EIGHTY FIFTH DIALOGUE

June 1, 1999, Moscow, Russia

Peter: Before asking my own questions, as usual, I would like to ask You, my Lord Jesus Christ, if you wish to elaborate on anything this morning first.

The Lord Jesus Christ: Thank you, Peter, for asking Me to speak first. At this point in time, I would like to address, in the form of reiteration, some of your own concerns and doubts, Peter, about My frequent statements that before the negative state was activated and before human life came to its pseudo-reality, the agreement was made that no one on planet Zero, as well as anywhere else in pseudo-being and pseudo- existence, would remember anything about this agreement or about any agreement which every individual had made before incarnation on this planet or anywhere else in the negative state. Some aspects of this agreement and the way they were established were obliterated from the memories of the members of the positive state as well.

Your doubts and concerns in this respect, Peter, are regarding the verity of these claims. You are telling yourself that if you are unable to remember even one small and maybe, insignificant event or item that took place or was part of your life prior to your incarnation on planet Zero, and in your case, Peter, especially about our agreement for you to become the transmitter of My New Revelation, then, perhaps you are deceiving yourself and others. Sometimes you are almost horrified, waking up during the nights with anxiety attacks, thinking about what your retribution and punishment would be, if you were to be wrong or if you were deceiving others and yourself, after you come to the spiritual world following your recall from planet Zero. In your typical human type of scientific view, to which you occasionally succumb, you are concerned that no objective facts exist or are available to anyone which would be able to verify these claims. How do you go about proving that this is really the case? No such proofs exist. In some ways, you almost have to take these statements of Mine on blind faith. If I say so, and if you are sure that it is really Me who is saying these things, or making such claims, — about which you are frequently unsure — then you have to accept them without any demands or possibility of having any objectively and scientifically verifiable data.

The statement about taking these claims on blind faith fully contradicts the principles of My New Revelation. As you know, the major tool by which anything conveyed to you in My New Revelation can be proven, is by your intuition, insight, logic, rationality, reason, intellect and by an inner sense or perception or discernment that something is or is not true. It is a state of simply knowing that something is or is not so without any need for objectively verifiable proofs. The problem with objectively verifiable proofs is that they come from without. If you carefully explore the nature of such proofs, as reflected in the scientific principles initially and originally formulated for that purpose by the pseudo-creators and subsequently adopted by your scientists, then you will come to the inevitable conclusion that such proofs are as unreliable and inconclusive as anything else in human life and in the negative state in general. How many times have you encountered in scientific circles something which in their view was proven with almost one hundred percent certainty, only to be completely refuted somewhere along the line of new discoveries? What is this fact telling you, Peter? That any knowledge that stems or comes from without, has no permanent reliability. And not only that, but knowledge that was acquired by such methods, very often, is either distorted or completely wrong or false.

The reason for such extreme unreliability of any knowledge acquired by such external, without methods, is in the fact that in this setup you are looking at all phenomena of life as they appear on or at the scene. This is the objective, externally verifiable view. This is the view of appearances and not of true reality. Therefore, in this view or stance you can have only that which you see with your eyes, so-to-speak, and not what really is going on seen from the perspective of that which is happening. If I observe your behavior, for example, and if I have no other source of knowledge about it but only what I observe from my perspective and from the outside of you, how much truthful and genuine knowledge could I acquire about anything related to the reasons, modes and the needs of your particular behavior and who you really are? Not much, because I go only by external appearances and not by the reality of your true internal motivational factors which underlie all your activities and your everyday behavior.

This example tells you very clearly how inappropriate, superficial and unreliable any scientific methods are. No other conclusions can be made about these methods if you take into consideration that all their knowledge derives from without — from externally observable phenomena. As you know, Peter, from such perspective, or in such a setup, or in such a condition, no true and genuine knowledge exists. What exists in them, however, is appearance of true knowledge but not knowledge itself.

In this respect, how can you apply anything of these so-called human scientific external or objective methods to anything spiritual or to anything that is initiated in within or in the state of internals where the true reality exists? Because these methods are not equipped even remotely to discern or to detect or perceive anything or even to understand anything at all which happens and is originated and initiated in the state of internals, they have no recourse but to deny that anything else exists other than that which is observable on or at the scene. After all, such methods are designed from elements of the externals or from the elements of appearances. If you design something from such elements, it will be able to tell you only about something which relates to these externals. In that case, anything which happens in the true reality of the internals, will completely and totally elude such methods.

As you see from this description, all such so-called objective scientific methods are of the negative state. They are the property and methodology of the negative state. In the true understanding of the nature of these methods, you can be assured that they were originally established by the pseudo-creators and conveyed to humans in order to keep them in appearances of knowledge and understanding of the reality of being and existence and not in their true knowledge and understanding.

