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September 19, 1999
Peter: For some time now several people have been asking me the same
question. At first, I ignored it as idle curiosity, not seeing in it any
particular relevance. However, after the same question was asked by a
lady doctor from Ostrava, the Czech Republic, I decided to present it to
You. You consider whether the question has any merit and multiversal
significance. Of course, as always, before formulating that question, I
would like to ask You if You have anything to contribute first. During my
morning meditative walk it was indicated to me that You would like to
make some further comments about or elaborations on the issues
discussed in the One Hundred and Fifth Dialog.
The Lord Jesus Christ: Thank you, Peter, for giving Me preference to
talk about something which was contained in the previous Dialog, as well
as about some other issues. Before going into your particular question,
and determining whether it has any merit, or whether it would be useful
and beneficial to receive an answer to it, we need to elaborate on three
issues. Two of these issues relate to something which was contained in
the previous Dialog. The third issue relates to the current condition of
the conservative, far right branch of the pseudo-creators who are
presently in the New School.
Let us begin with the two issues, discussed in the previous Dialog. The
first issue relates to the existence of sub-elemental sub-cells, or single
cell life forms, both on the side of the positive as well as on the side of the
negative state, respectively. It would be difficult for your human mind to
fully understand how the process of occurrence of these singular sub-life
forms really takes place in the true reality of their manifestation.
However, let us present to you the following theoretical construct, which
may bring it closer to your understanding of how this process develops or
evolves. Remember, it is only a theoretical construct, and not the true
reality of the process itself.
Once any idea occurs in the sentient mind’s thought process, it
immediately proceeds toward its realization. The process of occurrence of
that idea in itself produces tremendous energies. In the state of
occurrence of that idea within the sentient mind, there is a general
purpose for which that idea is born. The energies resultant from the
occurrence of that idea proceed as they spread out from the center, or its
core, to the circumference in a circular manner. You can imagine
something like throwing a piece of rock in a horizontal manner on the
surface of a big body of water. As it hits the surface of that water, it
creates circular motions that spread out in larger and larger circles all
the way to the edge of the water. Something similar also happens in our
case.
Now, the occurred idea, and energies produced by the process of its
occurrence, consists of a nucleus or core which occupies the central, or
the most inward position in the sentient mind or, better to say it, in one
of its thoughts which is very specific and unique to the occurring idea
and its content. Around this central nucleus or core, many layers are
formed which could be considered as the mentality and body of that idea
and its energies. As the idea proceeds to its realization, it penetrates all
dimensions and their respective levels where it is manifested in the form
of various sentient and non-sentient life forms. The closer to the core of
that idea or to its nucleus, the more advanced the life forms are
produced.
On the spiritual level, if that idea occurred in the thought processes of
someone who is situated on that level, it produces unique sentient life
forms. As its energies spread out throughout the spiritual dimension,
they produce various consequences, results and outcomes congruent to
the quality and content of that idea. The further away from the core of
that idea its energies spread out, the less sophisticated non-sentient life
forms are initiated. One aspect of that idea relates to the environment
and its proper maintenance in order to provide the sentient mind with
the most suitable conditions for its unique actualization, realization and
creative effort. As a positive side effect of this particular aspect, various
components appear that are very helpful in accomplishing this goal of
maintenance. On the very elemental and sub-elemental level of this
particular idea and its specific energies, or at the very remote state from
the state of the very core or central nucleus of that idea, certain minute,
sub-microscopic qualities are produced which give rise to the spiritual
sub-cells or spiritual single cell life forms which are utilized as a
contributory factor to the proper maintenance of the sentient organism
and its environment. These particular spiritual sub-cells or spiritual
single cell life forms are, in actuality, the minutest or most sub-
microscopic particles of sentient energies of the sentient ideas of the
sentient thought processes. Thus, they are the minutest possible
components of the sentient thought itself. This is the reason we call them
spiritual. In this case, on the spiritual level, they don’t produce concrete
and physical forms. However, their continuous and unceasing occurrence,
with their very specific spiritual energies, give an impetus to such
concrete and tangible physical sub-entities to appear — by means of
specific sentient mental processes of the sentient mind on the
intermediate level.
