ONE HUNDRED AND EIGHTH DIALOGUE

September 24, 1999

Peter: To tell you the honest truth, I am approaching this particular Dialog with great reluctance and trepidation. The issue which You would like to address may cause problems to some of the readers. I am very much afraid that it may turn some readers off, discouraging them from reading these Dialogs further or even entirely rejecting Your New Revelation. As you see, I am considerably blocked from proceeding further.

The Lord Jesus Christ: Yes, Peter, I understand your human predicament. You don’t want to be rejected and even more, you don’t want any reader of these Dialogs to reject My New Revelation or to stop supporting it by whatever means available to and preferred by them. Let me tell you, and all readers of these Dialogs, something important. Whatever will follow, in no way is it for the purpose of condemning, judging, rejecting, turning off or hurting anyone in any way. Instead, it is for the purpose of clarification, enlightenment, understanding and seeing things behind the scene so that an opportunity is given to everyone involved for the appropriate amendment and correction of their insights and the way they have perceived and accepted some other persons’ roles, positions and assignments, being under their influence or considering them to be what they, in the true reality of their function, are not. Also, to give a very feasible opportunity for these persons’ function to change and accept them into the new role of becoming My representatives on planet Zero. Of course, all these needed corrections and amendments have to be made by all involved only and only if they choose to do so by their own free will and choice, recognizing and accepting the fact that they do need to make them or that some of them do need to recede from their present negative role and function and accept from Me a new one.

The important point here to realize is that you have entered a very crucial time in the history of humankind and in your own role and position. In order for everything to proceed the way it should proceed in accordance with My plans, it is very important that everything and, most importantly, everyone in your perception and understanding is recognized as who/what they truly are and what their original purpose was for becoming who/what they truly are and for accepting the role and position in which they presently are finding themselves.

In other words, in order to proceed further, you need to make things right and correct all inappropriate perceptions about anyone or anything. The issue and the need here are to recognize the truth of the matter and to accept it on face value, regardless of how you feel or think about or consider someone or something in your own mind; and regardless of what your current relationship with those persons is.

Consider this factor: What could happen if you continue in believing and accepting someone or something to be who/what they are not? In that case, you would be accepting outright falsities and you would have a totally distorted view about those persons’ roles and positions. If, in all other aspects of your life and attitude you are on the right track, but if, in relationship to some other persons you hold to the incorrect view about who they are and what their true role in all of this, or in relationship to My New Revelation is, then, in that case, by means of holding on to this inappropriate view, you would become a target for the renegades and they would begin to imperceptibly influence your life, and they could sidetrack you from your proper spiritual path and from continuing to be My true representatives. Because of this very realistic danger, we need to talk about this issue at this particular time, even though you, Peter, are so reluctant to go into it, anguishing and being miserable about the need to do so.

Well, at each junction of something new and different coming into focus at all levels of being and existence, as well as at all levels of pseudo-being and pseudo-existence, everyone is put into a position of choice by their free will — either accept the need for change, and subsequently and accordingly change, by removing from their mind and life any possible inappropriate views, perceptions, thoughts, feelings, or whatever they have in this respect; or reject the need for change and continue to hold on to what they thought was right and proper, even though it was not so in any aspect of its manifestation. Unfortunately, by the nature and law of any choice, it bears its consequences, outcomes and results. Now, this is being said not as a threat or some kind of imposition in order to force you into choosing this vital change, but it is said solely for the good of your own life.

Having said these preliminary warnings, we may proceed toward the discussion of what this is all about. However, before going into a concrete example of the discussed issue, we need to precede it by its history. This history will be, to a certain extent, a reiteration of what was revealed before in the Corollaries… and in some of the previous Dialogs. We need to repeat some of it in order to build a foundation for the understanding of what really happened a few years ago with you, Peter, and with some others who broke away from you at that time or from whom you needed to dissociate yourself for some of your own important spiritual reasons. This will be looking behind the scene and not as it happened at that time on the scene.

As you remember so well, when the pseudo-creators returned and took over the entire Zone of Displacement and planet Zero, two things happened at that time: First, they had noticed that certain humans didn’t behave, act and live their lives the way they were supposed to as any other humans, the way they were fabricated by the pseudo-creators. This fact aroused their curiosity and they decided to observe, as well as to experiment with this particular brand of humans. These humans were all, in some way or other, connected to My New Revelation. The major shock they experienced upon their return was from the fact that it was possible that something like The New Revelation of The Lord Jesus Christ existed on planet Zero at all. The shock was about its straightforward literal meaning which didn’t contain any hidden, secret information which would make it impossible to understand anyone from the position of their external human mind, from which position all humans function and which is the only one available to them. The pseudo-creators didn’t care at all about My Old Revelation, as recorded in the Christian Bible, for example, because it was written in pure correspondences, the true meaning of which was eluding everyone. As a matter of fact, they liked for humans to have these so-called Holy Books, because humans have been taking everything in them literally, and not spiritually and correspondentially. By such an approach, humans were kept in distortions and falsities of the meanings conveyed by those books. This assured their continuous presence in the negative state or, at least, being under its influence.