Once again, and we are repeating this, if, in the positive state, all knowledge stems from everyone’s within, that is to say, from My presence in that within, then in order to initiate and establish the negative state, you have to recede from this method. Otherwise, you could never come even remotely close to the initiation and establishment of the negative state. So, the logical conclusion in this respect was that if such true knowledge stems only from Me in everyone’s within — after all, I am the Absolute Knowledge in, by, of and from Myself — then in that case, in order to establish a totally different lifestyle, different from the lifestyle of the positive state, it was necessary to derive all knowledge from without, without any involvement of Me. It was very clear to the initiators of the negative state that any aspect of My involvement could not produce anything ever remotely resembling something that was not of the positive nature. Knowing that I am Absolutely Positive, and knowing that in such a state nothing of the negative could be contained in an absolute sense, it was necessary to completely and totally exclude Me from the process of activation of the negative state.

What do you get in the ultimate outcome of any creative or pseudo- creative effort if you exclude the only and the very source of knowledge — Me? The only things you get are appearances of knowledge. Such appearances lead to nothing else but to either relative knowledge or to outright distortion and falsities. For that reason, based on these factors, any knowledge available to anyone in the negative state and to humans, is either relative, applicable only to some narrow, limited and isolated occurrences, or it is distorted or false. And this is what the negative state and human life are all about.

Taking into consideration these facts, it is very obvious that anything contained in My New Revelation cannot be subjected to the methodologies of the negative state for the purpose of verification of the truthfulness of its statements and/or claims. If you were to apply them for such a purpose, you would end up either in total denial that they are true or you would end up in distorting or falsifying them. After all, if you approach anything from the position of methodology which is relative, distorting or falsifying, your conclusions about anything cannot be any other but relative, distorted or false.

For these reasons, in the process of transmission and formulation of anything in My New Revelation, at all times, it was necessary to discard any utilization of any methods which were available in the negative state and human life for the purpose of verification and validation of its statements and/or claims. Instead, a methodology of the positive state was and is used — by inner, intuitive knowing that something is or is not so because it is the only thing that makes perfect sense. This is not a method of blind faith but a state of inner, irrefutable, logical, rational, insightful and intelligent knowledge which clearly tells you that no other explanation, understanding or discernment is possible and conceivable at this time but only the one which is presented to you from Me, or from the State of My Absolute Knowledge, by the means of My New Revelation.

Because of the relativity of any sentient mind, by the factor of that relativity, very often, this mind cannot come up with the right answers no matter how much and to what extent it would try. In order to give impetus for any creative effort of any sentient mind to take place, from time to time, it is necessary to reveal certain knowledge to the relative sentient mind from the source of My Absolute Knowledge so that continuous progression of the acquirement of new, higher and transcending knowledge is assured. Such new knowledge is contained in My New Revelation for each time and epoch. Any time that new knowledge is made available to the sentient mind, it is put to its use. In the moment all aspects of that knowledge are fully utilized, applied and firmly grounded in the sentient mind, another New Revelation is given by Me which contains new, higher, transcending and more advanced knowledge than previously available. Usually it either supersedes the previous knowledge or, in most instances, it builds on it. Once again, the process of verification of the truthfulness of this new knowledge, is by everyone’s inner intuition, logic, reason, rationality, insight and intelligence. Because all these attributes are the state of pure internals, verification always stems from everyone’s within.

In your particular case, as My true representatives on planet Zero, you were put into a position of verification of everything contained in My New Revelation by the same methods — the methods of the positive state. Therefore, to seek this verification by any other methods than that, would constitute seeking it by the methods of the negative state. In that case, to repeat it again and again, if you were to apply its methods, you would end up either in total denial of the verity of My New Revelation, with its subsequent rejection, or you would simply misunderstand its true meaning with a subsequent distortion and/or falsification of all its principles. In that case you would end up in the negative state, stripped of the role of being My true representatives. For this reason, Peter, I am asking you not to seek any so-called objective scientifically verifiable proofs about whether the statements regarding total obliteration of everyone’s memories, including yours, as well as about anything else contained in My New Revelation, are true or not and whether you are deceiving yourself and others in this respect because you are unable to recall anything concerning our agreement or any other events, or whatever, from the time before your incarnation on planet Zero. It serves no good purpose. It only pleases the negative state.

Throughout My New Revelation, we have already extensively discussed why it was necessary to undertake such an unpleasant task as obliteration of all memories related to our prior agreement before your incarnation on planet Zero, as well as all memories related to your life in other dimensions before that. First of all, as you remember, it would make your life on this planet and in human life totally and completely unbearable. You could not survive on planet Zero and in human life with having such memories and knowledge. In that case, you would fail in your mission. Your failure in this respect would give the negative state a better chance for its continuous survival. Secondly, with such memories and knowledge, the validity and outcome of the experiment in the pseudo-life of the negative state would be nullified because it would be a pretentious undertaking in a sense of ‘as if ’ and not as it really is or would be. And thirdly, in view of the members of the negative state, if you were to have the privilege of having such conscious memories available to you, your position would be considered preferential by them, placing you above all and everything and, at the same time, portraying Me as discriminatory, biased and prejudicial. In that case, it would be concluded that I am of the negative nature. This would lead to a very dangerous conclusion that ultimately, there is no difference between Me and My positive state and them and their negative state.

