issue during our dialoging. In one of the earlier Dialogs, we have already defined the term ‘intuition,’ both from the spiritual standpoint and from a typical scientific one. At this time however, the issue is not about the nature of intuition, but whether there is something more than just intuition available to the sentient minds for arriving at the truth of any matter.

Let us look at this issue from a somewhat different perspective. What are the methods by which the sentient mind can and may arrive at finding out whether something is true or not, or whether it is so or not? Depending on the position and placement of the sentient mind in the structural frame of Creation or pseudo-creation, the very first method is rooted in the sentient mind’s ability to be logical, analytical, intellectual and to possess a reasoning faculty. By the process of reasoning, logic, analysis and intellectual discernment, the sentient mind may come to the synthesis of the explored factors and make right conclusions about them. This important ability of the sentient mind stems from My Absolute External Mind, which I imparted on all sentient entities in order for them to be in a position to arrive at the right conclusions about anything at all by their own external mind. There is a corresponding factor here in play. As you know, the external mind of any sentient mind is in a corresponding position to My Absolute External Sentient Mind. That Mind generates the structural integrity to My Creation and to all its sentient minds. The natural structural integrity consists of logic, reason, intellect, rationality, analysis and synthesis. In this sense, you can say that, from the structural point of view, the way My Absolute External Sentient Mind operates, I am the Absolute Logic, Reason, Rationality, Intellect, Analysis and Synthesis in an absolute sense. From this Mind of Mine derives all knowable and unknowable laws, principles, order, elegance, harmony, cohesiveness and everything else by which and through which the proper function and maintenance of My Creation is executed.

Because of this corresponding factor existing between the Absolute Mind and the relative sentient mind, the relative sentient mind has the ability to deduce and/or to induce the right conclusions about any observable, as well as some other, phenomena. Unfortunately, it was this particular ability which was utilized for the purpose of activation and establishment of the negative state. Notice, please, that this happened in the most external position in Creation from the very external factors derived from My Very External Mind. Nothing of negative nature could come even remotely close for the purpose of its derivation from any other state and condition but by, through and of the means of the external mind. It is always the external mind which is in the position of being able to abuse anything contained in its reasoning repertoire. By the factor of this abuse, the external mind can justify, excuse, substantiate and rationalize at will any of its conclusions and positions about anything at all. This is how the sentient entities in the negative state and humans are able to effectively convince themselves about the righteousness of their cause. By this ability of the sentient mind, anyone can and may justify anything one wants.

Take, for example, the statistical correlation between some kind of cause and effect. Is the effect really the result of some kind of cause? Or is it incidental and accidental, not rising above the chance level? Any researcher who tries to measure such correlations, very often, gets the results that, usually, favor his/her own expectations. He/she can beautifully justify and prove that his/her point and/or conclusions must be right because of the results of his/her measurements. So, this factor becomes circular, because the expectations feed the results and the results confirm the expectations. No wonder that someone else who tries to replicate the results of some other researcher in this respect, frequently comes to entirely different conclusions. This is how the endowed abilities of the external mind can and may be abused, misused and improperly used by anyone. And this is how the pseudo-being and pseudo-existence of the negative state and human life are continuously being justified and rationalized.

At the present time, the only way you can get any right conclusions based on this particular method of exploration and verification, is by proper intentional and motivational factors, excluding all and any of your own expectations, projections and subjective needs and desires. If you approach by the means of this methodology anything at all for the sole purpose of learning the truth, for the sake of truth itself, for the sake of its real objective existence, this method can be very beneficial and useful. It can lead you to the discovery of real truth. Otherwise, you will arrive at only distortions and falsities.

