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October 2, 1999
Peter: Today, I personally don’t have any specific questions of
multiversal significance. However, some questions were asked from
Slovakia (by Joseph Beneš and his wife, Alenka). During my meditative
walk this morning, it was indicated to me that You would like to make
some comments about the meaning contained in those questions.
Joseph’s question is a simple one. He is asking whether the renegades
are also asking questions or whether we are the ones who, by the positive
examples of our own life, set up a condition for them under which they
will be able to eventually convert to the positive state. Alenka’s question,
I believe, was answered in some way or other in one of the earlier Dialogs
which dealt with the issue of near death experiences. She would like to
have some further clarification on the concept, contained in Indian
philosophy — ‘Nirvana.’ Would You like to address these, or any other
issues, this morning?
The Lord Jesus Christ: Yes, Peter, I would. As you know, one of the
reasons why the pseudo-creators activated and put the negative state
into pseudo-life, was because they were asking questions. Those
questions, in fact, were asked on behalf of all then existing sentient
entities. Whenever you ask questions that have multiversal significance,
the answers to them can be and need to be given on a multiversal level
likewise. If their questions relate to the nature of any other type of life
other than the life of the positive state, the answer to them, which would
be fully and completely impactual and meaningful, could be given only in
one mode — by illustration and demonstration of that other type of life
on the concrete lives of certain sentient entities who would volunteer to
be such exemplifiers.
So, the original activators of the negative state did so because of the need
to get answers to vitally and crucially important and significant
questions in this respect. But how do you go about establishing such a
life, which would have a chance to appear to its participators as the real
one, and in fact, the only one which is tangible and possible? You
fabricate all kinds of creatures who possess a sentient mind but who, by
the structural nature of their own mind, have no desire or need to ask
any questions of multiversal, or even individual nature. Why is it so? The
reason for such a fabrication is in the fact that, if you give them an
option of asking questions of such a multiversal significance, they not
only would ask such questions, but they would also most definitely get
answers to them. If they were to get such answers, in no way would the
negative state have any chance of establishing its pseudo-life. In that
case, the answer to the original question posed by the pseudo-creators on
behalf of all, could never be answered. Again, in that case, the sentient
entities would never acquire knowledge about any other type of life but
their own and they would remain eternally in doubt whether their life is
truly the life of the positive state or whether it is something else. In other
words, as mentioned before, they would have no possibility of comparing
their life with some other type of life and thus, they would end up
without having any choice in the matter but only the necessity to be
locked up in one choice.
As you know, Peter, to have one choice means to have no choice. In that
case, what kind of life would it be? If you live in constant doubt about
anything, and especially about the type of life you have, then, you cannot
very well consider your life as a positive one because doubts can be very
torturous. The positive state doesn’t contain any state of torture or doubt.
Otherwise, it would not be the positive state but the negative one.
So, in order to avoid any possibility of failure in providing the answers to
their questions, the pseudo-creators fabricated everyone in their domain,
as well as, initially, humans, without any need or desire to ask any
questions of that nature. As a matter of fact, the fabrication of their
creatures was based on two fundamental principles: One, the pseudo-life
of the negative state is, in fact, the true life of the positive state. It is the
only possible life that has any meaning and significance and therefore,
nothing else or different is desirable or needed. Because of that, no need
to ponder or ask questions about the possibility of any other type of life is
necessary and needed or even feasible at all. Two, whatever other type of
life exists, it is, in fact, a very bad life, a very restrictive life and
therefore, that life, which claims to be the positive one, is, in reality, the
true negative state. The true purpose of that other life was/is to destroy
our life and therefore, we need to defend ourselves against it and to
destroy it first so it won’t succeed in destroying us.
This was the rationale behind the establishment of that other type of life.
Only with such a rationale and setup could the pseudo-life of the
negative state be established. No other possibility would accomplish the
necessary goal for which the negative state was permitted to come to its
adverse fruition.