So, as you see clearly from this discussion, everything has its purpose and reason. And no matter how difficult it sometimes is for you to be in your situation and position, as related to a total lack of any memories in this respect, as well as to anything else in your human life, nevertheless, it is for your own good and protection that such a setup was necessary to institute or to establish. Only under these conditions anything real, valid, learnable and beneficial for all could come to its positive fruition. Any other condition would invalidate the entire process. In that case, no proper learning about a different life, different from the life in the positive state could take place. And this is all that I wanted to say from My own perspective, Peter. You may proceed with asking your own question(s).

Peter: Thank You very much for Your meaningful elaboration on this issue. I do ask for Your forgiveness for having such doubts and needs to scientifically verify the truthfulness of Your statements and claims.

The Lord Jesus Christ: You are forgiven. Being that you are in the human skin, it is inevitable to have such doubts and uncertainties. They are unavoidable. Just don’t dwell on them but at any time they plague you, turn your attention to Me and give them to Me. I will take care of them in the most appropriate manner.

Peter: Thank You for this reminder. Now, to my question. For some time now I have been preoccupied with the animal life on planet Zero and in human life, about their meaning, place, and function. I am aware of all things that so far have been revealed in this respect by You, especially about pets and their function in the lives of humans, and particularly in the lives of Your representatives. As you know, some animals, especially pets, exhibit almost humanlike emotions and behaviors which lead some humans, as well as some of Your representatives, to the conclusion that perhaps, these animals have a certain degree of conscious awareness and sense about many things in their environment and about some emotional states of their human masters. Some of them have almost some kind of premonition about impending doom in nature or in human physical or neurological conditions (for example, in epileptic seizures). Again, these abilities, lead many to conclude that animals, or at least some of them, have intelligence and are maybe, rational. I am especially concerned with the considerable preoccupation, time spent, spiritual, mental and economic resources and energies that some of Your representatives show and have in relationship to their pets. To what extent is this appropriate? And what is the situation, place, function and purpose of animal life as related to us, human life, the negative state and to anyone and anything else? How much is there inappropriate justification on our part to have such pets in our lives?

The Lord Jesus Christ: In order to properly answer your question, it is necessary to go back to the very beginning of Creation, when Creation was put into the process of its being and existence. As you know, the state of My Creation has always been from eternity and always will be to eternity. It is the process of Creation that has its relative beginning and relative end with a new beginning on a higher mode of its progression in its process.

What is Creation in general and its process in particular? As you know, Creation stems from My Absolute Ideas and their various Absolute Elements which are projected from the state of My Absolute Within to the state of My Absolute Without. In its without condition, My Creation appears as if it is independent of its source — Me. As you remember, this condition was necessary to establish in order to give it a sense of freedom and independence for the purpose of choice-making, change and continuous progression. Thus, in an ultimate sense, Creation is the embodiment of My Idea for the establishment of being and existence of all and everything in their own independent being and existence. Because all being and existence was within Me, in order to make it independent, the first step, in the process of Creation is to project that being and existence from within Me to the without of Me. Once this projection occurs, by the very nature of My Idea, which is dynamic and progressive, My Creation is put in its process which is in its own dynamic state and process. In other words, because Creation reflects My Creative Nature in its own relative condition, it is creative and progressive by its own nature.

In its original setup, Creation is conceived as a state, condition, place and process, the purpose of which is to establish infinite varieties of unique, independent and specific environments or residences into which all created sentient entities are placed in order to establish for them a suitable atmosphere and sphere for their own creative effort. Because all sentient entities, in their original condition, the way they were created, reflect in their relative condition My Absolute Creative Nature, they are creative in their nature likewise. Thus, by their nature, they have their own ideas, which are projected into their own environment, giving rise to various entities which become the embodiment of these ideas in a concrete or apparent state.

As you know, Peter, the sentient mind of these sentient entities derives from the nature of My Absolute Sentient Mind. The sentient mind discharges its being and existence, as well as its creative effort, through the processes of its mentation or mentality. This mentality, deriving from My Absolute Mentality and the process of My Absolute Mentation, consists of various components in their unique conglomeration which put any sentient entity into the state of self-awareness, self-perception, self- identity, self-emotivity, self-feeling, self-perception, perception of everyone and everything else and into affection for life. Due to the fact that the fundamental nature of every sentient entity, in their original conception, is creative and projective, whatever they generate from the processes and dynamics of their mentation and mentality, by the very nature of each sentient entity’s independence, it tends to establish itself outside of this sentient mind as its own relative being and existence in its own independent mode.

In an absolute sense, you can conceive this issue, as something which originates from My Absolute Mentation. Thus, whatever I think, feel and emote, all ideas and mental elements of the process of thinking, feeling, showing affection, and anything at all, by the process of their dynamic occurrence in My Mind, as they are sent out from within Me, they appear outside of Me as various forms of living sentient and non-sentient entities. Similarly, whatever any sentient entity thinks, feels, shows affection for, etc., in the process of generating such mental elements, these elements separate themselves from the sentient mind and appear as their own independent life forms. The nature and content of such thoughts, emotions, feelings, affection, etc., determines the nature and content of any such life forms. They all become relative to the sentient mind as any sentient mind is relative to My Absolute Sentient Mind.