The second method for discovery of truth and whether something is true or not; or whether it is so or not, is by means of intuition. Intuition, in its nature, essence and substance, transcends the first method discussed above. Or it precedes the logical, rational, intellectual, analytical, synthetic and reasoning processes of the external mind and then, subsequently, it utilizes them for further confirmation and verification of its own conclusions. This ability stems from the interior sentient mind (or intermediate sentient mind) which, in turn, gets this ability from My Own Absolute Interior Mind. During utilization of this particular method one turns oneself inward and seeks to find a so-called sixth sense which would indicate to him/her, beyond a shadow of doubt, whether something is true or not. There are various degrees and aspects to this particular method called intuition. Because it stems from My Absolute Interior Mind, in its very source, it has Absolute Mental Quality. This Quality generates Its nature to the level of any sentient mind relevant to each individual’s personalized and individualized makeup and to the specific nature of his/her unique mentality. Because each individual is inherently different and unique, so is the level of his/her intuition unique and different, giving it the nature of being of various degrees and levels congruent to the needs of each particular individual.

Due to the factor of very specific individualization and personalization of intuition, it cannot be misused, abused or perverted by anything of a negative nature. However, it can easily be blocked, repressed, suppressed, overruled or disregarded by its carrier. So, in order for the effectiveness of this method to be in place, you need to listen to it and follow its direction, overruling any desires of your external mind to disregard the voice of your intuition.

Under presently existing conditions on planet Zero, this method is the only one which is able to truthfully verify and confirm anything related to the truth, or anything else, for that matter. As you remember, in your intuition, My presence in you and with you, from the position of My Absolute Interior Mind, is the most intense and the most discernable. This was purposefully established by Me, in order to give humans a tool, which would enable them to bypass their external mind’s tendencies to distort and falsify things and then use its ability to rationalize and justify them by its pseudo-logic, convincing itself that it is true.

However, as you know, Peter, at the present time, under the presently existing conditions on planet Zero and in the negative state in general, this method was, in most of its components, deleted from their consideration. It was reserved only for My true representatives and for the covert members of My positive state, situated on planet Zero. Moreover, in order to sharpen their intuition, recently, I have released from My Absolute Interior Mind, a different aspect of intuition, related to that portion of their endowment which came directly from Me. This special type of intuition, or one of its many aspects, relates to your ability to read, understand, accept and apply everything contained in My New Revelation. From now on, anyone who will approach the reading of My New Revelation in any of its sources, if approached with positive and good intent and motivation, for the sake of learning, accepting and practicing the Truth, which it contains, will be endowed with this special type of intuition in addition to any other of its aspects. On the other hand, the rest of humanity and everyone in the negative state, is in the process of being anchored more and more in their external rationalization, justification, substantiation and pseudo-logical ruminations about the rightness of their pseudo-cause and thus, getting further and further away from anything intuitive and internal, thus, from anything which contains the real truth.

Now we are coming to the question whether there is something more than the above described two methods. Your intuition, Peter, was telling you that it is very much possible that there is more to it than just the first and second method for the acquirement of any type of knowledge and for recognizing, accepting and practicing the truth in all its aspects as related to anything at all. If the first method — logic, reason, intellect, rationality, analysis and synthesis — derives, in its original and genuine condition, from My Absolute External Mind; and if the second method — intuition in all its aspects and manifestations — derives from My Absolute Interior Mind, then it must be obvious that there is something which would transcend any of these methods and which therefore, would derive from My Absolute Most Within Spiritual Mind. And this is the truth of the matter. There are two important aspects to this third method. One is derived from the overall State and Condition of My Absolute Spiritual Mind. This one was initially and originally imparted on all inhabitants of the most within spiritual dimension of My Creation. This method of knowing has not been available to anyone else in other dimensions or to humans or to you, My representatives. Their and your position required a different approach. If all of you have had this particular method, the negative state, and the human life in all its aspects, could never have been activated and could never have been able to provide for all one of the most vital answers to the multiversal question about the nature of the other type of life other than the life of the positive state.

In this particular aspect, the inhabitants of that dimension apply their own natural and inborn insight which gives them immediate grasp, understanding, acceptance and practice of all aspects of truth, bypassing any logic, reason, analysis, synthesis and intuition. Because of their particular state, they have no need for any of those methods. They simply know whether something is true or not; or whether it is so or not without any input from logic or intuition.