So, if you are one hundred percent convinced that your life is the only
possible and feasible one and only positive in its nature and that any
other type of life is very much negative, and that it is after your throat
so-to-speak, then, in that case, you don’t question anything about your
life and you want it to be preserved to eternity by whatever means are
available to you. And because the other type of life is in your way of
accomplishing your goal in this respect, you commit all your resources,
abilities, or whatever you have to the destruction of that other life. This
is how all in the negative state were brainwashed into believing this
fable.
The renegades are the embodiment of this pseudo-philosophy. Therefore,
at this point in time, they don’t ask any questions about their life or
anything else related to the nature of any other type of life. They are
completely and totally, without any exception or exclusion, committed to
the destruction of the positive state and to the preservation to eternity of
the negative state or of their brand of pseudo-life.
However, at the present time, the situation with some creatures in the
Hells is somewhat different than with the renegades and their minions.
Thanks to My New Revelation, and especially to these Dialogs, many of
them, who are attached to My representatives, are hearing all these
things the right way. For the first time they have information that
substantially and diametrically differs from what they have been offered
all this time by their rulers. Based on this factor, they have begun to ask
their own questions and, by the means of these Dialogs, if My
representatives read them with Me and them on their mind, they are
getting the right answers. This factor established a very peculiar
situation in their respective Hells. On one hand, there is a propaganda
drum beat continuously going on, which is trying to convince these
entities to continue in their lifestyle, which was established many
millions of years ago and which has been perpetuated until this time and
which has been the only life they have known and experienced and which
they have considered to be the ultimate in positiveness and goodness;
and to continue fighting against anything of the positive nature,
considered by them, in that nature, to be the ultimate-ness of negativity
and destructiveness. On the other hand, they hear this new information,
which is coming to them in My voice by the means of these Dialogs,
which is telling them something entirely different. As a matter of fact, it
is telling them just the opposite of what they have thought was true but,
according to this information, it was a total falsity.
The moment you begin to receive two contradictory informations, for the
first time, you are placed into a position of starting to ask your own
questions. Once you start to ask your own questions, it means that now
you are really beginning to doubt whether your prior and only
information and conviction is true or not. And this is the very first step
taken toward recognizing the fact that maybe, just maybe, your life is not
what you have thought it has been up to this point. And perhaps, in that
case, what you were told or what you believed about the nature of that
other type of life, has not been true either.
Now, with humans on planet Zero the situation was/is somewhat
different. Originally, before My First Coming, humans were in a similar
position as were/are all other creatures of the Hells. They were likewise
not asking questions because, as you remember, the forces of the
negative state convinced humans that their life is a positive one, the only
feasible one and that planet Zero is the place to be because it is the best
and the most desirable place in the entire universe. Nothing better has
ever existed or will ever exist. With such a conviction, who would have
any need or desire to question anything about their life or anything else
important for that matter? The formidable task for the fabricators of
humans in this respect was to combine two factors: One, to establish
human life on the principles of necessity and no freedom of choice. Two,
at the very same time, to convince humans, or to place into their genetic
makeup a code that would make them believe that their life is the best
possible life and that planet Zero is the only good and desirable planet to
live on in the entire visible and invisible universe. Thus, based on this
conviction, humans would fall in love with their human life and
therefore, would want nothing more and better than to be here as long as
possible and to cling to their human life by any means available. Under
these conditions no questions would be asked.
My First Coming on planet Zero, as you know, put an end to this
necessity. For the first time, humans were given a choice in this matter:
Either to continue to believe in the falsities about the true origin and
nature of human life or to recognize the truth about it. However, in order
for the negative state and human life to establish their lifestyle based on
free will and free choice and not on necessity, it was necessary to permit
them for some time to continue in their former lifestyle, still considering
that this life is the best one to be in. At this time however, by the factor
of freedom of choice, a foundation was built on which it was made
possible for humans to ask their own questions and to get their own
answers. The forces of the negative state however, knowing what a
tremendous danger in this new possibility was for their cause, devised a
different way of preventing humans from asking their own questions. As
you know, many religions and various pseudo-spiritual trends were
established on planet Zero and elsewhere, which took over the role of
enforcement of their own belief systems into humans which would not
allow humans to ask their own questions and get their own answers.