From this description, you can derive the genesis of non-sentient life forms, in this particular case, of all animals. In some ways, you can conceive animal life as a byproduct of the activities of the sentient mind, especially and particularly of the processes of its mentation. The sentient mind is continuously in the state of thoughts and emotions and in the process of thinking and feeling. By its nature it constantly generates its affections for being and existence and for all byproducts of the process of its mentation. By them, through them and of them, the life of all such non-sentient entities is maintained.

The way you have to understand the above description of the genesis of non-sentient life forms, is by the process of projection of all elements of sentient mentation at all levels of being and existence and their respective dimensions. On the spiritual level, their ideas are generated from the ideas of thoughts, emotions, affections, feelings and thinking. Because they are pure ideas, on this level animal life forms are in the state of their ideas and in the process of their projection to the intermediate dimension, and through it to the physical or material dimensions where they become a concrete and tangible embodiment of those ideas and all their elements. For this reason, on the spiritual level, whenever an idea of any affection, for example, is produced, it appears as a non-tangible but visible form of an animal. This form is subsequently projected to the intermediate area, where it receives the elements of its own mentation, as conceived by the nature of the sentient mentality and its projection. In that condition, by the process of correspondences, it is projected to the physical dimension, where it becomes a concrete animal which carries within itself all elements of its spiritual ideas, as generated in the spiritual dimension; all elements of the specific process of mentation as it occurs in the intermediate dimension; and all elements of its concrete and tangible manifestation as it ends in the physical or external dimension.

As you see from this description, concrete animals don’t appear in the spiritual and intermediate dimensions as something tangible and independent of the sentient mind. In those dimensions they appear only as visual constructs which depict the state and process of the sentient mind at each junction of that state and process. Thus, any change in the state and process of the sentient mind, changes the forms and the types of animals which appear as a result of this change. They carry the nature of this change. Because there are infinite varieties of these changes and of all the ideas generated by the sentient mind in all aspects of its process of mentation, there are infinite animal forms which reflect the nature of these changes and all these ideas. As they proceed into their own being and existence, they are grounded in concrete and tangible life forms on the level of physical or material (in the sense of matter) dimensions.

However, the question is: What is the purpose of appearance of any animal forms into their own non-sentient being and existence? In the spiritual and intermediate worlds, where their appearance is non- concrete, their function is to provide an objective feedback to any sentient entity on the nature and process of his/her thoughts, emotions, feelings, affection and anything else continuously generated by his/her process of mentation. At each particular time, any respective entity not only subjectively discerns what he/she thinks, feels, has affection for, but in the moment any such thoughts, feelings, affection, etc., occur, he/she can see them outside of himself/herself, as objective constructs in the forms of animals that signal him/her the objective and concrete state of the nature and content of the current processes of his/her mentation. This objective feedback of his/her subjective states and processes is a necessary concomitant of the sentient mind’s activities which reinforces their properness and appropriateness at each junction of their occurrences. From the nature of the appearing animal forms, any sentient entity can immediately determine the true state and content of his/her own spiritual and mental dispositions and the way they impact his/her environment and everyone present in his/her vicinity. Thus, in the spiritual and intermediate worlds, the animals are not perceived as something independent of their minds, having their own specific life. Instead, they are perceived for what they really are: as an objective and external depiction of the state and processes of their sentient mind. For that reason, in those worlds, animals don’t have the same meaning as on planet Zero, for example.

On the level of the physical or external dimension, in the positive state of Creation, although all animals appear as independent entities in their own life, independent of the sentient mind’s life, nevertheless, they are recognized by all inhabitants of this dimension as an ultimate concrete and tangible manifestation of the sentient mind’s states and processes of its mentation for the above-described purpose. Because of that, people in this dimension, respect their animals and let them be in their own natural habitat without having any need to form any attachments to them or without interfering with their own mode of non-sentient life. By the processes of their own mentation, they maintain their animals’ life in a properly functional and productive mode. Their animals are seen as a contributory factor for maintenance of proper ecological balance of their environment.

The issue of whether animals can be rational, intelligent and self-aware in themselves and by themselves, even in a rudimentary condition, is in the fact that they reflect the condition of the sentient mind. Because all animals are, in an ultimate sense, a concretized projection of the sentient mind’s states and processes of its mentation, they reflect some elements of these states and processes. It is not as if the animals in themselves and by themselves can have such characteristics and traits but in their expressions and impressions, they are totally dependent on the being and existence of the sentient mind and its mental states and processes. So, the animals may reflect them in their own limited way without being actually and factually that way in themselves and by themselves. Simply stated, animals respond to the projection of ideas of their sentient masters, anchored and manifested in their masters’ mental processes.

The situation is totally different in the negative state and in human life. This difference is not that much in the genesis of animal life forms and their establishment as in the nature of the purpose for which they are being utilized by humans, for example.