As this particular idea, and its specific energies, enters the intermediate
dimensions, from its very core or central nucleus, it likewise produces all
sentient mental processes imparted on the newly created sentient
entities, situated in this dimension. Through and by it, this idea,
together with its tremendously potent energies, produces all its
consequences, outcomes and results, relevant to the nature and quality of
the content of that idea, as applicable to the needs of the intermediate
dimension. As it spreads out in this particular dimension, in the process
of its spread, it gives an impetus to the appearance of all traits,
characters and aspects of the specific mental components, which, in turn,
by their own specific energies, resultant from their occurrence, give birth
to all other non-sentient mental life forms and their respective
environments. As a positive side effect of this process, on the sub-
elemental level of these mental processes, sub-cell mental energies begin
to radiate which give an impetus to the occurrence of sub-cell or single
cell mental life forms, which, by the impetus of their original spiritual
quality and content, give rise to the appearance of concrete and tangible
physical single cell and sub-cell life forms on the level of the physical
dimension.
In the moment this idea, with its many times compounded and
multiplied spiritual and mental energies, enters the physical dimension,
it goes through the same process as described above with the only
difference that on this level all its consequences, results and outcomes
become externalized and physicalized. From the very core or central
nucleus of this idea, now in its physical aspects, physical external life
forms appear from the most physically, mentally and spiritually
advanced sentient life forms to the most elemental, sub-elemental, single
cell and sub-cell concrete life forms. As a positive side effect of this
process, on the minutest possible level of these physical energies, all
types of microbes, amoebas, protozoans, and similar sub-life entities are
produced, which are subsequently utilized for the proper maintenance of
the living organism and its environments. In between the most advanced
life forms and the most elemental and sub-elemental forms, a myriad of
other life forms are produced, such as, for example, animals, birds, fish,
insects, etc., with all their respective habitats, relevant to their needs for
the purpose of their proper function for which they were allowed to come
into their own being and existence. The most external or outward
components of the process of the occurrence of this idea and its energies
in the sentient mind, as their positive side effects are spread out, in the
environmental considerations of its nature, they produce all organic and
botanical life forms as seen in positive and beneficial fruit trees, flowers,
shrubbery and all species of plants in general. From the thoughts of their
needs, the energies of such thoughts produce for these organic and
botanical entities a proper environment in which they can strive and
reproduce, contributing, in turn, to the ecological balance and
beautification of the living environment needed for the sentient entities
and their creative effort.
In the positive state of My Creation, because only positive thought
processes take place, and only positive ideas are being generated from
sentient minds, only positive, beneficial and useful life forms are
produced. They are the specific consequences, outcomes and results of
these thought processes and their continuously and unceasingly
occurring ideas. This factor reflects the Absolute Condition of My
Absolute Sentient Mind and Its Absolute Nature, which unceasingly and
continuously produces and generates only Absolutely Positive Ideas and
their Absolutely Positive Energies and which enables similar processes to
take place in all relative sentient minds.
In the negative state and its Zone of Displacement, and in the majority of
cases on planet Zero, only negative and evil thought processes take place
and only negative and evil ideas are being generated. As they spread out
through their own pseudo-dimensions in the same manner as described
above, they give rise to life forms which are prevalently negative,
poisonous, harmful and destructive, not only to true life but also to their
own pseudo-life. Such is the nature of any negative and evil thought, idea
or concept. You can consider it as their own negative side effect which
produces all kinds of sub-elemental, sub-cells and single cell life forms,
which devour indiscriminately anything living and breathing, including
their own producers.
Originally, upon the first step of activation of the negative state, its
activators had no idea what such thoughts, ideas and concepts could
produce, or what their results, consequences and outcomes could and
would be. First of all, they needed to learn how to produce such negative
and evil thoughts, ideas and concepts. Once they discovered how to
produce them, as they were producing them, in the process of that
production, tremendous energies were generated which, first all,
established all kinds of regions of the Zone of Displacement and all its
Hells, spread out in the same manner as described above; and secondly,
they led to fabrication of all kinds of negative and evil sentient entities
who produced their own negative and evil thoughts, ideas and concepts
which resulted, in the process of their own spread, in the appearance of
negative types of animals, birds, fish, insects and negative types of plants
and all other negative, poisonous and harmful botanical and biological
entities all the way to the very negative, poisonous and destructive
bacteria, microbes, viruses and similar sub-cell life forms.