And yet, to their greatest dismay, they discovered the written form of this New Revelation which, for the first time in known history, was talking or revealing the truth of the reality of the positive state, as well as of the negative state, as well as related-to-them spiritual, mental and external matters, not in some kind of obscure, convoluted, complex, hidden, disguised or secretive, puzzling and riddle type of language as the Old Revelation did, but in an understandable external language for all who read it. And not only that, but that some humans, upon reading it, were able to understand it, to accept it and to live it as pure truth revealed directly by Me. As you remember, the assumption was that no human could do so on his/her own without some kind of spectacular internal experience which would bypass their external human mind.

It was very much shocking for the pseudo-creators to realize that someone like you, Peter, who had nothing special and unusual in his inner repertoire which would enable you to see Me and hear Me directly and which would give you all that pertinent and truthful information, was chosen by Me to be the transmitter of My New Revelation on the multiversal and in an all-inclusive level. This was something unthinkable. What was most puzzling for the pseudo-creators in this respect, was that your ways of coming to all this unusual, meaningful and truthful information, were paralleling their own ways, the ways of pure logic, reason, intellect, deduction, induction, analysis and synthesis without any other available means which would make it easier and more convincing for you to arrive at all this information. The pseudo-creators incorrectly assumed that by such purely scientific means, which they utilized in their own experimentation and search for the Absolute Truth, it would be utterly impossible to arrive at any correct, right and truthful conclusions about spiritual and internal matters. This was especially difficult for them to understand in view of the fact that they purposefully limited the human mind in its ability to properly utilize such methodology for discovering the real truth about anything, and not only about inner, spiritual matters.

And yet, here you are, sitting in your room, or in your backyard, or in front of your computer, writing about all these things without any spectacular, pomp-and-circumstance type of input by the means of My materialization before your eyes so that I could dictate to you directly what to say and how to say it. And not only that, but, and this is the most surprising fact of all, whatever you have written so far or whatever you are writing at any given time, it is pure Truth coming directly from Me. This fact was the most mind-boggling for the pseudo-creators, which kind of forced them to do some of their own experimentation and manipulation, both on you, Peter, as well as on some other carefully selected readers and practitioners of My New Revelation.

At the same time the pseudo-creators, at that time, had difficulties accepting the fact that not only you, Peter, had this ability, but that many other readers of My New Revelation were able to read it, understand it, accept its principles and practice them. As they were observing and exploring all of you, it was at that time that they discovered your ‘peripheral’ wiring which made you different from regular human beings. When they discovered that, they decided to perform special experimentation with your minds. We’ll talk about it in a moment.

However, even more puzzling and surprising for the pseudo-creators was a discovery that so many human females were able to understand, to accept and to practice everything contained in My New Revelation. That males were able to do so didn’t have such a great impact on them, although this fact was also surprising, because the males’ mind was naturally inclined to use logic, reason, rationality, intellect and similar factors which, in their view, human females didn’t possess in the same degree as males. As you remember from previous Dialogs, one of the major thrusts during the initial activation of the negative state, by which the negative state was able to be established, was separation and split of feminine principles from masculine principles and masculine principles from feminine principles. In the process of this separation, femininity was put into a subservient, degrading, less valuable and less significant and needed position than masculinity. This was a necessary arrangement if the activation of the negative state were to succeed. As you remember from those Dialogs, with love, goodness, kindness, affection, positiveness and similar characteristics of femininity, to continue having them in an equal to and a dominant position with masculinity, the activation of the negative state would not be possible. Therefore, women and their position were one of the major targets of restructuring by the pseudo-creators.

This factor was also reflected in Christian philosophy, based on the teachings of Paul and his Epistles, as well as on the teachings of Islam and other pseudo-spiritual philosophies and their respective religions, which prohibited women from participating in any important decision- making factors of spiritual, political, cultural and social life. Even at the present time, in some Islamic nations, this abomination continues to be one of the major factors of their lifestyle. After all, this is how the human lifestyle was originally established by the pseudo-creators. As you see, it still has a very strong impact on the lives of many in all human societies and countries and not only in Muslim countries.

So, when the pseudo-creators saw these women who not only were able to read and accept My New Revelation, but, in some ways, very often, they were able to intuitively understand it even better than some men, they became so puzzled and so curious about this unusual phenomenon that they decided to do some of their own experimentation, observation and testing on both women and men connected to My New Revelation. Most of these efforts, taken by the pseudo-creators, although not all of them, eluded the attention of those who were under scientific scrutiny of the pseudo-creators. In other words, they had no conscious awareness that they were being experimented upon. Again, we’ll speak about this issue in a moment.