The second important aspect of this method of knowing is rooted in that aspect of My Nature which was previously designated in recent Dialogs as My Absolute Core. As you remember, it is this Core which is unnamable, incomprehensible and unapproachable to anyone, no matter where and when they are situated at any given time. This particular aspect, up to this point, has not been available to anyone. So far, it has not been released. However, as you know, with the ending of this cycle of time, with the establishment of the transitional period before commencement of the next cycle of time and with the preparation of release of the entirely new and different Aspect from My Absolute New Nature, this method will become available at that time. The preceding energies of all these factors influenced your intuition, Peter, and that of Dr. Pieter Noomen’s, so that you could arrive at the conclusion that there must be something more in this respect than just intuition and logic, reason, intellect and all their other aspects by which they search and arrive at the truth.

Now, the full nature of this method, or any of its aspects, is premature to reveal. The only thing that can be said about it at this time, is that it will be the most special, the most unusual, the most beautiful and the most inspiring combination, integration, unification and application of the above described three methods, giving birth to the fourth method which will transcend all and everything available up to that point. At this point in time, under the presently existing conditions of your positioning and role, as humans, you have no possible ideas, words, concepts, images, pictures or whatever, which would be able to give you even the most remote notion about what this method will be like. The reason for this is because it is integrally connected to the release of a new and different aspect of My Absolute New Nature. Because it will be entirely new, it cannot be comprehended from the position of the old, or from the position which precedes that new. You would have to be in the new position already in order to have some notion about the true nature of the new method of knowing. You are still far away from that new position. However, by this revelation, you are being prepared for that new to be established in your lives when the time comes. It will not be before your recall.

This is all, Peter, that I wanted to contribute today. You may go ahead and formulate your questions on behalf of the enquirers.

Peter: It is interesting to note that last night I was asked to inquire about the meaning, if any, of multiple births, such as, for example, twins, triplets, or even sextuplets; and this morning, when I scanned my daily newspaper, I found there an article titled “An increase in multiple births.” This factor is interesting in that, it talks about the desire of older women to get pregnant and, for that purpose, using fertility drugs. As a result, they get multiple births. Talk about coincidences, isn’t it? Any comment on this phenomenon? This question came from Olga of Miami, Florida.

The Lord Jesus Christ: Well, Peter, by now you know very well that no coincidences exist. In the past, when, for the purpose of balancing out the negative state by the positive state, and the negative state balancing out the positive state, the birth of twins, and very rarely of triplets or even quadruplets, was by the influence of both the positive state and the negative state. As you know, twins can be either maternal or fraternal. At those times, sometimes, there was an agreement amongst those who wanted to incarnate on planet Zero either from the positive state or from the negative state, respectively; or by some ideas of two sexually engaged typical humans. They agreed, for some important spiritual reasons, to share the same genetic, familial, environmental, social and physical factors under which they would be born. One of these reasons was to illustrate and demonstrate the factor of spiritual and mental differences of one’s spirit and one’s soul. The issue here was to show the total independence of the spirit’s and the soul’s unique characteristics on any physical, genetic, familial, environmental, social or any other external factors. The way you have to understand this statement is in the fact that, no matter how externally similar the twins or triplets, or whoever were, even to the point that no one could distinguish them physically and externally by their physical appearance of who was who, nevertheless, in their spirit, soul, attitude, behavior, likes and dislikes, they were totally different.

This fact was necessary to illustrate to all in My Creation and pseudo- creation, in order to refute the notion that one can be exactly the same as any other individual. This was a tour de force of the negative state, trying to convince everyone that individuality is nothing and commonality and uniformity is everything. All those multiple births that were initiated from the negative state, were in an attempt to establish such a proof. The forces of the negative state were hoping that by enabling such multiple births, they could somehow accomplish such commonalities and uniformities and by that factor, they would be able to convince themselves and their followers that they were the true originators of their brand of pseudo-life and that I had nothing to do with it.

Moreover, this phenomenon demonstrated My Absolute Nature in that, My Life, and Energies of that Life, from which any possibility of any life, including the human life and the pseudo-life of all in the negative state was/is possible, was/is manifested in infinite varieties of presentations in the unique forms and contents of any sentient entity, and therefore, it is never redundant, no matter how much it looks the same, externally.