Instead, humans were made to believe that all the answers they needed
were contained in the dogmas and doctrines of their respective religions
or pseudo-spiritual movements. Thus, the followers of these trends and
movements, were successfully blocked from the need or desire to ask
their own questions and get their own answers. And if they were to have
any inclination to ask such questions, they were made to believe that the
answers to them can be found in the dogmas or doctrines of their
respective religions or in whatever they adopted as their own preferable
belief system. This was a very effective way of preventing humans from
thinking on their own and making them believe that whatever was
contained in the dogmas and doctrines of their systems, was the only
truth and nothing different could have any truth. Because of that,
humans, up to this point, have been kept in distortions and falsities
about their life, about Me, the positive state and everything else.
This is exactly what happens if anyone is kept from the need and desire
to ask their own questions and get their own answers. As you clearly see
from this setup, prevention of asking your own questions and getting
your own answers lead to the establishment of evils and falsities, that is
to say, it leads to the establishment of the pseudo-life of the negative
state. And this is the reason why, in the initial setup, whoever or
whatever was fabricated by the pseudo-creators, was fabricated without
any need or desire to ask any questions and to get any answers.
Otherwise, no negative state could be established.
It was not until My New Revelation had begun to be transmitted through
you, Peter, that these facts have started to, gradually, and in progressive
steps, be brought to your attention and to the attention of all its readers.
The very first step in this respect was the necessity to reveal the truth
about the origin of humans and of the negative state in general. As more
and more was revealed in this respect, by the factor of that new
knowledge, you were prepared to receive the most important news — the
acquirement of My New Nature. Once My New Nature was established,
and once you accepted it as the most important factor of any sentient life,
the next step was, again, gradually and one step at a time, to build the
next important foundation for your actions — preparing you for learning
to ask your own questions and get your own answers. In the first round
of this learning, you needed to acquire an ability to individualize and
personalize your life so that, from that position, you could ask your own
individualized and personalized questions independently, on your
own, without any input from anyone. These types of questions always
relate to your own personal spiritual or any other needs, as well as to the
needs of all those in other dimensions and pseudo-dimensions who were
connected to you for that very purpose.
Once you anchored yourself in this mode of individualized and
personalized life, the next step was to activate your ability to ask
questions which would have a multiversal significance or importance.
Such questions, and their answers, always relate to and are of interest,
in some way or other, to everyone in being and existence and pseudo-
being and pseudo-existence. Because of the multiversality of the content
and meaning of such questions, the only one through whom they could
have been asked and the only one through whom the answers to them
could be received, was someone who was put into the position of the
multiversal link — the transmitter of My New Revelation. Nevertheless,
even in this case, you are the ones who are asking your own questions, as
they come to you by the very inspiration from Me or from the members of
your spiritual family, or from the members of the New Universe, and you
are getting your answers directly from Me through Peter. The reason
why it is through Peter, is, so that your questions and the answers to
them could be heard and registered by everyone in My Creation and
pseudo-creation without exception or exclusion. Only someone who is in
the position of this multiversal link, established by Me for that very
purpose, can be heard and registered by everyone.
By setting up such a method of conveyance of the New Ideas of My New
Revelation, or ideas which are constantly being in the process of their
renewal and regeneration, a totally new situation is being established
not only everywhere in My Creation, but, most importantly, on planet
Zero and via planet Zero to the entirety of the Zone of Displacement with
all its respective pseudo-worlds, pseudo-dimensions and all the Hells.