The second thing that happened upon their release and take over, was that the rulers of the Hells, who were put in charge following the lockup of the pseudo-creators, and who suddenly found themselves stripped of their power, rule and dominion, rebelled against the pseudo-creators and became the renegades, considerably complicating the entire situation. Now, the renegades, in their effort to get back their position and power, and in their competitive position toward the pseudo-creators, became determined to do their own experimentation, testing and observation but with an entirely different purpose in mind.

And here comes the difficult part for you, Peter, to write about. Who, how and what were the subjects of this experimentation, observation and testing and what was the role, position and degree of participation of those who were under the scrutiny of both the pseudo-creators and the renegades; and what were their results, outcomes and consequences for all involved? Also, what was the major purpose of this experimentation, observation and testing on the part of both the pseudo-creators and the renegades at that time?

The pseudo-creators wanted to determine the following facts: What was it in the human mind of those connected to My New Revelation that made it possible for both women and men to be able to understand it, to recognize its truthfulness and accept its principles into their lives? How much and to what extent were they different from any other humans in this respect? At the same time they wanted to determine the following: How different, if at all, was the perception, understanding and the mode of arriving at the proper and right conclusions about the verity of My New Revelation for that of women as compared with men? No other specifically malicious purpose was on their mind.

The far right wing of the pseudo-creators also added to their own design an additional purpose for their brand of experimentation, observation and testing. Not having enough confidence in the ability of typical humans to sustain any acquired new knowledge and understanding, and live in accordance with its principles, especially of something like The New Revelation, the ideas of which went against everything known to humans during their turbulent and violent history, they made a wager with other wings of the pseudo-creators’ clan. They were curious about how long it would take for these humans, and especially for females, to be sidetracked from or to entirely relinquish their devotion to and continuous acceptance of everything contained in My New Revelation?

And how long it would take for some human females, connected to My New Revelation to trigger in them an inborn, irresistible, almost lustful desire to become pregnant and to have children, despite the fact that they knew so very well that the only types of children who could be born were coming from the negative side? Also, how long it would take to stop you, Peter, from continuing in transmitting anything further related to My New Revelation and for you to revert back into your typical human nature which would force you to give up your role and position as the multiversal transmitter of My New Revelation or even to denounce anything contained in My New Revelation? They said to themselves, “If we could manipulate their minds, as well as their roles, positions and everything they have; and if we could implant into them some different ideas than those contained in The New Revelation; and do it under the disguise that those ideas are coming from The Lord Jesus Christ or from someone in His/Her positive state, particularly from any members of their true spiritual family, then, how long would it take for any of them to fall into this trap and start believing in the righteousness of their cause and gradually, to denounce The New Revelation as outdated and no longer having any true meaning for the present time, with the exception of reflecting the historical course of events?”

The far right branch of the pseudo-creators made a bet with the other ones that it wouldn’t take that long to accomplish this goal. If they were to succeed in proving their points, then, in that case, all of them would have to conclude that no actual and significant differences exist between the followers of My New Revelation and all other humans. In that case, their acceptance of My New Revelation was superficial, without any internal and lasting impact on their lives and they still succumbed to their human nature which forced them to revert back to their so-called natural state in which they see things the way the original pseudo- creators wanted them to see or understand.

On the other hand, the renegades’ purpose in their own brand of experimentation, observation and testing was entirely different. By the time they recognized that the pseudo-creators had lost any desire or need to establish the rule of the negative state over all of My Creation, and that their purpose of activation of the negative state was an entirely different one than what the renegades thought it to be (for their true purpose, see Dialogs 89 and 90), they decided to destroy you, Peter, personally, and to corrupt, to break up and to pit against each other all those connected to My New Revelation. The renegades recognized that the major danger for their continuous rule and for the indefinite preservation of the pseudo-life of the negative state, was in My New Revelation and in the position and role of My Representatives (at that time, the agents of My positive state).

So, you had here two parallel efforts, going on approximately during the same time but in a different realm and with a totally different purpose. In your particular case, Peter, from the very beginning of your life on planet Zero, the forces of the negative state were relentlessly trying to destroy you, even to kill you or, at least, to corrupt you or influence you by all available means in order to deter you from your mission. Later on, they were sending all kinds of people to your workshops, which you held at the University of California, as well as to your home, as your patients and pseudo-friends for the purpose of misleading you and sidetracking you from your role and from the main purpose of your life. However, even though in some external sense, materially, for example, they temporarily and superficially succeeded in their effort in this respect, it never lasted too long before you were able to recognize the danger and reject all their efforts in this respect. For that reason, to the greatest disappointment of the forces of the negative state, those people fall away very fast from the circles of your friends and students.