On planet Zero, because it also contains in its environment My positive
representatives, either covertly or overtly, because of their primarily
positive, good and beneficial thoughts, ideas and concepts, you can find
both types of life forms, which are in continuous struggle with each
other. The negative life forms constantly attack, kill and devour the
positive ones, and the positive ones are in the role of defending
themselves and all living organisms as well as their environment against
the negative ones.
The problem with this setup is in the fact, that once any thoughts, ideas
or concepts are produced in the sentient mind, either in a positive or a
negative sense, by their occurrence they generate tremendous energies
which drive the quality and content of such thoughts, ideas and concepts
to spread out in all directions (symbolically speaking) throughout all
dimensions and all their respective levels. At the moment this process
begins, it cannot be stopped by any means. The multiversal law requires
that their occurrence must proceed to their becoming their own true (in
the positive state) or pseudo-true (in the negative state’s domain) reality
so that they could and would produce all their consequences, outcomes
and results.
So, as you see from these facts, the causative factors of all and everything
in being and existence, as well as in the pseudo-being and pseudo-
existence, as well as on planet Zero, are the activities or thought
processes of the sentient mind. In the absolute sense, and in their purely
positive connotation, the causative factors of all and everything are the
activities or thought processes of My Absolute Sentient Mind. Because
the basic and fundamental structure of any relative sentient mind
derives from the basic and fundamental structure of My Absolute
Sentient Mind, the relative sentient mind may and can produce anything
it wants by its own thought processes, its ideas, elements of thoughts and
concepts. But by the same universal law, anything produced by the
sentient mind not only results in its independent consequences, outcomes
and results, but, by its feedback effect, it strikes back on its creator or
fabricator, whatever the case may be, and causes the sentient mind to
bear the consequences, outcomes and results of his/her own production —
be they positive or negative, respectively.
The multiversal inter- and intra-connectedness and interaction of all
sentient entities, as well as all positioned in the negative state and on
planet Zero, is such that initiation and production of any elements of
thoughts, ideas and concepts has influence on all and everything.
Fortunately for the positive state, by its separation and complete
insulation from anything initiated and produced in the negative state, no
one there is affected by anything negative, bad or evil. Because of the
negative states’ pseudo-reality, illusions and appearances, whatever is
initiated and produced in it, falls away from the positive state, without
causing any harm or problems to anyone in it, and subsequently strikes
back on the initiators and producers of such negative, bad and evil
thoughts, ideas and concepts so that they can bear the consequences of
their adverse activities.
However, within the negative state, because of this inter- and intra-
connectedness of all and everything, you can easily have an epidemic of
bad things happening to all who are in a position of the reception of such
negative, bad and evil thoughts, ideas and concepts. On the other hand,
on planet Zero, the presence of such negative and evil thoughts, ideas
and concepts, has a widespread effect not only on all humans and agents
of the negative state but also on My overt and covert representatives,
who may suffer from their effects whenever they function not from the
position of their being My true representatives but from the position of
their human nature. However, even if they function from the position of
their role as My representatives, because they carry on themselves a
typical human body, it is subject to the influences of such negative, bad
and evil thoughts, ideas and concepts and to everything they may
produce and establish. This is the reason why even My representatives
may get infected and effected by and suffer from all those zillions and
zillions of microbes, germs, bacteria, viruses, retroviruses, etc., or by
whatever they have there, which are the very negative side effects of all
those evil, negative and bad thoughts, ideas and concepts produced by
the sentient minds in the negative state.
