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October 27, 1999
Peter: This morning I became curious about whether You would like to
continue in discussing some other issues related to the content of
Chapters Two and Three of the Apocalypse. I am especially interested in
the seven aspects of Your Nature from which You were addressing each
particular church. Is there anything in them, besides and in addition to
what was revealed about them by Swedenborg, which applies to the
contemporary or current situation existing in all the worlds of the entire
being and existence, pseudo-being and pseudo-existence, planet Zero as
well as to us, Your representatives? Also, how do those aspects related to
Your Present Absolute New Nature which, at the time of sending out
those messages, had not been in place, yet? For the sake of all readers of
these Dialogs, let me briefly summarize them: First, You who hold the
seven stars in Your right hand, who walk in the midst of the seven
golden lampstands. Second, You who are the First and the Last and who
were dead, and came to life. Third, You who have the sharp two-edged
sword. Fourth, You who are the Son of God, who have eyes like a flame of
fire, and Your feet like fine brass. Fifth, You who have seven Spirits of
God and the seven stars. Sixth, You who are holy, who are true and who
have the key of David, You who open and no one shuts, and shut and no
one opens. And seven, You who are Amen, the Faithful and True
Witness, the beginning of the creation of God. So, here we have it all.
Would You like to comment on these issues this morning?
The Lord Jesus Christ: Yes, Peter, I would. However, bear in mind,
that only some limited explanation can be offered to you at this time.
Some aspects of the meaning and significance of the quoted texts would
be either incomprehensible to the human portion of your mind or they
would be premature to reveal. So, let us concentrate on those that can be
understood and apprehended and which have some relevance to the
contemporary or current situation in which all of you find yourselves on
planet Zero and elsewhere.
As you know, any time we are talking about some aspects of My former
or current Absolute Nature, we are facing insurmountable difficulties in
finding the most appropriate words in your human language for
expressing their true content and meaning. How could some external
human relative words express or convey something that is of the
Absolute Nature, Meaning and Content? So, anything that we would say
in this respect, would be only a remote approximation of the true nature
and reality of those aspects. Therefore, during this discourse, bear these
factors constantly in your mind. Otherwise you could end up identifying
yourself with something that is only an approximation of the true reality
and not the true reality itself in its essence and substance.
Having said this, let us take these aspects one by one. As you know from
the first chapter of the Apocalypse, the mystery of the seven stars in My
right hand, and the seven golden lampstands related to the churches in
question. Thus, the seven stars were the angels of the seven churches,
and the seven lampstands were seven churches. Of course, this
explanation is from one position of spiritual correspondences to another
position of spiritual correspondences without giving any insight into
what, in actuality and factuality, My holding the seven stars in My right
hand and My walking in the midst of the seven golden lampstands, as
well as seven stars and seven lampstands themselves, really mean and
signify.
The seven stars in the current connotation of their meaning signify all
spiritual ideas, concepts, thoughts, feelings, notions, principles, precepts
and everything related to them in their full and exhaustive totality and
the manner that they are applied in the entirety of My Creation and in
all aspects of its being and existence as well as in the entirety of the
pseudo-being and pseudo-existence, on planet Zero and the Zone of
Displacement in general. That I am holding them in My right hand
denotes that I know in an Absolute sense, by the power of My Absolute
Omnipotence, Omnipresence and All-knowing (My right hand), all and
anything which is being promulgated and propagated everywhere and
everywhen in this respect. The seven golden lampstands in this
connotation signify all those individuals everywhere and everywhen who
are the promulgators, propagators and practitioners of such spiritual
ideas, concepts, notions, principles, etc., at any levels of their good and
truth or their evils and falsities but whom I, regardless of their spiritual
standing, love and care for (the word ‘golden’ corresponds to the goodness
of My Heart and to the love of My Wisdom). That I walk in the middle of
the seven golden lampstands signifies that they all, no matter where and
when, no matter how positive and good or bad and evil they are; no
matter how true or false their concepts, ideas, notions, etc., and their
lifestyles are, they live, function and are able to be in their own situation,
position and lives as well as in their own identities only by the factor of
My continuous presence with them and within them. My walking in the
midst of them generates all life energies, stemming directly from Me, by
which they function, live and are alive in their own eyes.