However, as time went by, and as more and more was revealed to you by Me, and in the moment you finished the writing of The New Revelation of The Lord Jesus Christ, upon the return of the pseudo-creators and establishment of the opposition in the form of the renegades, many more cunning, effective and sophisticated ways were devised by them to accomplish their goal in this respect. Before the release of the pseudo- creators, all those efforts were made by the renegades, who at that time had not been in the position of the renegades but in the position of the rulers of all the Hells.

So, how would the experimenting and testing be designed for testing you, Peter, as well as those connected to My New Revelation who were selected for that purpose, and for proving the conservative pseudo- creators’ hypothesis or wager? How would they go about it in order to find out if they are right or not?

In the first step of their endeavor in this respect, they carefully and very thoroughly studied the genetic, physical, psychological, familial and environmental history of all those connected, in some way or other, with My New Revelation. This history was available to them from everyone’s stored memory cache, from their conception to the time of the beginning of the experiment. At the same time, they looked into the possibility that some of the members of The New Revelation might be former or even current agents of the negative state, who were either converted to the positive state by means of My New Revelation or who attached themselves to it for some of their own ulterior reasons; or who came to it so that, either covertly, or even overtly, they could pollute, distort and falsify it; and for the purpose of corrupting or misleading those who were typical humans or even those who were incarnated originally from the positive state.

If they were to detect that some of the followers of My New Revelation were former or even current agents of the negative state, in that case, they would also have access to their pre-history in the place and state from which they incarnated on planet Zero. From the personal archives of these agents, stored in that pseudo-world, they could discover the original purpose for their incarnation as well as all their strengths, weaknesses and problems which they could utilize in order to sway them back to their former negative condition, state and role. As far as those who came from the positive state were concerned, in their case, they would carefully study and analyze their personality makeup, their human psychological, physical, social or any other problems, their weaknesses, vulnerabilities, relationships, attachments, habits and similar factors which could be effectively utilized in order to sidetrack them or even to corrupt and mislead them into believing something which would not be coming from Me but which would be assumed as coming from Me, because the experiment was designed to be conducted in My Name, and any false ideas implanted into their minds would be considered as ideas coming from Me.

The issue here was to find out how long it would take for those who were originally of the positive nature, and who incarnated on planet Zero from the positive state, but who were/are burdened by a typical corrupted and corruptible human nature, to detect or to recognize that what was presented to them as coming from Me was, actually and factually, coming from the negative state (either from the pseudo-creators or the renegades). On the other hand, if they could find anyone amongst the followers of My New Revelation who originally came from the negative state, or who were attached to it for the wrong reasons or with improper, or even negative or evil intent and motivation, whether they were consciously aware of this fact or not, then they could utilize them as a resource and means, by putting them into an elevated position of the speakers of either the pseudo-creators or the renegades (of course, as always, in My Name), from which position they could exert influence on those who, for some reason or other, because of their own personal problems or some other needs, could more easily be sidetracked from their proper spiritual path and who could be put into a position of neglecting My New Revelation and its transmitter and instead, listening to those negative agents, considering them now to be My chosen ones.

At the same time, one important aspect of this design was putting an emphasis on the role of females in order to test their assumption that females would be more easily influenced in order to be in the role of My alleged speaker rather than males; but also, to see if some males could be swayed likewise by such a female setup. Here the assumption was that, if the followers of My New Revelation have the ability to recognize and to accept a full and indisputable equality of femininity and masculinity than males, then, from the position of their human nature, they could easily be convinced that the female-speaker is really My messenger and because of that, they would gladly listen to her and follow her bidding or, at least, consider whatever she would say to be the words of God.

In order to have an equal representation on both sides — female and male — the ideal situation would be if the pseudo-creators, and in their footsteps, the renegades, could find at least one female and one male who originally came from the negative state, or who were still agents of the negative state without knowing or being aware that they were such agents; and whose major role and assignment was to get involved with the people of My New Revelation, now My representatives, in order to disrupt, to confuse, to mislead and to negatively influence anyone involved in and with My New Revelation (again, without their being consciously aware that this was their major role); but who would be convinced, without a shadow of a doubt, that they were/are, in fact, an integral part of My New Revelation and that they were/are devoted followers and practitioners of its principles as well as of Me — The Lord Jesus Christ.

If they could find such a couple, especially if the female part of that couple was giving and given an appearance of being very loving, kind, radiant, angelic, positive, meek and lovable; and if the male part of the couple would be giving and given an appearance of being very assertive, intelligent, logical, rational, a good speaker, seemingly wise and making much sense and likewise lovable, then this couple could be utilized very well for their purpose. With such a couple, the possibility of misleading and sidetracking other followers of My New Revelation or falling into their trap would be much greater than with someone else.