Before going into this aspect of our topic, it is necessary to briefly elaborate on the ways life, any life, was initiated on planet Zero. As you know, Peter, and everyone who reads these words, one of the many purposes for which the negative state and human life was activated, was to prove that life doesn’t originate in Me, or in some kind of god, or in My spiritual principles, but it is an evolutionary process which occurs without any outside input or thrust, and which develops from one single cell, culminating in an appearance of sentient life forms — humans, in our case. How do you go about proving that this is so? After long deliberation and experimentation, the pseudo-creators came up with the idea of separating one of the most external reflections of the original planet Earth and moving it to the current place in the continuum. At that time, the reflection in question was in the state of what your scientists would call primordial. The purpose of this move and placement, was to separate it from any influence of its original source or anyone and anything else. This was a necessary arrangement in order to prove the point that life as such can be initiated without anyone’s influence or input and that therefore, it can begin its development by itself and in itself. Thus, no God, no spiritual factors, and no one else is involved in the establishment of life.

After the pseudo-creators succeeded in this move, they took one single organic or living cell, and placed it in the primordial ocean on this reflection, called now planet Zero. They nurtured that cell in such a way so as to make it multiply and expand into many other cells. They established a suitable bio-chemical and physical condition in the ocean and on planet Zero in general for that cell, or now for those cells, to further develop. By the ideas of their own minds, they projected into those cells various elements that gave an impetus for gradual and seemingly evolutional development of life forms from one single cell all the way to complex organic life forms culminating in the appearance of various fish and oceanic organic creatures. From them a gradual development of other animal life forms, birds and insects was initiated by projections of the relevant ideas of the pseudo-creators’ sentient mind conducive to the appearance of these specific forms. The purpose for this fabrication was to prove that fish, insects, birds and animals were evolving in themselves and by themselves without any influence and impact of anyone anywhere. You see, Peter, in the moment you would assume that all these non-sentient life forms are in some way dependent on someone sentient, you would instantly refute the possibility of these life forms of developing on their own. In that case, you would have to conclude that life doesn’t appear in itself and by itself, without anyone’s input or initiation, but it is a product of some very intricate design by the sentient mind.

Such conclusions would defeat the purpose for which the pseudo-creators wanted to activate the negative state and to fabricate typical humans. For them it was vital to prove that sentient life develops from non- sentient life forms in an evolutionary manner and not the other way around: All non-sentient life forms are the product and reflection of the activities of the sentient mind, in this case, of My Absolute Sentient Mind.

Once again, here you have the proverbial upside-down position that was needed to be established in order for the negative state to come to its adverse fruition. In other words, if, in the positive state everything is determined and is originated in the activities of the sentient mind, and in an absolute sense in the activities of My Absolute Sentient Mind, in that case, in the pseudo-life of the negative state and in its end product — human life, everything needs to be set up in such a manner so as to give an irrefutable impression, based on the scientifically observable facts, that nothing is dependent on the activities of the sentient mind but it has its own independent life. And not only that but that the sentient mind of humans developed from lower life forms, in actuality from that proverbial one organic cell, so conveniently placed in the ocean of planet Zero and influenced by the pseudo-creators, and not the other way around.

Of course, as you know from the geological and paleontological history of planet Zero, many failures occurred in this so-called evolutionary process. We are not going to go into the nature of these failures because the purpose of this discourse is different. What we are doing here is building a foundation on which a most proper and appropriate answer can be given to your question, Peter, and how it all relates to the present state of affairs.

The deception and self-deception of the pseudo-creators in this setup is obvious. First of all, they were the ones who placed that one living cell in the primordial ocean on this planet. Secondly, that cell was taken from the animal forms which existed as projections of the sentient mind on the physical planet Earth. Thirdly, the origin of that particular living cell, as well as other cells in being and existence, initially was created from My Absolute Ideas for the establishment of sentient life forms. Fourthly, the already established sentient entities were already producing their own ideas of various life forms as reflections of the unique and specific processes of their mentation, contained in their thoughts, emotions, feelings, thinking, willing, affections, etc. So, no matter which way you look at the whole setup of the pseudo-creators, no matter how much there is on your planet of an appearance that all non-sentient life forms are independent of the sentient mind, in their ultimate function, they all depend on the activities of the sentient mind and, in an absolute sense, on the activities of My Absolute Sentient Mind.

This dependency factor can be proven on the type of animal life forms that exist on your planet and how the animals respond to humans as a result of humans’ processes of mentation. As you know, in the positive state all sentient entities have and project only positive, kind, gentle and loving, caring and considerate thoughts, emotions, feelings, affections and everything else positive and good, contained in their spirit and soul. The corresponding factors of these traits and characteristics can only reflect what they are and what they project. For that reason, the animal forms in the positive state, for the purpose of feedback, appear as beautiful, gentle, kind and positive in general.