From this totally new situation, gradually and slowly, everyone in the
negative state is learning about the usefulness and tremendous benefit of
asking their own questions and getting their own answers,
independently of any available dogmas, doctrines or whatever they have
in that respect which has been ruling and dominating their pseudo-lives.
Under the influence of this new situation, a desire and a need is being
stirred up in everyone in the negative state to go ahead and ask their
own questions and get their own answers.
So, as of this moment, do expect that you will be inspired by them also to
ask their own questions which would have a multiversal significance.
Should they have some individualized and personalized questions,
related to their own private needs, those types of questions will be
answered either through your own effort of asking your own individual
and personal questions (your questions would be congruent to their
needs as well) or by some members of the positive state who are posted at
the outposts established in their respective pseudo-worlds exactly for
that, and many other purposes. In the case of questions of multiversal
significance, the answers to them would come from Me by the means of
the multiversal link — the transmitter of My New Revelation. Either
way, you would be inspired to ask them on their behalf but as if they are
coming from you.
As My true representatives on planet Zero, you are being humbly asked
by Me to accept this particular mission in addition to anything else that
you are to do. It will become one of the important aspects of your role and
mission. Of course, consciously, you won’t always realize that some
questions coming to your mind would be coming from the members of the
negative state who are learning to ask important questions. In their
ability and willingness to do so, is rooted their future salvation and
conversion to the positive state.
As far as the renegades themselves and their minions are concerned, as
of this moment, they are very far from any desire or need to follow this
suit. As a matter of fact, they are furious that this situation has also
been effectively established and grounded in their domain and world.
They’ll make an all-out effort to discourage both you and their own
people from asking any questions at all and getting any answers as well.
But, at one point in time, when everything regarding the negative state
and its pseudo-life will be coming to its final end, the renegades will
wake up and will begin asking their own questions, especially about why
it has been that, no matter what they have been doing, no matter how
much effort they have been making, no matter how many kinds of tricks
they have been coming up with, no matter what at all, they could never
succeed in any of them on a permanent basis. Even if sometimes they
have been successful in some of their endeavors in this respect,
nevertheless, in the end they ended up in total failure and defeat.
When you constantly experience total failure in everything that you do,
no matter what it is and no matter how much effort you put into it, at
one point in time, you really have no recourse but to ask yourself
questions, why is it so and what it is that you are doing wrong? And here
comes your role, My true representatives, in relationship to the
renegades. By establishing many examples with your own behavior,
attitude and willingness not only to ask Me questions but also to listen to
the answers and to implement in your own lives what those answers
indicate and contain, you are showing to the renegades and their minions
the way how to do it and how to implement it. This illustration and
demonstration on your behalf, because it is of such an individualized,
unique and personalized nature, will lead the renegades and their
minions to the process of their own individualization and
personalization. Because such a process is a process of the positive state,
they will wake up from their illusions, delusions and nightmares and will
accept into themselves the life of the positive state.
Of course, we are still far, time-wise, from this to happen, but,
nevertheless, we are heading in that direction. And you, and your life as
My true representatives on planet Zero, are instrumental in this process.
The grounds for this to happen are being established right now.
Peter: Thank You very much for this very exciting revelation. As you
know, something very important and elating happened in the process of
recording this Dialog. Would You like to address this event now or would
You like to talk about Alenka’s question about Nirvana first?
The Lord Jesus Christ: Let Me first talk about the concept of
‘Nirvana.’ Basically, the answer to this question could be very easily
derived from some of the previous Dialogs which dealt with the issue of
near death experiences, the pre-entrance area into the spiritual world
and about what happens after one dies and can no longer return to
his/her physical body.