The welcomed pseudo-positive side effect of this effort, should such a couple be found, would be that by their successful effort, they would discredit you, Peter, as the only true transmitter of My New Revelation; and that others, who would now be listening to this couple or at least to one of them, would reject you or stop associating with you, considering you either being taken over by the negative state or no longer being the transmitter of My New Revelation. However, in order to discredit you, it would be necessary to convince some females, or even males for that matter, that, from that point on, The Lord Jesus Christ was choosing to speak through a female (the female part of the hypothetical couple), and therefore, you, Peter, are out on green pastures (symbolically speaking).

So, this was the original experimental design. In the process of their thorough search, and in the process of studying historical and pre- historical material of all connected to My New Revelation, to their greatest delight, they were able to find a couple, both suitable for that purpose, and some other sensitive and vulnerable individuals, who were from the positive state but who were willing to listen to someone else due to misunderstanding of the concept of the infinite varieties of individualized and personalized approaches toward spiritual issues and life issues in general. It was assumed by them, that in applying such an approach, it was possible or feasible to deviate from the principles of My New Revelation and establish their own brand of spirituality (pseudo- spirituality, in fact). In such an assumption was hidden a spiritual danger because any deviation from the principles of My New Revelation leads one into the acceptance of the pseudo-principles of the negative state. This confusion stemmed from an inappropriate application of the principles of individualized and personalized understanding and application of My New Revelation and My Absolute New Nature as opposed to deviation from them. To individualize and personalize something within the scope of My New Revelation means to be in a personal and individual application of My New Revelation. And this is spiritually appropriate and a highly desirable approach. However, to deviate from it, means to reject its principles, replacing them with distortions and falsities of one’s own design. Remember that!

However, the issue here in this respect was to find out how long it would take for My representatives (at that time, the agents of My positive state), to recognize this important distinction and to return to the proper understanding and conceptualization of all principles of My New Revelation and what they are all about. Also, who would be the first to recognize this deception or subterfuge — My female representatives or My male representatives; or both, simultaneously?

At the same time, the question was: Would any one of them, who fell under the influence of that couple or at least one member of that couple, be able to recognize and to accept the painful fact of who, in reality, that couple was, or what their true role was in this setup by the forces of the negative state; or, after recognizing their mistake (if they would!), although they would return to My New Revelation, would they still consider that couple, or at least one of them, to be My representatives; thus, holding to the wrong idea about their true nature and about their true mission in this respect?

Now, from our position, the recognition and acceptance of the true reality of this fact regarding the true identity of that couple and regarding their true role and mission, doesn’t mean at all that they are being condemned, judged, rejected, written off or expelled from our awareness. It only means that you need to learn to see things as they are behind the scene so that you may avoid laboring under the false impression about who is who or what is what. Otherwise, you would give a great opportunity to the renegades to invade you by utilizing the results and outcomes of this experiment and what it produced. No other purpose exists for this Dialog and what is revealed here. Also, don’t forget, that by revealing these facts, we are giving again and again a great opportunity for that couple themselves to, first of all, recognize and accept these facts about who they are, what their true mission is; and, secondly, as a consequence of that, to relinquish their negative role and assignment and become My true representatives on planet Zero. By their tremendous resources, talents, gifts and abilities, they could become great assets to our cause in the process of elimination of the negative state. At the same time, by this revelation, we are giving a great opportunity for those who are connected to My New Revelation but who still continue to be under the influence of one or another or both of that couple, considering them to be who they are not, to get back on the right track from which they were sidetracked by them and to purify and cleanse themselves from their negative influence.

Once the pseudo-creators discovered that couple, they proceeded with their experiment and testing. The first step in this respect was to bring that couple together. So, they stirred the male in question to become interested in The New Revelation and to request all the books written by you, Peter. Following the reading of My New Revelation, he was stirred to undertake its translation into his native language (Russian). Because of that, you invited him for a visit to Santa Barbara, and decided to give him financial support via the TNR Foundation, so that he could devote all his free time to nothing else but to his work on the translation. When he arrived in this country, at one point in time, you introduced him to the female in question. It was amazing to see how fast they connected and became, what you could call, consorts. In the moment they got very closely involved with each other, things about them and around them began to change and, from your position, Peter, their attitude, behavior, ideas, and everything else were gradually and perceptibly deteriorating, becoming more and more questionable and negative.

At that point in time, the pseudo-creators’ effort, and later on the renegades’, was primarily in testing, experimenting and planting all kinds of strange, unusual and confusing ideas into the female with eager support and help from the male. Gradually and slowly, in the process of this experimentation, both the female and the male were completely and totally taken over by everything which was infused into them by the pseudo-creators, and later on, by the renegades. Because both of them identified themselves with whatever was implanted into their minds, I, as the true Lord Jesus Christ, was replaced with a false one and all members of their true spiritual family were replaced with false ones likewise. From that moment on, all their actions, behaviors, attitudes, ideas, or whatever they acquired, were directed toward undermining the truth of My New Revelation, as well as your credibility, Peter, as its transmitter, replacing it with distortions and falsities under the banner of My Name and that of My positive state. Because of their seemingly very loving, kind, gentle and wise attitude, several members of My New Revelation, including some of those who were very close to you, Peter, fell under their influence, giving them spiritual, mental and financial support and dropping you and the TNR Foundation from that support.