From the position of this all-knowing and omnipresence of Mine, I
continuously provide all kinds of opportunities for creative, productive
and constructive progression of all positive, proper and good ideas,
concepts, notions and lifestyles, as well as for repentance, amendment
and recession from any bad, negative, evil and inappropriate ones which
endanger the spiritual lives of their holders, promulgators, propagators
and practitioners. As you noticed from the text of those two chapters in
the Apocalypse, whenever I find something inappropriate, false,
distorted, evil or even deadly in anyone’s spiritual ideas and practices, I
always bring these facts to their attention and tell them that unless they
repent, I will dispense with all of them. The dispensation factor is never
applied before many opportunities are provided for anyone to repent and
to amend their ways. And what does repentance consist of? It consists of,
among other things, recognizing and accepting, from the bottom of one’s
heart, the fact that one lives in, promulgates, propagates and practices
falsities and evils and, at the very same time, expressing a desire to
permanently get rid of them, replacing them with only that which comes
directly from Me or, in connotation of the contemporary or current
situation, which comes from My New Nature by the means of My New
Revelation. As you remember, nowadays, only by the means of My New
Revelation and by the means of acceptance of My New Nature, can
anyone be brought out of his/her evils and falsities and be placed into the
positive state.
As far as how this situation applies to My Absolute New Nature, all
these factors, related to My holding the seven stars in My right hand and
walking in the midst of the seven golden lampstands, indicate that only
from the position of My New Nature, can any such offers of repentance
and amendment for anyone become a true reality. Without My New
Nature, no such possibility would ever exist. From the position of My Old
Nature, everyone would be condemned to eternal death. The reason for
this harsh and impossible outcome lies in the fact that in the condition of
My Absolute Purity of the Positiveness, without any experience of the
negative state and human life, I couldn’t stand for a fraction of a second
anything false or evil. However, in order to prevent that from ever
happening, I decided to change My Nature and acquire the New One.
Thus, from the position of My New Nature, I may, can and am willing to
continuously provide for everyone zillions of opportunities for repentance
and amendment of their negative and evil ways. And this is what this
aspect of My Nature is all about as reflected in the first quoted text.
In the second aspect I am designated as the First and the Last, who was
dead, and came to life. The issue here is two-fold. In the first instance, to
be the First and the Last denotes that no one before Me and no one after
Me can be and exist or ever had been or will be. Whoever and whatever is
and exists, is and exists within, or, better to say, in between the First
and the Last. In this sense, it is obvious that no one and nothing can,
may or is able to be and to exist outside of or before or after this First
and this Last — Me. This is the issue of the all-encompassing factor. In
order to make it really all-encompassing, it was necessary for Me to
experience something which had never been included in the experiential
mode of My Old Nature — the negative state and its human life. And
here comes the second instance. For someone who is Absolutely Purely
Positive without any containment of anything negative within His/Her
Nature, to enter the negative state and its human life means to die or to
experience death. By the process of conquering all aspects of the negative
state and its human life, and by removing anything negative, evil and
false from the human aspects of My Nature, I became alive again,
retaining all direct experiences of everything contained in the nature of
the negative state and in human nature.
This particular aspect has a direct relevance to My New Nature. This is a
prophetic prediction about the process of acquirement of My New Nature.
Without it, I could have never come down to the level of the relative
sentient entities or become the true and the only (symbolically speaking,
the First and the Last) Savior of all from the negative state and from the
negative aspects of human nature. If it were never ever to happen, no
one could endure to eternity to carry the awful and unbearable burden of
the pseudo-being and pseudo-existence of the negative state and its
human life. Because I foresaw that without this factor the negative state
and its human life could not be transformed, saved or eliminated, and
that its continuous presence would not only complicate the lives of
everyone also in the positive state but, under those kinds of adverse
conditions, would make it impossible to continue in such a life, or any life
at all, I volunteered to become dead so that I could become alive again
and thus, by My own experience, could offer everyone who is dead to
become alive likewise. Do you see why it was so crucial and important to
acquire My New Nature? As you see from this fact, it was a matter of life
and death of everyone everywhere and everywhen.