However, as you know, at the present time, the factor of balancing is no longer in place. No one is born on your planet from the positive state. Neither are any typical humans born any longer. The only births that are still possible are either from the negative state or by the negative ideas of two humans. Because the factor of pseudo-winning of the negative state on planet Zero is in place, an all-out effort is made by the forces of the negative state to populate your planet as soon as possible with its agents. For that reason, human women are infused with an irresistible desire, craving, and almost lust, to have children. This desire, Peter, unfortunately, you were witnessing even with some of those in Europe who read and accept The New Revelation of The Lord Jesus Christ. For those women who have been infertile up to this point, the forces of the negative state, through their human scientific minions, came up with a fertility drug, which makes it possible for them to have multiple births. Still, the unique individuality and personality is preserved in all of them, no matter what. Of course, the purpose for this situation is no longer in trying to prove the above mentioned point. It is solely for overpopulating your planet with the negative state’s own agents so that the lifestyle of a purely negative nature could be established.

One interesting factor of this pseudo-winning is in the fact that the resources of planet Zero, needed for maintenance of any life forms on it, are dwindling very fast. If they are gone completely, then no life could be supported on your planet. In that case, the negative state’s pseudo- winning would be, at the same time, its own demise because the parasite would destroy its host on which it is feeding. Therefore, the negative state would die likewise. This is one of the possible scenarios of how the negative state could end. As you see from this particular scenario, by its foolishness, stupidity and insanity, the negative state is capable of destroying itself from within itself without utilization of any outward force on the part of the positive state. And multiple births on your planet are an excellent contributory factor to this self-destruction. And this is all that can be said in response to Olga senior’s question.

Peter: Thank You very much for Your meaningful answers. May we proceed now with Richard’s questions? Also, in the meantime, I received an additional request for clarification of the concept or term ‘Fire’ which was used in description of Your Absolute New Nature. What is its positive connotation as related to Your Nature?

The Lord Jesus Christ: Yes, Peter, you may.

Peter: Richard Schumert is asking about the meaning and significance of single cell life forms, such as, bacteria, microbes, germs, viruses, amoebas, protozoans and similar microscopic and submicroscopic entities. His second question is about Moses. Why was he not allowed to cross the river of Jordan, no matter how much he asked You for forgiveness for his one and only blunder?

The Lord Jesus Christ: The meaning and purpose of these single sub- life forms can be derived, in a general sense, from what was revealed about the animal life forms in the Eighty Fifth Dialog. These single cell or sub-cell life forms are correspondences of the most basic, sub-elemental components of thought processes of the sentient minds. In the positive connotation, originally they derived from My Absolute Thought Process as very sub-elemental and basic particles of that Process needed for the maintenance and proper function of all ideas of life in all its manifestations. In the relative sentient mind’s thought processes, they are correspondences of their own needs to take care of the sentient environment in a functional whole in order to preserve the continuous flow of proper energies for the healthy and normal run of all aspects of life — from the most basic, sub-elemental to the most intricate macro life forms. These aspects of the sentient mind’s thought processes, in the process of their projection to the most external or physical dimension, appear as various microbes, bacteria, and similar single cell life forms, that help maintain proper balance of the living organism. The consequences and outcomes of these sub-elemental aspects of the sentient mind’s thought processes are generated on the least conscious level of that mind.

In the negative connotation of their meaning, as the originators and activators of the negative state begin to produce the negative thought processes on their very elemental and sub-elemental level, they gave rise to something which, in its essence, was directed toward the destruction of anything positive and good. In most instances, these sub-elemental products of the thought processes are unconscious. Originally, there was a tendency to imitate everything the way things were done in the positive state, only with an opposing purpose. Thus, in order to maintain the pseudo-life in its negative connotation, the way the true life has been maintained in the positive state in its positive connotation, by the factor of opposition and separation from anything positive, the sentient mind of the pseudo-creators, on its sub-elemental level, began to produce all necessary ingredients for such maintenance. As a result, through its corresponding factors, in the physical dimension of the Zone of Displacement and on planet Zero, these particular sub-elemental aspects of thought processes, appeared as life-threatening microbes, bacillus, bacteria, viruses, retro- viruses, and similar destructive single-cell sub-elemental organisms. The production of these very negative and destructive types of sub-life forms was originally utilized as a weapon for poisoning and destroying the atmosphere and sphere of the positive life forms. The originators and activators of the negative state, in their effort to establish a totally different lifestyle than that of the positive state’s, were hoping to utilize these sub-elemental thought processes, through their corresponding projection into these sub-life forms, for eradication of anything positive from their domain.