In your particular case, Peter, very soon, you became very uneasy about the whole situation and therefore, within yourself you began to question the verity of their claims and behavior. However, not wanting to hurt anyone, and being under the influence of your closest ally, through whom I frequently spoke with you, you continued to doubt your feelings and your intuition in this respect and you suppressed them as inappropriate and ego-driven concerns as if you were jealous that I had decided to drop you as the transmitter of My New Revelation and give that role to the female in question. However, following a very vivid and convincing vision that you had about that couple, especially about the female, it became obvious to you that they were taken over by the forces of the negative state. For that reason you had taken steps to rectify that situation. You had sent out a letter informing everyone about that situation (that letter was included in the Corollaries…), and, most importantly, giving both that couple and everyone who fell under their influence the opportunity, to amend their ways and to get back on the right track. Because they refused to do so at that time, you felt that you needed to distance yourself from them so that everyone of them would have an opportunity to establish their own understanding and insight of what that situation was all about.

Once your letter went out, the conservative pseudo-creators lost their wager as far as you were concerned, Peter. Simply stated, you didn’t buy into their scheming. However, the renegades have continued to harass you, inducing all kinds of anxieties, doubts, fears, sadness and similar negative emotions into your mental condition in order to keep you in a state of despair, futility and misery, thus, preventing you, for some period of time, from doing anything more on My behalf. You seriously started to doubt the verity of My New Revelation, telling yourself that, if the readers and practitioners of My New Revelation could behave like that, if in relationship to each other they also exhibited typical human attitudes, not being able to get along with each other, and not being willing to listen to reason, then, what was the difference between them and typical humans whose strife with each other is a way of their everyday life? In that case, My New Revelation was impotent, having no lasting impact or effect on those people. So, why even bother to continue in anything in this respect? And not only that, but you were questioning whether your understanding of the whole situation was correct and whether the other side, and especially the female in question, was in a position to recognize the truth of the matter much better than you, Peter.

Also, in your case, Peter, you continued to have a somewhat hesitant impression that maybe, both the female and the male in question were not agents of the negative state, but only innocently mislead by the pseudo-creators, and now by the renegades, members of the positive state. It was not until a few days ago, that you had to change your mind in this respect after you received a call from Lyudmila in Moscow, sharing with you a frightening vivid vision she had in which the male in question appeared to her in a demonic form, yelling at her and accusing her about cutting him off from you, Peter, thus, preventing him from his mission to exert negative influence on you and to siphon the TNR Foundation from its meager financial resources, making it unable to support My cause in the form of publication and spreading of My New Revelation on planet Zero. With that information, the full circle of the experimentation is coming to its end. And although some of you still continue in believing that the couple in question are positive, having only My cause on their mind, nevertheless, the majority of those who were under their influence, are seeing the light at the end of the tunnel.

So, apart from you, Peter (who in the experimental design of the pseudo- creators and in the renegades didn’t and doesn’t count), who was the first one to recognize that something was very wrong with the ideas propagated by the female in question? The pseudo-creators’ and the renegades’ assumption was that it would be either no one or it would be one of the males who was/is under her influence. Their assumption was based on the wrong premise that only a rational, logical, intellectual and analytical male could discover or see through this subterfuge. On the other hand, the females, in the pseudo-creators’ and renegades’ view, being so irrational, emotional and impressionable, by their own design, would not be able to see through it. It was to their greatest surprise when they saw that it was a female who was the very first one to recognize these facts. Of course, she, and everyone else, still is giving the benefit of doubt to the position and role of the female in question, not fully recognizing who that female, as well as her male partner, originally was.

This important outcome of the entire experiment and testing confirmed for the pseudo-creators very clearly and unequivocally that females, or femininity, are capable of coming to the right conclusions, as much as any male, or, in some cases, even better than males. Therefore, they concluded, that their view on and attitude toward females is totally and completely faulty, having no basis in the reality of My being and existence; and that it was only their own tinkering in the genetic makeup of females that made some of them, but not all of them, what they became on planet Zero through its bloody and insane history. The result of their experiment is helping them to change their attitude and, with the help of My female representatives, in a collaborative effort with My male representatives, they are establishing a very meaningful, fulfilling and satisfying relationship with them as well as with the feminine aspect of their own personalities and individualities. As you know, in the process of their own experimentation on themselves, they repressed, suppressed and separated it from their genetic endowment, fallaciously convincing themselves that they don’t need their femininity for anything.