On the other hand, in the negative state and in human life on planet Zero the situation is different. The animals there are correspondences and reflections of the mental processes which are, in the majority of cases, negative, violent, hateful, predatory, raw, inconsiderate, impatient, fierce, cowardly, territorial, selfish, greedy, insensitive, etc. On the other hand, My influence and the presence of My representatives and others of My people on planet Zero, makes it possible that some animal life forms resemble those that appear in the positive state. The reason we are saying they resemble and not that they are as such, is because on planet Zero the overwhelming presence and condensation of the negative state has a negative effect also on these types of animals. For that reason, these animals are not exactly as they appear in the positive state. Even in their case, some of the above described negative characteristics, under certain circumstances, very often are present in their behavior. This is an obvious reflection of the human mentality, which could exhibit at different times, or sometimes even at the same time, both positive and negative thoughts, feelings, emotions, affections, etc.

As you see from these examples, regardless of the appearances that tell you that animals on your planet have their own independent life, their function, as well as the possibility that they exist at all, is dependent on the presence of humans and their spiritual, mental, physical and any other types of activities. So, in evaluating the factor of the possibilities that your animals have independent intelligence, rationality, sensitivity, feelings or whatever so typical of human nature, or of the sentient mind in general, and that they are able, in themselves and by themselves, to respond to some types of needs that humans have, it is necessary to realize that to what they respond does not stem from their internal abilities to do so, but from the projection of the sentient mind and expectations that humans put into them. From ideas of the possible services to provide to humans and other sentient entities, animal instincts were formed which make it possible for the animals to respond to environmental cues and to the projections of human mental processes. Because of that it appears as though animals have some rudimentary, or even more developed mental faculties similar to the sentient mind. While in the reality of this setup, they are a reflection and correspondence of the sentient mental faculties which maintain those observable abilities in animals.

So, you would be advised not to ascribe to the animals something that they don’t have. In your scientific terms it is called anthropomorphization of animals, meaning ascribing to animals human mental or any other characteristics. Because of the nature of their instincts, some animals can be trained to respond to human mental and physical conditions and become a warning beacon for prevention of such conditions. Because of their instinctual drive and sensitivity for inputs that come from their human and geographical environment, from the energies which immediately precede any unusual events in it, they are able to react to those events in a protective manner. This reaction is characterized by humans as premonition and foresight. However, in the reality of this condition, it is not something inherent in the animals in itself and by itself, but it is an instinctual element in them which allows them to respond to those energies that precede before any event takes place. Thus, once again, they respond to external cues and not to the internal dispositions that would make them able to evaluate and assess the situation on their own.

In the human conceptualization of the factors described above about the original purpose for which animal life forms appeared, this purpose was lost. In fact, it was purposefully made so by the pseudo-creators so that humans would have no way of arriving at these conclusions about animal life forms. On one hand, for humans, it was necessary to assume that animals have their own life, independent of the sentient mind’s mental activities; and on the other hand, by seeing and experiencing how animals behave and act, humans would assume that in some ways, for some reasons they evolved from the animals in an evolutionary manner without any involvement of any Intelligence or Spiritual Entity who planned out to the minutest details all and everything by which sentient life came to its fruition. In this sense, regardless of how positive or beneficial animals seem to be for humans, their function and purpose on this planet is to serve in the hands of the negative state so that they may refute the existence of anything spiritual or independent of the evolutional and natural forces.

However, there is another point to this issue. This issue relates to household pets, to which humans are attached so much, rather than to all animals in general. The issue here is an interdependency factor. By adopting certain types of animals into their households, taking them away from their specific environments, humans made their pets dependent on them. At the same time, by the factor of their own attachments to their pets, humans became dependent on their pets as well. In doing so, humans reinforced their negative tendency to depend on the fulfillment of their emotional needs, or whatever needs they have, on something external, outside of them, in this case, on their pets. Thus, as you see from this setup, the function of pets in this particular respect, from the position of the negative state, is to keep humans in a state of dependency on external factors and not on their inner spiritual factors. Once they become used to the fact that their emotional needs, or whatever needs, are being fulfilled by someone or something from without, in this case by their pets, they atrophy their ability of inner, independent self-reliance and by that factor, they close the way to their internals where everything exists and is available for their life needs, whatever they may be, so that it could be fulfilled in the most appropriate and needed manner.

This situation clearly indicates that the nature of human life is to always seek out all forms of dependency on someone or something else. In the hands of the negative state, animals, and especially household pets, serve this purpose well.

So, what kind of use do animals serve in human life? A different use is served by animals as such and by household pets. The animals on planet Zero are a concrete illustration and demonstration of the external manifestation of various human affections, emotions, feelings and the nature of the negative state and the human mind in general, giving an important input to everyone else what kinds of thoughts, feelings, emotions, affections or lifestyle in general not ever to choose. At the same time, they clearly illustrate the consequences of such negative and unhealthy characteristics on the environment in which humans and creatures of the negative state reside and what the feedback for their producers is. The negative mental projections, which make life of animals possible in this respect, produce negative feedback to those who project them, reinforcing their negativity and compounding their mental and any other problems. If you receive negative feedback from your own negative projections — after all, no other type of feedback is possible than negative in such a case — your negativity is compounded and by that factor, all your problems are reinforced and compounded as well. This accursed self-feeding loop of the negative state in human life is a good example of how life should never be conceived, experienced, practiced or lived. And in this sense, because animals on planet Zero by their own behavior and actions reflect this situation, their use is in the illustration and demonstration of this factor.