In your present condition, if any one of you still holds to anything which
was described in My messages to the seven churches as negative, evil,
false or distorted, as recorded in the first and second chapters of the
Apocalypse, by that factor you are spiritually dead. Or, if you are
combining anything of My New Revelation with anything that is not of
its ideas and content, in that case you are terminally ill and you are in
the process of spiritually dying. To do that or to be that way means to try
something impossible — to be outside, or before or after the First and the
Last. Any attempt of doing so, will make you spiritually dead. But
because I also died, and in the process conquered death itself, and thus,
became alive forever, I paved the way for you to be cured from your
terminal illness or to come to the true life if you are already spiritually
dead.
In this particular sense, to be the First and the Last also signifies to be
the only one who is the First and the Last to be alive and to be living in
an absolute sense. Anyone relative can thus, be alive and living only by
My being absolutely alive and living forever. No other ways are possible
or feasible. In your condition, as My true representatives on planet Zero,
you are to reflect this important spiritual factor by promulgating its
meaning and content in your own lives and the way you relate to Me and
to all others everywhere and everywhen.
The third aspect deals with My having the sharp two-edged sword. What
does it spiritually mean to have such a sword? It directly relates to that
aspect of My New Nature which has an absolute ability to discover,
uncover, delineate, separate and remove anything false, evil, negative
and adverse from anything good, positive, true and appropriate, no
matter how much or to what extent anything of the negative state is
disguised, hidden, secretive and appears to be good, proper, correct and
right; and no matter how much it is doing anything of this putrid nature
under My Name. But it also means the absolute protection and
insulation of everyone on all sides from being hurt, harmed, injured,
destroyed or eternally condemned. Because the sharp two-edged sword
denotes the Absolute, Pure and Uncontaminated Truth which
successfully combats all evils and falsities, it also signifies that special
power in My New Nature which has the absolute ability to eliminate the
negative state for good and forever and to save everyone in its clutches,
no matter what they did or how they were; thus, bringing them all back
to the positive state. It is this portion of My New Nature which brings to
everyone’s attention the true nature of the positive state as well as the
true nature of the negative state and establishes the proper condition for
everyone in the negative state and its human life to repent and to amend
their ways by showing them the true reality of My Absolute Truth from
My Absolute Good or My Absolute Wisdom from My Absolute Love, and,
at the same time, illustrating to them the difference between the positive
state and the negative state, respectively. This ability makes it possible
for everyone to make appropriate choices based on this crucial knowledge
of differences, and not blindly.
In your particular position, as My true representatives, you are being put
into a position of the extension of this sharp two-edged sword of Mine, so
that you are enabled to sharply distinguish and recognize the truths
from falsities and distortions, goods from evils, and positives from
negatives and to overcome and to get rid of any possible remnants of
anything of the negative and evil nature in your own life; and, under
their influence, all your inappropriate conceptualizations of My New
Nature, My New Revelation, My positive state and the way you live and
practice everything contained in My New Revelation. By this ability of
yours, you will be able to establish for everyone else an example and a
foundation on which they will be able, eventually, when the time is right,
to do it likewise.
The fourth aspect deals with that aspect of My Future New Nature
which describes Me as the Son of God, who has eyes like a flame of fire
and whose feet are like fine brass. The reason we are saying ‘future,’ is
because at that point in time, before the completion of acquiring My New
Nature, I was in the position of being the only Son of God. The process of
unification with My Essence and Substance — the Father, from the
position of My Human Nature, would not be completed for a long time to
come (in your planetary human time conceptualization). Here I was
functioning from the position of that portion of My Nature which related
to its acquired human aspects. Because by the process of their
divinization they became free from any contaminants of the negative
aspects of human nature, they were enabled to be called here the Son of
God. The Son brings back everything He has to His Father and gives it to
Him. The Father takes it and incorporates not only what was brought to
Him by His Son but takes His Son into His bosom and becomes one with
Him. In doing that, the Father relinquishes His Father’s identity and the
Son relinquishes His Son’s identity. In that merger they become Someone
else — My True Absolute New Nature.