This is how everything is created, produced or fabricated. Why are we
talking about this complicated subject for your human mind? On planet
Zero, by the majority of humans and by all scientists, there is a tendency
to see everything independent of the sentient mind’s activities and its
thought processes. For them, it looks as if everything out there, be it
organic, inorganic, sentient, non-sentient, zoological, botanical, geological
or anything else, developed and established itself without any connection
to the thought processes, ideas, concepts, or whatever, of the sentient
mind. This is the infamous view of looking at all events happening and
on everything else living, breathing, organic or inorganic, as it is on or at
the scene. On the other hand, the above described procedure of the
occurrences of all and everything is looking at them as it has been, is and
will be happening behind the scene. The difficult subject of this discourse
is for your own education so that it can help you learn to look at all and
everything as it is behind the scene. It will help you ascertain and
understand everything in your life and the pseudo-life of the negative
state in general and human life in particular, the way it really is and not
the way it appears to be. Thus, it will contribute to your ability to avoid
accepting distortions and falsities related to anything which is being
presented to you on planet Zero. In an ultimate sense, it will contribute
to the establishment of a condition in human life, and in the negative
state in general, which will effectively eliminate the accursed position of
humans and all other creatures and beings in the negative state, to look
on everything from the position of their externals as being independent
of their sentient mind. Thus, it will put responsibility for all happenings
in sentient and non-sentient life, in all its forms and manifestations,
where it belongs — on the sentient mind’s thought processes and ideas,
thoughts and concepts generated by them, whatever their nature may be.
And this is all relative to this particular issue.
The second issue that needs a little further clarification is the issue of
why Moses was not allowed to cross the river of Jordan — as discussed in
the preceding Dialog. As you remember, Moses was asking Me to allow
him to lead the children of Israel into the so-called Promised Land. I told
him to stop bothering Me with his request. Well, the words I used at that
time were not exactly “bothering Me.” Instead I said to him not to
mention that issue to Me again. But for all practical purposes, they could
sound to you as not bothering Me again. Can I be bothered with anything
at all? Of course not. But we were dealing here with a very important
illustration of how not to look at things. Again, the issue is looking
behind the scene. Moses’ request to Me was from the position of his
external mind or from the position of his human nature. That position
sees everything as it is on or at the scene. And what does he see from
that position? He sees that there is a Promised Land which is the real
paradise or, in this case, which is the positive state. But is this reality or
only an illusion or appearance of reality? Externally, it looks like reality
itself. However, internally, it is only a correspondence, or, in this case, a
physical representation of reality itself or, in this case, of the positive
state.
So, what would happen, if, under those conditions, I would listen to
Moses’ request and allow him to enter the illusion or appearance of the
positive state? By that factor, being in the externals, or seeing that Land
from the position of his externals, he would wrongly assume that it is the
real positive state and not its spiritual correspondence. What kind of
example would he set up for the children of Israel in that case? Don’t
forget that their nature was the epitome of the most externals of their
external collective mind. They had no concept of anything internal or
truly spiritual. So, being in that position, if someone like Moses, who was
My only true representative on planet Zero at that time, would enter that
Promised Land, he would lock up the children of Israel into their
external condition for good and forever. In that case, they would deny
that anything truly spiritual exists at all and, at the same time, they
would consider the external life, and the life in the Promised Land, as
well as the Promised Land itself, as the true positive state beyond and
above which nothing else exists. In that case, not one of the Children of
Israel’s clans could ever be saved. Moreover, a real danger from that
permission existed also for Moses himself.
Consider this: Moses was a representation of the true spiritual state
rooted in his internals where My Divine was present in him. However, he
was asking Me from the state of his human nature, or from the state of
his externals, to permit him to enter the so-called Promised Land. If I
were to permit that to happen to him, I would lock him up likewise in the
state of his own externals or in his own human nature. By that factor,
Moses would have no choice but to consider his human nature and its
external mode of functioning and perceiving reality as the true internals
and the true spirituality; that is to say, he would assume it to be the true
and the only reality. In the moment he would do that, he would lose any
connection to Me, the presence of My divinity in him would be removed
and he would cease to be My only representative. Do you really believe
that he would want this to happen? Absolutely not!