However, let us look at it from the current perspective. Basically,
Nirvana, the way it is conceived by Indian philosophy, doesn’t exist. On
the other hand, what does happen to people who come to the spiritual
world, after they are recalled from planet Zero, with certain accepted,
internalized and professed-by-them ideas, the verity of which they are so
sure that no one can convince them that the true reality is different from
what they confessed and believed during their lifetime on this planet? Of
course, as you know so well, Peter, they expect, by the totality of their
own being and existence, to find that world exactly the way they believed
it to be. Their expectations, at that point in their state or time (from the
human conceptualization of time), projected outwardly, create for them
an illusion of being in a world of their own making. Thus, if you believed
in and identified yourself with the concept of Nirvana, reincarnation, or
anything else for that matter, but which does not reflect the true reality
of the spiritual world, you assume your illusions as being the true reality
and you’ll experience yourself subjectively as being in Nirvana or in the
area which is allegedly preparing you for reincarnation back on planet
Zero. These false belief systems, because they are false, and because you
are in an illusion of reality but not in reality itself, attract all kinds of
negative spirits from the Hells who are able to enter your illusions, and
feed you a sense of reality of your illusional world. For that reason, for a
long period of time, in your own subjective perception of time (within the
allotted three years in human planetary time but in your own time it
could be many centuries or more), you have no other idea but that you
are in Nirvana or any other place of your belief system.
When you are in that state, with the exception of the negative spirits, no
one can hear you or understand you as long as you are clinging to your
illusions. This is the reason why Alenka, in her vision, saw people in
such places, who were trying to communicate with her but whom she
couldn’t understand. Because they tried to communicate with her from
the position of their illusions, their words couldn’t be comprehended by
someone who functioned from the position of being My representative,
the position which is real.
However, at one point in time or state, as they are living out their
illusions, and waiting and waiting and waiting for something to happen
(to merge with God, for example, or to reincarnate), and in their endless
waiting nothing of the expected nature is taking place, they become
bored almost to death. It is at such a point that they cry out for help.
Because those people could hear and understand you, even if you don’t
hear or understand them, you could be helpful to them by telling them to
ask Me — The Lord Jesus Christ — for help and for liberation from their
illusions and from all negative spirits attached to them. If they heed your
advice, and ask Me for help, then they are freed from their illusions and
subsequently, they are introduced to the true reality of the spiritual
world. So, if any one of you were to have such an experience or vision,
from now on, you would know what to do in this respect. And this is all
that was needed to be said about the concept of Nirvana.
And now a few words about what was happening today in the process of
recording this particular Dialog. In the midst of this recording, a phone
call was received from Margaret Buhr. Her call was one of the most
joyous events in recent years on all levels of being and existence and on
your own level, Peter. She fully accepted the content of the One Hundred
and Eighth Dialog and had made a most desirable and positive choice to
come back to Me, to My New Revelation, to you, Peter, and to all of us.
The significance of this event is enormous. Something new and different,
only in the positive sense of those words, is being accomplished and
established. Because this new and different is in the process of being
unfolded, its true and significant meaning cannot be revealed as yet.
Some other things need to happen before the full impact of this event, as
well as of everything else related to it, and to some other people who
were involved in that situation, as described in the above-mentioned
Dialog, could be properly ascertained. We’ll return to this topic later on,
either during Manfred’s, Margaret’s and some other individual’s visit
with Gloria and you, Peter, in Santa Barbara, or after their visit. You’ll
know when we should address this one of the most important issues and
its most positive and desirable meaning and significance. Also, how this
event will be impacting the pseudo-creators, the renegades and their
minions, will be revealed later on.
In the meantime, if you receive any questions of multiversal significance,
they will be answered via the subsequent Dialogs. For today though, I
would recommend to finish this Dialog and take up some other work that
you need to do. Go in peace and rejoice in everything that has happened
today and that will be happening as of now.
Peter: Thank You very much for every word contained in this Dialog. As
I clearly see it, our dialoging has a tremendous positive effect on most of
its readers.
The Lord Jesus Christ: It is really so, Peter. This is one of the major
reasons why we are having these dialogs.
Source: DIALOGUES WITH THE LORD JESUS CHRIST PART 2.