Those pseudo-creators, who converted to the positive state, together with those who are presently residing in the New School learning all these facts, are very determined in their effort, with the help of My representatives on planet Zero, to convince the unconverted pseudo- creators to relinquish their view on females and femininity in general and on the role which females play in the totality-of-it-all. If they could succeed in convincing these unconverted pseudo-creators, they would likewise convert to the positive state. The converted ones acquired a clear knowledge and understanding that without the change of their attitude toward femininity and females in general, the true conversion to the positive state and the acceptance of My Absolute New Nature, which is equally comprised of My Absolute Femininity and My Absolute Masculinity, is not possible. This is the reason why the converted pseudo- creators and those currently attending My New School, keep very close contact with the unconverted ones, visiting them frequently, accompanied by the females—My representatives, in order to illustrate to them the true nature of femininity. This fact was confirmed by Alenka Benešová of Slovakia who had a beautiful vision depicting her interaction with a converted pseudo-creator who took her with him to the Hells or to that pseudo-dimension where the unconverted pseudo- creators currently reside, having dinner with them and illustrating to them the clear equality of femininity and masculinity.

So, as you see from this fact, the experiment and testing, although very painful to you, Peter, and to some others, turned out to be for the benefit of all. It is at this point that I would like to take this opportunity to specifically and particularly express My deep gratitude and appreciation to Dr. Beth Ann Voien, My dedicated servant and follower, for her willingness to go through all the turmoil, and coming out of it stronger, better, more loving and wise; and also for her more than generous spiritual, mental and financial support of My New Revelation and My Cause, of TNR Foundation and of you, Peter, personally. All in My positive state join Me in this gratitude and thankfulness to her. At the same time, I would like to express My deep appreciation for those individuals, who, although may still have the wrong impression of who the female and the male in question are, or what their true roles and positions are, or who still might be under their influence, are making an honest effort to read these Dialogs and to consider what they contain. The importance of their efforts in this respect cannot be emphasized enough.

At this point in time, although the pseudo-creators completed their experiment some time ago, and the conservative ones lost their wager, the renegades continue in their effort of undermining anything related to My New Revelation and to My representatives. They took over the couple in question and keep them under their influence, trying to reinstate their credibility which they have been losing considerably, due to the appearance of these Dialogs. These Dialogs are the thorn in their back, so-to-speak, because they undermine their effort to keep as many of My representatives as possible under the influence of that couple or at least, under the influence of the female in question. As of now, this particular female has not shown any sign of coming back on the right track. And we fully respect her choice. Those of you, who are in contact with her, with this new knowledge about her role, without any imposition, could be of great help to her by illustrating to her through the mode of your behavior and attitude what these Dialogs have been able to do for you in a purely positive sense.

There is one more issue that needs to be touched upon before closure of this Dialog. It relates to your former ally, Peter, through whom, on some occasions, I used to speak with you. I want you to be aware of something which will not be easy for you to accept. During the time when you were questioning the role and position of the mentioned couple, he was considerably under their influence. Because of that, in the process of some sessions which you had with him at that time, at some point in talking with you, I was replaced by a false Jesus Christ, who was giving you the wrong information about no longer having any need, ever again, to use the written material for conveying My revelation or My information to My representatives (My agents at that time). Because you fully bought that the information in question was coming from Me, disregarding your own intuition, which was screaming at you that it was not true and that there was a misunderstanding about the meaning of that message and how it was related only and only to the here-and-now and to no other times, you blocked yourself for almost five years from communicating anything to anyone coming from Me. And although this situation was permitted by Me to take place for the purpose of its utilization and implementation of the plan for establishing the individualization, personalization and independence of everyone connected to My New Revelation, as it was revealed in the very first and second Dialogs, and which was very true; nevertheless, the renegades temporarily succeeded in their effort. Also, they succeed in still keeping your ally under the influence of the female in question, effectively blocking him from making any contact with you personally or from wanting to do anything with you at this particular time. As you are aware, he doesn’t even have enough courtesy to acknowledge the reception of these Dialogs, which you have been sending to him, or to give you any type of feedback. Of course, as always, we accept his free will and choice to do whatever he wants to do, without judging, condemning, rejecting or writing him off, or anyone else for that matter.

In assessing this situation, the way as it was played out behind the scene, I would like you to recognize and to accept one important fact, repeated many times before: No one, yes, no one, is ever lost, no matter who she/he is or what role and position she/he has. And if, for some reason or other, someone decided, consciously or unconsciously, to utilize their life-force energies for some other purpose other than in My services or the services of My New Revelation, nevertheless, it is only a temporary deviation from its proper, beneficial and useful utilization. At some time in the future, whether during their lifetime on planet Zero, or following their recall, they will return to Me. At that time everything that they did or didn’t do will be blotted out from their minds and their memories. Also, don’t forget one important fact: They, and especially the female in question, firmly believe that they communicate with the true Lord Jesus Christ and the true members of their spiritual family.