Unfortunately for them, their effort in this respect backfired in the sense that once anything of this nature is produced, by its unruly nature, it has a tendency to multiply by the law of geometrical progression and subsequently, it becomes uncontrollable. And not only that, but it continuously mutates into some different combinations which are almost impossible to manage or eradicate by any known means. This factor clearly illustrates the very nature of the negative state. As opposed to the nature of the positive state, everything in the negative state is disorderly, unruly, unlawful and unmanageable. If you want to establish a lifestyle which is to be totally and completely opposing anything contained in that other life with which you don’t want to have anything in common, you have no recourse but to become everything that is not positive, orderly, lawful, beautifully managed and elegant. This factor is reflected very well in the behavior of the sub-elemental single sub-cell life forms produced by such a negative design, stemming from negative and evil thought processes.

On the other hand, in comparison with destructive ones, the positive sub- elemental sub-life forms, stemming from positive thought processes of the sentient minds in the positive state, don’t have the same tendencies as the negative ones. In their own environment and function, they behave orderly, lawfully and elegantly, helping the living organism in its proper function. This fundamental difference in the behavior of these two sub- entities, clearly illustrates the true nature of the positive and good thought processes and the true nature of the negative and evil thought processes. And this is all that can be said about this issue at this time.

Now, to the question about Moses. As you remember, Peter, whenever you were reading that portion in the Bible which dealt with My refusal to allow him to enter the so-called Promised Land, located beyond the river of Jordan, you always felt very bad for Moses and you were almost angry at Me for not allowing him to have the privilege of entering that land. As you know, that was a typical human stance on your part. In other words, you were looking at the whole situation as it was played out on the scene and not behind the scene. But what was really happening behind the scene? The answer to this question can be found in to what Moses’ position and role corresponded at that time. First of all, as you are aware, for those times, Moses was the most humble person on planet Zero. In that he represented My Absolute Humbleness, Modesty and Humility. Secondly, you can consider Moses as being My very first and the only representative on planet Zero at that time. Thirdly, he was the very embodiment of My Absolute Divine Law and Order by which the life of My Creation is maintained and runs its proper course. Fourthly, Moses represented both My Divine Essence and Substance as well as My Future Human Nature. His behavior, actions, mode of thinking, relating and conveying things were all representative of the nature of the positive state and My Absolute Nature in his relative condition. In essence, Moses represented the totality of all Divine Laws, Principles and Establishments by which any functional and positive life is made possible. This was a representation of the reality of the positive state.

On the other hand, don’t ever forget with what kind of people Moses was dealing. As you remember, from his final song that he was to teach the children of Israel, shortly before I took him away and hid his physical body from them so that they wouldn’t make an idol for worshiping out of it, he very vividly described their nature as the most stubborn, unruly, stiff-necked, disobedient, hard-core, inconsiderate, arrogant, and spiritually totally blind and fully externalized. Moses told them very straightforwardly that they were chosen by Me not because they were the best and most deserving amongst all other nations, existing at that time on planet Zero, but, in fact, because they were the worst. On them, My infinite patience, long-suffering, mercy and forgiveness could have been demonstrated and illustrated the best.