Is there anything positive in animals’ function on planet Zero? Yes and no. The ‘yes’ portion of this answer is contained in the fact that animals contribute, in some way or other, for the ecological balance of the planetary environment in which human life can and may thrive. Thus, they provide something by which humans are able to illustrate the nature of their human life. Moreover, some animals serve as food for human consumption in order to provide necessary energies for their bodies in which their spirit and soul can manifest their life. The ‘no’ portion of this answer is in the fact, that human life is founded on the principles of the negative state. Thus, anything that contributes to the proper manifestation of human life, becomes a contributory factor for maintenance of the negative state.

As far as domestic or household pets are concerned, apart from some well-trained dogs that provide health types of services for their masters (for blind people, for mentally, physically and otherwise handicapped humans and for similar conditions), their use is in the fact of their showing the consequences of interdependency and how complicated human life can be and what such dependency on external factors leads to and what it creates for humans in their own personal life. Up to this point, from the position of the positive state, keeping pets in human habitats for any other reasons but to be attached to them or just to have them or to play with them, has been considered a harmless nuisance. However, in the moment their attachment to their pets becomes a habit to the point of full dependency on them, so that they feel that they cannot live or be without them, in such a case, it is no longer a harmless nuisance but a full-fledged dominance of the negative state. Don’t forget one important fact: On planet Zero, especially at the present time, all animals, and especially pets, can become a potent tool in the hands of the forces of the negative state in order to adversely influence and manipulate humans and to make their life complicated. No matter how much the owners of their pets enjoy them, no matter how much they outwardly serve their masters, by some kind of pleasurable or any other seemingly positive purpose, they are of the negative state and therefore, through them the forces of the negative state can use them for their own purposes.

Another illustrative and demonstrative purpose for which domestic or household pets are permitted to be kept by humans, is to reflect on concrete examples that the negative state, in order to have any opportunity or chance to take hold in its own pseudo-being and pseudo- existence, needs to be loved and cared for. This factor clearly illustrates and demonstrates one very crucial and important principle: Nothing can live, be alive, function and manifest its nature unless it is loved and cared for by the sentient mind. In order to illustrate and demonstrate this principle, some sentient entities, as you know, Peter, also agreed by their own free will and choice, to love and take care of the negative state, as well as of all forms of its pseudo-life’s manifestation. Without such love and care, the negative state, as well as any state or life at all, would have no chance whatsoever to come to its own adverse fruition and to establish itself in the consciousness of sentient entities, becoming thus, its own independent pseudo-reality which, for all practical purposes, appears to itself to be as its own true reality. The way humans love and care for their pets, which pets, in the vast majority of cases, have solely negative correspondences, illustrate and demonstrate this love and care for the negative state very well. In this illustration and demonstration is the use which pets provide for the entire Creation and pseudo-creation.

As far as My representatives on planet Zero are concerned, and their particular preoccupation with their pets, their situation could become volatile and dangerous in a sense that, if no other recourse is available to the renegades to adversely influence or manipulate them or make their lives miserable, they will use their pets to get to them. This has become an important factor as of recently. As you remember, Peter, upon your arrival in Moscow, Russia, you were told that a new milestone was established and something entirely different was put into motion. It entirely changes the mode of operation of everyone but particularly of the renegades. Under this condition, the function of animals and pets has also changed. And because, in some ways, these animals and pets are their creatures, they will be utilized by the renegades to get to you and to cause you some type of complications or interference.

As you remember, you were told that your energies were very much needed in your collaborative work with the members of the New Universe and with the pseudo-creators. Because the forces of the negative state are aware that your energies are needed for this important work, they will try to sidetrack you by any means in order to engage you in some useless and futile activities, which would deplete your energies, making them unavailable for anything else. Your pets will serve this purpose very well. Just look how much preoccupation, time, effort, various resources, money, and many other things are spent on your pets. All that requires your energies. By being engaged in such activities with your pets, your energies are uselessly wasted. They are not going into your work for Me in your collaborative effort with the members of the New Universe and the pseudo-creators. Also, as you remember, Peter, whenever you talk with someone who has pets, that talk inadvertently is turned to talking about their pets, about how cute they are, how delightful they are, how lovable they are and how they are considered to be their babies or children. Such talk also can be considered a crafty deterrent, set up by the negative state, from more important issues. They are a waste of precious energies and time which could be spent in a much more productive and useful manner. In telephone conversations for example, when people who visit you call their homes, one of the first inquiries they make is: How is my baby pet? They spend considerable time just talking about their pets as if nothing more important in their lives exists than their pets. And this is the trap of the negative state which has an adverse influence also on My representatives who have such pets. Unfortunately, they are not consciously aware that their attachment to their pets is an effective tool in the hands of the negative state, and now particularly in the hands of the renegades, to covertly influence their lives, by robbing them of their vital energies that need to go into their collaborative effort with the members of the New Universe and with the pseudo-creators. In some ways, you can conceive their love and care for their pets, as love and care for the negative state. And this is a spiritually very dangerous aspect of such love and care.