Now, in that New Nature My eyes become like a flame of fire and My feet
like fine brass. To have eyes like a flame of fire, in this connotation,
signifies to look at everyone and everything with the most intense and
pure unconditional love, the flame of which burns eternally and
inextinguishably and can never cease to radiate its heat of life to the
entirety of My Creation and the pseudo-creation. To have feet like fine
brass, in the present connotation of its meaning, signifies My ability,
engrained in My New Nature, to come down to the level of anyone in the
negative state and in human life and to be with them, walk amongst
them and to associate with them without any danger to them or to My
New Nature. This new ability of Mine, represented here by My feet being
like fine brass, is essential if I am to liberate and to save everyone from
the negative state and from the negative aspects of human life. A
foundation is being built here for the accomplishment of this most
desirable goal.
In your particular case, as My true representatives on planet Zero, you
are to learn to have similar eyes — like a flame of fire, so that you are
enabled to look at everyone only and only from the position of My
Absolute Unconditional Love and its Absolute Wisdom and relate to
everyone only and only from that position, without avoiding anyone,
judging anyone or condemning anyone, but instead, walking with My feet
which are like fine brass, coming down to their level of understanding,
illustrating and demonstrating to them the true life of the positive state
so that they are enabled to discern, to learn and to recognize the
difference between what is of purely positive nature and what is of
purely their negative nature and to make an appropriate choice in this
important matter.
The fifth aspect deals with My Nature which contains the seven Spirits
of God and the seven stars. The Seven Spirits of God, in the connotation
of the presently discussed topic, denote that portion of My New Nature
which was previously designated as non-nameable, non-approachable
and totally and completely incomprehensible by any relative mind. You
can consider It as the very Absolute Core of My Absolute Essence and
Absolute Substance from which springs forth special types of energies
giving rise to the entirety of My Creation and for establishment of all
forms of life. This is the aspect of My New Nature which fills out
everyone and everything, which knows in the minutest possible details
absolutely everything that is going on in everyone and everything at each
time of their continuous and unceasing functions and manifestations. It
is ever-present everywhere from the highest Heavens to the lowest Hells,
filling out all corners and all hiding places so that no one and nothing is
ever out of its sight and perception. There is no place in the entirety of
My Creation or in the pseudo-creation where anyone or anything could
hide from or be outside of Its awareness and active perception. And the
seven stars in this connotation denote My Absolute Knowledge of any
and all types of ideas, concepts, notions, thoughts, feelings, wills, actions,
behaviors, attitudes, relationships, establishments and of everything else
that anyone in the positive state or in the negative state or in human life
has.
This aspect of My Nature is very crucial and essential to have, in order to
be able to render a just, objective and fair judgment about anyone in this
respect. Only from having the absolute knowledge about anyone and
anything and about their state of mind and what they profess, adhere to
and practice, or with what they identify themselves, could such a just
judgment be rendered. Again, this aspect of My Nature has a direct
relevance to My New Nature because only from the position of that
Nature could any such experiential knowledge of everyone and
everything be acquired and eternally contained in Me. This is the reason
why only by having this New Absolute Nature, can I render the objective
and just Last Judgment upon this cycle of time/state/condition. No other
Nature could do it because it would lack the experiential knowledge of all
aspects of the nature of the negative state and human nature.
In your particular position, as My true representatives, you are to
emphasize these facts about My New Nature so that humans would have
the proper perception of Who I am and how I function in relationship to
them, knowing in all details everything about them, including their most
secret and most private thoughts, feelings, desires, wishes, wants and
everything else they have or hide.
The sixth aspect deals with My Nature which is designated here as Holy,
as I Who am true and who has the key of David, I Who opens and no one
shuts, and shuts and no one opens. This aspect of My New Nature, in the
connotation of the discussed topic, confirms the fact that, although I have
fully and completely experienced all aspects of the negative state and of
the human nature, and as a result of that came in contact with all their
numerous evils, falsities, distortions, putridity and abominations,
nothing of that nature contaminated, polluted, corrupted or poisoned any
aspects of My Nature. Because I am the only one who remains in this
uncontaminated, untouched and uncorrupted condition, I am the only
one Who is absolutely Holy. The state of holiness is determined by the
factor of to what extent anyone is contaminated by, given in, corrupted
by or absorbed within himself/herself and subsequently internalized
anything contained in the nature of the negative state and in the
negative aspects of the human nature. Because I am the only one Who
was able to successfully avoid such a dire possibility, I am the only one
who is Absolutely Holy. In this sense, what the meaning of this claim
denotes, is that anyone else, in and by himself/herself, cannot be holy,
but they can be so by, through, with, from and of Me. The way to become
this holy way is by shunning all evils and falsities and by refusing to
identify yourself with anything coming from the negative state and the
negative aspects of the human nature and to admit My Personal
Absolute Holiness into your relative condition.