What happened here was that it was necessary to establish an important
illustration and demonstration to all in My creation, who were very
carefully watching My interactions with Moses and his behavior, as well
as the behaviors and reactions of the children of Israel, of how the
situation was being set up for clearly distinguishing the true reality of
being and existence from its corresponding factors as they appear on or
at the scene. Do you realize what kind of danger existed at that time if I
were to go along with Moses’ request? By allowing him, from the position
of his externals, and at the same time from the position of My Absolute
Nature, to enter the so-called Promised Land, I would eternally establish
an upside-down position in My entire Creation. By affirming his position
and the position of the so-called Promised Land as the true and the only
reality of the positive state, I would definitely and irrevocably place the
illusion and appearance of reality as the only reality, and the only true
reality as an illusion and appearance. All inhabitants of the positive
state, in that very moment, would have no choice but to consider
themselves unreal, living in illusions and appearances, and those in the
negative state and on planet Zero, as the only ones who have the true
and real life. It would be a deception on the multiversal scale. In that
case, all inhabitants of My positive state would commit existential
suicide. By denying Moses’ request, I firmly and convincingly established
the line between what is real and what is only an illusion and
appearance of that real. That way the reality of the true life of everyone
in the positive state was eternally reconfirmed, and the illusions and
appearances of the other life were reestablished and their claim to
become real was denied. And this is the way it was supposed to be.
This discourse can again be considered as a good example of how things
are if you look upon them behind the scene and not as they are being
played out at or on the scene. And this is all that I wanted to contribute
to this particular issue.
The third issue that needs to be touched upon at this time is the
situation in the camp of the far right branch of the pseudo-creators. It
concerns both those who are in the New School as a result of their
conversion to the positive state as well as those who are not yet at that
point. Those who are in the New School and to whom some of My female
representatives were assigned in order to learn the truth about
femininity, love, affection and equal value of all principles of femininity
and masculinity, have now learned their lessons and consequently, their
attitude in this respect is dramatically changing. In this respect, your
interactions with each other, the interactions of My female and male
representatives on planet Zero, are instrumental in this process. As you
change your interrelationships to the true positive mode, treating each
other with love and respect, so are the pseudo-creators doing that
together with you. And vice versa: As they change in the positive
direction, so are you enabled to do the same. This is the result of your
synergetic work with them. We’ll talk more about this issue sometime in
the future when the time will be more ripe to go deeper into the meaning
of this collaborative effort. For that reason, Peter, go ahead and ask your
question.
Peter: I am somewhat reluctant to do so because the answer to that
question should be obvious to every reader of Your New Revelation,
especially of the Third Chapter of The New Revelation of The Lord
Jesus Christ. It concerns Your disciple Peter, and the mode of his death.
It is alleged that he chose to be crucified on the cross in an upside-down
position because he didn’t find himself worthy to be crucified the same
way as You were. Is there any significance or message for us in that
event? I know the answer to this question but people are asking and
asking, so here it is.
The Lord Jesus Christ: You are right, Peter, they should know the
answer from the above mentioned Chapter in My New Revelation. As is
obvious from that Chapter, Peter was representing the entire Christian
movement or the entire Christian Church in all its religious forms and
sects and what their fate is going to be. So, his choice of death was
indicative of the ways of how that movement will be developing. As you
know, the Christian Church, in their doctrines, reversed the order of the
multiverse and distorted and falsified My Divine Truth. The external
rituals and forms of worshiping they put on the top (feet on the top) and
the internals, and the true spiritual factor of life, rooted in My Divine
Love and Divine Wisdom and My Absolute Freedom and Independence,
they placed on the bottom (head on the bottom). By doing that, they
destroyed any spiritual, or any other meaning of anything related to the
positive state and My True New Nature, as well as to My Old Nature.
Thus, they established on this planet, as well as in some other regions of
the Zone of Displacement, a dead spirituality which has no relevance
whatsoever to anything at all the way things are in the true reality of My
positive state and its spirituality. In other words, they crucified Me, in
Peter, once more. And this is the true meaning of Peter’s choice of death,
apart from his own personal and individual reasons. At this time,
momentarily, nothing more needs to be said about this event. I would
suggest now to finish it for today. Go in peace and take care of some
other pending business.
Peter: Thank You very much for everything You revealed to us today.
Source: DIALOGUES WITH THE LORD JESUS CHRIST PART 2.