Now, as you know, Peter, I am not in the business of ordering or commanding anyone what to do, how to do it, how to be, what to have or what not to have. Everyone of you can be, or do, or have anything you want. However, don’t forget about your priorities. Also, don’t forget about the human tendency to justify their own preferences, in this case, why they need to have pets. Because you were asking for My advice, in this respect, due to the currently existing spiritual situation, and what everything it entails and what your position and purpose is, it would be much more beneficial and better for you and for all of us, if you would relinquish your desire to have such pets; or at least, not to have any more pets, after the ones that you currently have, expire by the natural course of their pseudo-life (unless of course, you have some serious medical or mental condition which would justify having them). This advice is for your own protection and safety. This is not an order or command. I just want you to know that you have absolutely no idea what the phase of life you have entered as of recently means and signifies. In this phase also, animals and your pets will be utilized for the purpose of impeding and interfering with your work for Me and for robbing you of your precious energies that are needed for this work more than ever before. Consider this, and make your own choices. However, don’t complain about any consequences of such choices. And this is all that needs to be said about this issue at this time.

Peter: Thank You very much for this extensive elaboration. Many readers of this particular Dialog will probably not like what is being conveyed in it regarding their pets. I am very much afraid that they will accuse me of projecting my own prejudices and biases that I have about animals and especially pets. It is possible that they will think that it is not You who were saying all these things but my own personal inventions.

The Lord Jesus Christ: Well, Peter, unfortunately, such accusations or whatever are sometimes inevitable. How else can you justify your own needs to have pets, or whatever else, but by considering anything which contradicts these needs or their attachments as false and, in this particular case, as not coming from Me? As you know, one of the major reasons that we have been having this dialoging, was to trigger in their readers awareness of various issues that they need to work on or to make appropriate choices. Obviously, if someone who has pets will be offended by our statements in this respect, then it only means that such a person has serious problems that he/she needs to work on — of course, if he/she chooses to do so by his/her own free will and choice. These Dialogs, and what they contain, can be considered as giving everyone who reads them an opportunity to amend their ways, to correct or remove their problems — should they find and recognize that they have them. Because you are, after all, humans, even if you are My representatives, as humans in your nature, you do have problems and everything so specifically contained in human nature. That nature is easily influenced by the negative state. In the form of these Dialogs, and what they contain, you are given a tool for becoming aware of such possible problems with the opportunity to amend them. Whether you take or not take this opportunity, depends solely upon you. Neither I nor anyone else in the positive state will judge you for whatever choice you will make in this respect. You do whatever feels right for you. However, don’t forget about the consequences of doing such.

Peter: Thank You for this reminder. Is there anything else today that You would like to comment on?

The Lord Jesus Christ: One brief comment about the tragedy that happened two days ago in Minsk, Belarus. In this tragedy, 54 or more, mostly young people perished by stomping each other in a panic during their massive (several thousands of them) gathering to celebrate Beer Day (drinking beer). As you know, suddenly, almost out of nowhere, a dark cloud appeared over the square of their gathering and for a few minutes showered upon them torrential rain and hail. In the panicky effort to escape it, they stomped each other to death. Although such phenomena do occur in massive gatherings during sporting events, this one was unique in that, the cloud in question appeared only over the square where they gathered and nowhere else — as if someone was carefully planning for this tragedy to happen. I can assure you, Peter, that it was planned to happen that way. For your information, a certain event had taken place at that time in one of the pseudo-dimensions of the renegades — a dimension that has a corresponding connection to the city of Minsk, Belarus, — in the process of their internal strife. During this strife, a violent outburst happened against one of their groups which was trying to split from the others and to establish its own independence. As a result, it was wiped out and locked up in one of their deep Hells. In order to replenish the state to which that group corresponded or which it occupied, it was necessary to orchestrate a disaster during which several people of young blood would perish and take the place of the ones who were wiped out and locked up in the Hells. As you noticed, the celebration was of a negative nature because it intended to celebrate something that has no positive connotation — alcohol. Hence a reward of the negative nature in the form of its retribution.

Also, that event is another form of illustration and demonstration of the putrid nature of mass gatherings which have no positive connotation whatsoever, but are wild, unruly, insane, unpredictable and totally irrational — the typical nature and lifestyle of the negative state. And this is all that I wanted to say about this event at this time. There is more to this tragedy than that but it is premature to reveal. This has been a very long Dialog, Peter. Unless otherwise indicated, I would suggest taking a few days break from our dialoging. Go in peace, Peter, and enjoy your stay with Lyudmila and Victor in Moscow, Russia.

Peter: Thank You very, very much for Your contributions in these matters.

Source: DIALOGUES WITH THE LORD JESUS ​​CHRIST PART 1.

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