Under the influence of that belief, it would be very difficult for them, and especially for her, to recognize and accept the fact that the true reality in this respect could be very much different. This is the reason why, as of this date, she has refused to take heed and amend her ways. After all, if you are firmly convinced that you are in contact with the true Lord Jesus Christ, and if someone else, like you, Peter, for example, is claiming the same, then you would tend to conclude that your Lord Jesus Christ is the right one and the other person’s (yours, Peter) is a false one. Also, don’t forget that to herself, to her friends and to those who are still under her influence in some way or other, she appears to be very loving, kind, tolerant, meek, friendly, positive and supportive, giving the impression that she is not imposing anything on anyone. For that reason, it would be very difficult, if not impossible, to accept these facts about her nature and role. However, the appearances could be only appearances as they are seen on the scene. Behind the scene though, the reality of anyone’s true nature and role in this respect could be very much different.

Due to this fact, what should be your attitude and behavior toward anyone who is in such a position? Full acceptance of who they are and what their true role is, without rejecting or dissociating yourself from them! As it was mentioned in one of the recent Dialogs, in which you were warned about the possibility of invasion into your circles of someone who is an agent of the renegades, it is not necessary to avoid them unless, of course, they choose to avoid you. Also, as mentioned above, your behavior and attitude, based on My New Revelation, could function as a contributory factor in their waking up and recognizing the true reality of their situation and as a result of that, they might choose to come back on the right track.

As we are discussing this unpleasant-for-you-issue, Peter, the renegades and their minions are furious for revealing all the secrets of their game- playing in regards to some of My representatives. They have no desire or need for you to know the truth about these matters. It undermines their chance to continue in misleading My representatives who are under the influence of the discussed individuals. As mentioned previously, they are especially furious about the availability of our Dialogs. They consider them the major obstacle in their effort to establish their full rule and control over humanity and elsewhere. For that reason, they are forced into a position of regrouping their forces and redefining and changing their strategies. Due to the fact that they like to imitate certain strategies adopted by the members of the positive state, at least externally and superficially, they have decided right now, as you are writing these words, to rename all their agents and minions situated on planet Zero, their representatives. Thus, as of today, no longer will they be the agents of the negative state but its representatives.

And one final note in the conclusion of this Dialog and of this particular chapter in your history, Peter, and the history of that which happened five and a half years ago and which caused you so much pain, misery and suffering. Whatever happened here, in California, and whatever is revealed here about it, in no way should be applied to the situation that occurred at the same time in the New York area on the East Coast of the United States. That occurrence has an entirely different meaning and significance. It would be a gross error in judgment to try to analogize those events with these on your side, Peter. Any attempt to do so, would lead to an improper perception and understanding of its true meaning. In that case, whoever would try to do that, would be laboring under distortions and falsities about that event. Because you, Peter, were not directly and personally involved in that situation, it would not be appropriate to talk about it through you. If there were to be a need for clarification and understanding of that situation, as it happened in the New York area, My representatives involved in it would have full responsibility to find out the true meaning of that event.

However, sometimes, certain things, for some important spiritual reasons, cannot be revealed while you are still living on planet Zero. In that case, it is better if you wait until you come back to the spiritual world. Whether this is the case with the situation that happened in the New York area, is a matter for finding out by those in that area. The responsibility in this respect is theirs.

And thus, we came full circle and therefore, we may close this unpleasant history, learning from it beneficial and useful lessons for all. And if anyone, who reads this particular and unusual Dialog, will be turned off by it or will reject its content or anything else contained in My New Revelation, we’ll respect that as well. For now though, we have finished this subject. I would recommend, Peter, to finish it for today. Have a nice day and don’t be anxious about the outcome or the impact that this particular Dialog will have on its numerous readers.

Peter: Believe me, it won’t be easy. I am truly afraid that not all will be able to accept it as coming directly from You. After all, what could prevent them from claiming that it was not You who spoke about these things but my own imagination in order to justify my own attitude in this case? Nevertheless, I thank You very much for showing me, and all readers of these Dialogs, how things were played out behind the scene.

The Lord Jesus Christ: You are welcome, Peter. And if any reader would come to such an erroneous conclusion, it would only mean that they failed to corroborate these facts from their own within, by their intuition, or by whatever means are available to them for such purpose. Has anybody at any time, besides you, Peter, attempted to ask Me personally about the true situation in this respect as it was/is behind the scene? Do it and you’ll see My light and the truth of this matter. And now, Peter, go in peace and don’t worry about anything.

Source: DIALOGUES WITH THE LORD JESUS ​​CHRIST PART 2.

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