At the same time, however, Moses was also a human, with all aspects of the nature of being a human. In that he illustrated the difference of what it is to be a typical human and what it is to be My true representative. In the role of being My true representative, his behavior was from the very Divine which he had in him from Me. In that position, he acted and behaved as the most positive and kind person. However, when he was provoked by stiff-necked and disobedient people in his ultimate ability to keep his role as My true representative, he slipped, for a moment, into his human nature and became furious at the children of Israel, not believing that I would be able to produce drinking water from the rock in the middle of the desert. So, instead of once, he struck the rock twice, hoping that no water would be coming from it. Instead, the water came out of the rock in unusual abundance. What are the spiritual correspondences here? The rock, in this particular connotation, represented the natural truth as manifested in its faith. Water was pure spiritual truth that is made available to anyone, based on the acceptance of the natural truth and having faith in its existence. Striking into the rock twice means denial of this substantial and life-giving faith and not believing in any spiritual truth. That nevertheless, water poured out abundantly from the rock signifies that My Divine Truth Lives and is available to everyone no matter how much it is denied and disregarded.

The consequence of Moses’ unfaithfulness in this particular case was that he denied himself the possibility of entering the Promised Land or, in this case, to the positive state, because you can enter there only by means of the acceptance of pure spiritual truth through and by your personal faith into its power and potency. Moses represented, in this case, the consequences of rejection of Divine Truth and anchoring himself in the negative aspects of the typical human nature. Don’t forget to what kind of people he was representing all these facts. In his case, any deviation from bringing about the consequences of his actions, would set up a very bad example for those people who were very evil in their nature. If I were to listen to Moses’ request, and allow him to enter the so-called Promised Land, by not showing clearly the consequences of his wrong attitude, I would forever reinforce the evilness of the children of Israel, and they could never be saved or converted to the positive state. For the sake of their future saving, I and Moses agreed to play out this important scenario. Moreover, I and he knew very well, that the so-called physical Promised Land was not the real positive state but only an appearance of and correspondence to the positive state. Otherwise, the children of Israel wouldn’t end up as they did, following their occupation of that land. Instead, after I, in a moment of time, showed Moses all aspects of the Promised Land, I took him to the real one situated in the positive state of the spiritual world. So, personally, he didn’t suffer any harm or he wasn’t deprived of anything at all. All he was deprived of was putting up further with arrogant, stiff-necked and stubborn people and their unbearable disobediences and temptations to which they were continuously exposing Me and him. And this is all that can be said about Moses’ case at this particular time. More on Moses will be in the next Dialog (106).

Now, the issue of the term “Fire” as related to My Absolute Nature. It should be very much obvious by now what the positive connotation of fire is. Take for example, your Sun which is a huge ball of constantly and unceasingly burning fire. By it, the life on your planet is made possible. The warmth and light of your Sun provides all life on your planet with the necessary conditions for that life to flourish. I am the Absolute Sun of My Creation. The Fire of My Love and its Wisdom continuously radiates and emanates warmth and light to all living, breathing and existing entities by which they are enabled to live, be alive and to properly function. This is the positive connotation of the term “Fire.” Even in your everyday life, fire has many positive connotations. You cook your meal with fire; you boil your water with it; you heat your house; you utilize fire in many industrial and commercial enterprises. Of course, as anything else, fire also has its negative correspondences, utilized by the forces of the negative state for their negative and evil purposes. But even in that connotation, if you look at its meaning behind the scene, fire has a purifying effect, burning out all impurities, and setting up a new condition for building something afresh.

Have you ever experienced fire burning in your heart or chest? What about the fire of love, compassion, etc. or, in the negative sense, the burning fire of hate? The Fire of My Love ignited the very life of My Creation and all living and breathing in it. This is the reason I also can be called as Absolute Fire; and in this sense, Fire is Me and I am Fire. Does it answer your question, Peter, on behalf of Betty, Heather, Ardyth and Leilani?

Peter: Well, I have always known the answer to this question. To tell you the truth, I was a little surprised that they could even come up with the need for having the answer to something which is so obvious. But, after all, if it was asked, obviously it needed clarification because someone else would have the same question. Is there anything else today?

The Lord Jesus Christ: Yes, Peter, it is so. This clarification about the term “Fire” was needed to be clarified. And no, nothing more today. Go and rest now.

Source: DIALOGUES WITH THE LORD JESUS ​​CHRIST PART 2.

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