However, there is another aspect to the concept of Holiness as related to
Me. It is the very center, the most essential and substantial nucleus of
My Absolute Core which is something that no words, ideas, images,
thoughts, feelings, intuition or anything else can express or discern or
understand or comprehend or apprehend Its true Nature or what It is all
about. Therefore, it would be impossible to say more about It.
The key of David, which I have, signifies, in the connotation of our
present topic, the source of the Absolute Spiritual Truth. ‘David’
corresponds to the spiritual truth. To have his key means to have the
only means for opening all infinite mysteries and secrets, contained in
the spiritual truth. Because they are infinite, stemming from the fact
that I am the only Absolute Truth, only I can and may open them or keep
them closed or, in other words, only I can and may properly interpret
them and explain them to anyone interested in them and who is
approaching them with positive and good intent and with the right
motivation in order to know the truth for the sake of practicing all its
aspects in his/her life and for the sake of principles themselves. No
relative being can do so on his/her own without Me.
In your position as My true representatives on planet Zero, I have been
sharing with you My key of David by revealing to you, by the means of
My New Revelation in all its three sources, My Spiritual Truth and many
of its mysteries and secrets which were safe, proper and timely for you to
know. In this respect, the few of you who have My New Revelation or My
key, are privileged as no one else on planet Zero. Therefore, you are to
carry this knowledge within you and with you in all modesty,
humbleness and humility, as very sacred and unusual and put it in the
center of your life and living, by practicing it; and you are to share that
knowledge amongst yourselves and with everyone who shows a desire to
have it for the sake of the above mentioned principles and only for their
sake and for no other reasons.
And finally, the seventh aspect designates Me as the Amen, the Faithful
and true Witness, the Beginning of the creation of God. ‘The Amen,’ in
connotation of our discussed topic, signifies the ultimate confirmation
that I AM WHO I AM and there is none besides Me at the same level or
in the same Absolute State, Process and Condition. It also denotes that
whatever I say is absolutely so, and there are no ‘buts,’ ‘ifs,’ ‘shoulds,’
‘woulds’ or ‘maybes.’ Because of that, from the position of absolute
knowledge of Who I Am and who everyone is, I am the only Faithful and
True Witness to anyone or anything in being and existence and in
pseudo-being and pseudo-existence. Only I am able to testify about
anyone’s true intentions, motivations and what they contain within
themselves. And because I am the Faithful and True Witness, I could
never misrepresent anyone in their true nature or about the way they
are. Again, this factor of My Nature is a very important one because it
makes it possible for everyone to receive their personal just and objective
Last Judgment. It has a direct relevance to My New Nature which is the
very foundation for such a personal as well as global Last Judgment to
take place.
The beginning of the creation of God denotes that aspect of My Absolute
Nature which initiated from Itself the creative effort leading to the
establishment of My beloved Creation. This aspect relates to My
Absolute Desire to share everything that I have and that I am with
everyone else. Thus, in this connotation, this Absolute Desire is the very
beginning of creation because without it, I would have no need or
motivation to create anything at all (which, by the way, had never
entered My Absolute Mind).
In your particular case, as My true representatives, by your personal and
individual lives, you are to confirm the verity of My New Revelation,
becoming its ‘Amen’s.’ Also, let your statement be ‘yes’ or ‘no’ without any
other hesitant, doubting, unsure or uncertain meanings. By practicing
the principles of My New Revelation in your everyday life, you will
become the faithful and true witnesses to My New Nature and to
everything contained in My New Revelation. This is your true role and
assignment if you care to carry on with it by your own free will and
choice. To conclude, I want you to know, that at the present time, this is
the only possible extent to how much could be revealed about the
meaning of the discussed topic. Because of that, I would recommend to
finish it for today so that you may have rest. Go in peace and be of good
cheer.
Peter: Thank You very much for this beautiful revelation. You see, these
kinds of discussions I like the best. Nothing personal and yet, it concerns
and relates to everyone.
Source: DIALOGUES WITH THE LORD JESUS CHRIST PART 2.